Trent said - "I do have a problem with non-profits that want to get everything for free at the expensive of local businesses." Most business people I know would jump at the chance to get anything needed for their operation at a reduced rate or free and would not suffer pangs of conscience if they succeded. The same is true for non-profits. It's only good business practice to try to reduce your expenses whenever & wherever possible. Local businesses, being businesses, always have the option of saying no, and most will do so when they feel a request is inappropriate or ill-timed from their particular viewpoint. But don't forget that all businesses, non-profit & for-profit, benefit from public exposure of their good deeds and this is what offsets the "expense" Trent mentions. Ron Twellman, Collections Manager EAA AirVenture Museum P.O. Box 3065 Oshkosh, WI 54903-3065 920-426-5917 -----Original Message----- From: Trent Litchfield [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Why Buy the Shovels? Not to beat a dead horse! I think you guys have missed the point. The original post wanted to know where to get the shovels not how to finance their purchase. There were many good suggestions on how to get the shovels that were being requested. Then, in a spirit that I find all too common in the non-profit world, some said hey why buy shovels when you can get them for free. I do not have a problem with non-profits asking for help when it is needed. I do have a problem with non-profits that want to get everything for free at the expensive of local businesses. ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).