-2474 >Text Messaging: [log in to unmask] >Snail mail: P.O. Box 2474, Palm Beach, Florida 33480-2474 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Boylan P <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 9:37 AM >Subject: Re: CAPS or no caps > > >> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, thegentry.com project wrote: >> >> > the lower case typing online is basically related to the traditional >> > computer standard. it is used by those of us who have been around >computers >> > from the get go. the only people hung up on offline ways of typing are >> > librarians and those who gained access to the internet/computers later >in >> > life. it has nothing to do with disabilities. >> >> ==============>> >> James: >> >> Surely you have this the wrong way round? The old computer '60s and >> '70s mainframe computer standard was surely CAPITALS only not all lower >> case? Remember very well the sensation that the arrival of the first >> stand-alone computers running under CP/M or BASIC produced when they >> started to appear in the eatl to mid '70s because there was the typewriter >> shift key at last. >> >> More seriously, anyone who wants to write in one case only should use >> capitals - which are much more readable than all lower case/ >> >> >> Patrick Boylan >> >> ========================================================>> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message >to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" >(without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to >[log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 18:41:40 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Mark Fowle <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: How do you get your interactives Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="SMXXATTPMQcYUeKQcJHaAWOOcCJPGH"; charset="iso-8859-1" Chuck, I'm also replying to the list because there may be others interested in our Designer's Guide. We provide interactive electronics for use in museum exhibit as well as tradeshow displays. We have an Exhibit Designer's Guide to Interactive Electronics which may be of interest to you. You can get a free copy of the Designer's Guide by filling out the form on our website. Click on the link below and go the the "more info" section. To answer your specific questions: How do you work with your clients? - How involved is the client in the design process? Of course it depends on project and the client and how involved they want to be. There are some projects that the client has worked out, they send us the description and we send them the electronics ready for installation in the exhibit. Most projects we are quite involved with working with the client from beginning to end. We find that it works best when the client outlines in broad strokes what it is that they are trying to accomplish before it is a real project. We then discuss it with them and give them suggestions on how make less expensive, simpler, more effective, etc. How do you estimate how long it will take to create a brand-new component? Generally, when it comes to time we get a call from a client and they say this is what we're need and we here's when we need it. Can you do it? Obviously, a reasonable lead-time is preferable. We currently have three week minimum lead-time for new projects. How do you determine what you charge your clients? Since almost all of our work is custom we estimate on project by project basis. However, we take a modular approach to interactive electronics. This means we have a variety of modules which we combine and program for each specific application. This allows use to keep the cost down and still be flexible. We start with an estimate and turn it into a quote once the specification are nailed down, if necessary What about multimedia--do you do it yourselves or farm it out? We have the capability of producing most of our own media. However, there are times that it make sense to "farm it out". It all depends on the project, the budget, and the needs of the client. Hope this helps. -Mark- * Mark Fowle, General Manager * INNOVA Applied Technology * 2841 East 19th Street * Signal Hill, CA 90804 * Email: [log in to unmask] * http://www.INNOVA-AT.com/ * Phone: (800) 417-9060 * Fax: (800) 773-7694 * Providers of Interactive Solutions * -----Original Message----- From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> To: Recipients of ISEN-ASTC-L digests <[log in to unmask]> Date: Friday, March 17, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: ISEN-ASTC-L Digest - 16 Mar 2000 to 17 Mar 2000 (#2000-69) I've got a bunch of questions about the design process for interactives. We're trying to refine our process, and I'd love to hear how others get what they need. What are the bottlenecks and pitfalls? Got any war stories or success stories? If you're a museum or science center, do you buy interactives from an exhibit company, develop your own interactive components in-house, or some combination of the two? What sort of process do you use to determine the need for a new interactive? How is the thing defined, developed, designed, produced, tested, and evaluated? Who's involved in the process, and what skills do you think are necessary? If you're in the business of selling interactives, how do you work with your clients? How involved is the client in the design process? How do you estimate how long it will take to create a brand-new component? How do you determine what you charge your clients? What about multimedia--do you do it yourselves or farm it out? Please reply to me off-list, and please pardon the cross postings. Chuck Stout ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:19:42 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Redcliffe Plantation State Park <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: RURAL TEXTILE MUSEUM IN INDIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Swasti, for interactives I might suggest having some material to touch(good for sight impaired visitors) or having the opportunity to learn how to work with the fabric and create your own piece. -----Original Message----- From: swasti singh [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 7:43 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: RURAL TEXTILE MUSEUM IN INDIA Hello, We would like to introduce ourselves as two design graduates( industrial and textile from National Institute of Design , Ahmedabad)doing a museum project for SEWA- Self Employed Women's Association in Ahmedabad, India. The Museum is mainly to serve the textile craft center located in one of the villages. Museum will be of old embroidered textile pieces made by the women of the local communities. They will be the main users because the museum has to serve to revive old embroidery practices, so that the improved work fetches more income for them. We are interested to know if you know of any such rural museum in any other part of the world and their success in it. Can you suggest interactive sort of activities at the museum site in order to make the museum beneficial for the local communities. We are also keen on knowing about certain factors like current preservation techniques for textiles. We will be glad to be suggested of books, websites and experts regarding the above queries. Thanking you, Suranjana Sen, Swasti Singh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:44:38 PST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jerrie Clarke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: (Caps) So you can please some of the people ........ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This strain of conversation just goes to show we are all different in our attitudes -- Thank goodness or we'd have nothing to learn from each other. I for one, though I'm not sure what this has to do with the quality of my managing a collection, am irritated by all caps and have no problem with all lower case even though I choose to use both. I do have a problem with name calling. Disagreeing, yes, but name calling seems a little unprofessional. I wonder if we were in the same room having some of these discussions would we be so cruel? One reason I stayed in this profession is because I found most people to be very kind and helpful as I was learning my trade. Also since we're on the subject. I would prefer people not request answers to queries off-line. I would like at least some of the answers to appear for my benefit as well. I've learned alot from the questions and answers posted here. Enough. Long responses also lose my attention. Thanks for sharing. Jerrie Jerrie Clarke Curator of Collections Valdez Museum http://www.alaska.net/~vldzmuse/index.html >From: Boylan P <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: CAPS or no caps >Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:37:26 +0000 > > >James: > >Surely you have this the wrong way round? The old computer '60s and >'70s mainframe computer standard was surely CAPITALS only not all lower >case? Remember very well the sensation that the arrival of the first >stand-alone computers running under CP/M or BASIC produced when they >started to appear in the eatl to mid '70s because there was the typewriter >shift key at last. > >More seriously, anyone who wants to write in one case only should use >capitals - which are much more readable than all lower case/ > > >Patrick Boylan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:20:21 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Steve Frevert <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Policy on historic structure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Audra, The situation you describe brings up a number of questions. First, who actually owns the museum structure, and are they also the ones responsible for maintaining it? If the municipality is the owner, then something in your agreement to operate the museum should spell out who is responsible for what. If this is still unclear, perhaps a good approach would be to arrange a meeting or task force with representatives from both the municipality and museum, with the purpose of clarifying the issue of site use. If the museum body drafts a policy regarding exterior use and alteration but doesn't actually own the building, the municipality isn't necessarily bound to follow that policy. Educating the city staff and administration might be the most tactful way to prevent future harm to the historic structure. YOU know the building is an artifact and a resource, and now the goal should be to get the city to see it in the same light. Best of luck! Steve Frevert ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:42:33 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Laura Petznick <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: job help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Further to Evan Riter's comments, I wonder if a doctorate is even enough?! Laura Petznick, Ph.D. ------Original Message------ From: Evan Riter <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: March 17, 2000 12:58:03 AM GMT Subject: Re: job help A lot of what you say has merit, however if you want to work in the museum field you should be aware that employers looking for a candidate have been known to throw away applications without even looking at them because of lack of a degree. It is educational inflation. It is getting to the point where even a MFA is not enough. A lot of jobs have a prerequisite of a doctorate. I am not saying this is necessarily a good thing, just reality. Snowcat369 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:00:18 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sharon Koomler <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: job help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know this is a tough subject. It has to do with degrees, experience, the quirks of a particular museum, the last employee's characteristics (good or bad), and the whims of the person who reviews applications. As I look at applications for potential interns and support staff, I look at relevant experience, coursework, and personal interests. I have hired staff with BA, MA, and have taken both undergraduate and graduate interns. I have chosen not to consider applicants without relevenat experience or coursework but a good interview has changed my mind in some cases. Usually degree is not the primary consideration. I tell all my interns that they should consider every internship and term as a volunteer as professional experience. You can write your resume and experience to fit many job descriptions. Apply for jobs you are interested in and can get excited about. The hardest thing for an employer to do is interview someone who doesn't ask questions, want to look under a sheet (curatorial storage areas), or who seems afraid to offer an opinion. Visit websites of the institutions you are interested in. As I began my museum career, I turned a successful internship into a job. It was a unique opportunity, but I first interned in the curatorial dept (at a museum that didn't have a curator, educator -- well, actually the only full time staff person was the director) but during the second semester (I liked the place) I asked if I could offer school programs. (I had assisted with some at another museum in the same community so had a good sense of what I was in for.) The first program I offered was wildly successful so I was able to convince the director that I should offer another. Long story short, they realized I was going to be able to earn my keep, so to speak, and hired me after I graduated. Volunteering and internships PAY OFF! There are jobs. Don't get discouraged. Be persistant. Go to regional museum meetings and interview and network. Good luck. Sharon Duane Koomler Curator of Collections Hancock Shaker Village Pittsfield, MA ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:41:35 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Linda J Chatfield <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: job help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More on that- I have a studio BFA from an excellent school but no course was provided in the basics of small business or marketing my work--still struggling w/ that. I drifted gradually to history museum field which I love, but even with 2 Exec Director positions on the resume, its the masters that the "powers" now want to see. I'm looking for an independent study program in history or folklore. Any names? Please reply online or off-- Linda [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: thegentry.com project <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 12:06 PM Subject: Re: job help > i agree with deb on this 100%. its a powerful issue to me as i feel far too > much emphasis has been placed on masters degrees (and degrees in general for > the arts.) i think of the very best, most talented artists and curators of > art history - how many have been hung up on their MFA? or even had/have an > MFA? how many people who are/have done extraordinary things in the arts in > general have any degree? not that many. > > i went to so-called 'famous' schools and had a 4.0GPA (which was the easiest > thing in the world to achieve) but found most of my arts classes, undergrad > and otherwise, to be a complete waste of my time, boring as can be, under > instructors who were basically failed artists. when it comes to the arts i > believe 'those who can do..those who cant teach." the entire college system > to me can be a solid manipulation, and a costly one at that which ultimately > benefits? the schools the most. administrators and executives at top schools > are taking home larger salaries than ever yet their multi-degree'd grads > can't find work! that is pathetic. making students believe that they 'have > to have' this or that degree is a joke. students are leaving college very > deep in debt, when i hear of some nearing six figures! it is really > shocking. do they think that is every going to pay off? at that rate they > wont have to wait years for a museum job. they'll be working three jobs just > to pay back the loans. > > most people i know who are doing the most advanced creative work in the arts > are college drop outs. so yes deb you are right. there is no excuse. > education and job help comes in many forms; and with technology today is > available via many sources often for free. > > j > > > james linza > managing director > > thegentry.com project for contemporary art: > Homepage: http://www.thegentry.com > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > Telephone: 561/301-2474 > Text Messaging: [log in to unmask] > Snail mail: P.O. Box 2474, Palm Beach, Florida 33480-2474 > > thegentry.com project for contemporary art is an > Internet based e-commerce site that sustains > programming in visual arts, poetry, arts news > and education, and critical discourse. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: job help > > > > Standard response to people who are trying to get into the museum-field: > You > > will be competing with people who have a master's and years of experience > for > > entry-level jobs. You'll find something eventually but be prepared to look > > for months, even years at a time. > > > > In a message dated 3/16/00 6:37:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > I can't find any design-related jobs that don't require extensive > > > computer training (which I lack because of the philosophy behind a > liberal > > > arts education). > > > > That is BS. I have a "liberal studies" theater degree and now work doing > > web-pages, CD-ROMs and other "computer stuff". Get access to the software > and > > learn it. Photoshop isn't that hard to pick up either. Front Page is easy > > and there are plenty of good books on every computer program out there. > > Community colleges also have cheap courses on software packages as well. > > > > Deb > > > > ========================================================> > Important Subscriber Information: > > > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" > (without the quotes). > > > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff > Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:46:02 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Socrates <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Travel Reimbursement Ross! Thanks for the clarification. Also, regarding the caps dialog, it doesn't matter to me how someone writes as long that it is understandable. i couldn't help but sense the smug superiority from the capless writer about being there on the get go of the computer age For some of us, being polite is of the utmost importance in being able to diplomatically bring an argument to bear. I think I shall be capful instead of capless. O OSA RNLB -----Original Message----- From: Ross Weeks <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Saturday, March 18, 2000 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Travel Reimbursement >Basically, for those responsible for non-profit, non-governmental museums, >the federal reimbursement rate has never really mattered. For the smallest >of us, the governing board in some cases establishes the rate based on what >prevails in the community. In this community, businesses use a 20 cents/mile >rate. I was hoping to find evidence that there were non-profits adding 5 >cents or so to their existing rate, in view of the inflated price of >gasoline. (The IRS requires that any reimbursement in excess of 32.5 cents >be counted as income for one's tax purposes. If you use your vehicle for >charitable purposes, you can take 14 cents a mile as a charitable >deduction -- that being the estimated cost of the gasoline itself, as per >the IRS.) >----- Original Message ----- >From: Olivia Anastasiadis <[log in to unmask]> > >> The general understanding is that IRS changes the rules for mileage >> reimbursal each year; we have a finance guy who always makes sure this is >> updated via memo to all of us roadsters. This year it's supposed to be >> $0.325; last year it was $0.315. A few years back it was about 29 cents. >> It is the responsibility of your accounting/finance person to set this >> straight each year. That's my understanding. > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:17:26 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Theresa McNichol <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Policy on historic structure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Audra, Your question brought back memories to say the least. I was director of an historic house structure which was also municipally governed. Trying to get the city to move on getting the bids for exterior painting was one of the many challenges of my tenure, along with HVAC headaches, etc. Steve's advice is very wise. Education is what it will take and it oftentimes needs to be a well-thought out process moving from point A to B to C and so on. Where is your instittution in the accredidation process? Have you done a CAP assessment? This is beneficial because it involves the board, the city and the museum staff. Is there an historic preservation officer or architect with the city that you can involve and partner with, who could be an advocate? When we were re-installing the permanent collection, the designer advised cartpeting for the galleries, which was needed for stabilization of the cases which held porcelains. It also was needed to cut down the noise factor and for students to be able to sit on the floor for educational purposes. The city fought it vehemently because it was felt the wood floors should not be covered up. The museum brought on a Victorian architecture consultant who advised that floors of that period were not intended to be exposed, but be covered. Even with the report it was not smooth going. So a "compromise" was decided: carpet one gallery and not another. But just think of the expense when some day they decide that carpteting is needed afterall and all the cases have to be emptied, move professionally from the rooms and the entire exhibit reinstalled. Good luck! Terri McNichol Ren Associates >If the museum body drafts a policy regarding exterior use and alteration but doesn't actually own the building, the municipality isn't necessarily bound to follow that policy. Educating the city staff and administration might be the most tactful way to prevent future harm to the historic structure. YOU know the building is an artifact and a resource, and now the goal should be to get the city to see it in the same light. > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:43:56 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ilana Klamka <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: job help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sharon the positive note about persistance and interest was very welcome! thank you -ilana ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:00:47 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Linda Bitley <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Fw: Policy on historic structure Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_9EC77D41.22432FB0" --=_9EC77D41.22432FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I would seem to me that maintaining your historic structure is a part of the fiduciary responsibility of its governing body. Since that is ultimately the municipality that owns it, they seem to be damaging the long-range structural integrity of an historic structure for a very minor and short term gain (Christmas decorations). To prevent further deterioration, they are also going to have to repair the damage that's already been done. Repairing damage that they caused or allowing the structure to deteriorate due to a lack of care doesn't seem very financially or politically prudent. If your museum has a governing board of its own, then its members are individually and collectively responsible for the maintenance and care of the building as both the site of your museum and an historic artifact in its own right. I don't think they are going to like taking responsibility for detimental actions they had nothing to do with once they are aware that they have it whether they want it or not. Nobody likes to carry the can for somebody else's mistakes. I had an occasion some years ago to protest the improper use of one of our historic house museums for a fund-raising event. I was advised by a board member who was also a museum professional to develop a short but pointed written argument on why this action was contrary to both ethical museum practice and responsible fiduciary action by our board. Since accusing people doesn't win you friends or converts, she suggest that I take the tack of providing this information in order to educate those on the board who were not museum professionals and therefore were probably not aware of these ramifications. At her advice, I also quoted sections from several professional lcodes of ethics including those of AAM and AASLH. The latter specifically mentions historic structures in the section on collections. If you need some more ammunition and haven't already done so, I suggest you check out Marie Malaro's books, A Legal Primer on Managing Museum Collections and Museum Governance: Mission, Ethics, Policy. In the "Primer" she sights many legal cases that speak to a number trustee stewardship issues. "Governance" is directed specifically toward governing authorities. In fact, Part 1 is entitled Lessons for Board Members. You can get both via the AAM Bookstore. I still had to go thru with the planned event, but was able to negotiate some modifications to it to reduce the threat to the structure and its contents. Other staff and I later negotiated new procedures that significantly reduced the likelihood that this would happen again. Ultimately the official designation of the historic structures as a collection artifact in its own right was incorporated into the board approved collection management policies along with a staff/trustee monitoring process. Good luck with your problem. Hope this info helps. Linda PS: By the way, I suggest you also start working now to develop exterior Christmas decorations (free-standing ??) for your museum that fit in with the city's plans, but are safe for your structure. Since your decorations will be different, maybe your museum could be a visual as well as a community focal point rather than just another structure. This may help to head off future problems while putting you in a more cooperative position than if you just said NO. >>> Audra Oliver <[log in to unmask]> 03/18/00 11:10AM >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Audra Oliver To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 1:06 AM Subject: Fw: Policy on historic structure ----- Original Message ----- From: Audra Oliver To: Museum L Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:56 AM Subject: Policy on historic structure To rectify a problem, I am developing written policy restricting alterations and "use" of a historic building exterior. We are a municipal museum housed in a historic building. We regard the building as an artifact. This winter "the city," without consulting with museum staff, hung Christmas decorations in a manner that caused serious damage to the historic sandstone building. Given our severe climate (especially), we should hang nothing on the building unless we wish to damage it, much less attach the items with eyebolts in sandstone. To avoid reinventing the wheel and to perhaps cover a few more bases, I am seeking other museums' policy addressing such issues as well as alterations to the building. Our present thoughts lie in requiring that nothing be hung from or attached to the building; that any proposed alterations to the building exterior pass through staff, collections committee, and board before being approved. I welcome copies of policy as well as thoughts on the topic. You may respond to me off line at [log in to unmask] or post on line as you wish. Thanks! Audra Oliver Linda Bitley Interim Registrar Atlanta History Center 130 West Paces Ferry Road, NW Atlanta, GA 30305-1366 T: 404/814-4053 F: 404/814-2041 E: [log in to unmask] W: atlantahistory.net --=_9EC77D41.22432FB0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Linda Bitley.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Linda Bitley EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:LBitley X-GWUSERID:LBitley ORG:;Exhibitions & Collections N:Bitley;Linda END:VCARD --=_9EC77D41.22432FB0-- ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Currently an associate professor, she joined the faculty at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill in 1989. Previously, she taught at the University of Maryland. Joining her on the faculty will be distinguished working professionals knowledgeable in particular areas of archival practice. The two week, intensive program will feature site visits of major repositories, and a diverse curriculum, which includes development of the profession, manuscripts acquisition, reference and access, automation, arrangement and description, archives and the law, electronic records, preservation, outreach, are of photographs, appraisal, and records management. Tuition for the two week program is $550 and includes a selection of archival publications. Housing and meal plans are available at additional cost. Enrollment is limited. The application deadline is April 15, 2000. For an on-line version of the application and more information, please see the website for the Society of California Archivists and click on “Western Archives Institute” at the address below: http://dlis.gseis.ucla.edu/society_of_california_archivists For additional information and a mailed version of the application package contact: Administrator, Western Archives Institute 1020 O St. Sacramento CA 95814 Telephone: (916) 653-7715 Fax: (916) 653-7134 E-mail: [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:20:08 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kerri Clavette <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 To anyone that can help- I am fairly new to the world of museums. I have a degree in Anthropology and am looking to find a job in a museum. Does anyone have any suggestions, words of wisdom, or emplyment informations to help me. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. Please respond on or off-list to [log in to unmask] Kerri ____________________________________________________________________ For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com ____________________________________________________________________ ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:49:17 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Janice Morrill <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: museum job search Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This listserv has had quite a number of posts addressing this lately...... very instructive, with lots of good suggestions. Is there a way you can look at recently archived posts? >>> Kerri Clavette <[log in to unmask]> 03/20/00 01:20PM >>> To anyone that can help- I am fairly new to the world of museums. I have a degree in Anthropology and am looking to find a job in a museum. Does anyone have any suggestions, words of wisdom, or emplyment informations to help me. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. Please respond on or off-list to [log in to unmask] Kerri ____________________________________________________________________ For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com ____________________________________________________________________ ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). . ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i just had a moment to read through this thread (which i saved when it came through) i dont usually say anything - but i am again struck by the extent to which the issue of belief plays in our lives. so much discussion revolving around these issues - so much conviction from so many people. what i find most facinating is that belief (abstract as it is [i suppose that we could engage in a discourse on whether or not belief is abstract]) has such an influence on how we live our lives - more specifically - how we make our decisions, and how we raise our children, how we form communities...... belief is very powerful - indeed. -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Belinda Nickles Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:27 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cre/Ev - Final Answer? Roy: I love this thread of conversation. Nothing gets the juices flowing like a discussion on politics or religion (probably because nothing can be proved absolutely either way). I could offer the creationists some very good arguments, but Indigo was right--it's time to move on to another subject. Anyway, to answer your question, the Field Museum in Chicago had a wonderful dinosaur exhibit a few years ago that also explored how life began in the oceans. At the end of the exhibit was a board where visitors could post their comments. That could have been an exhibit in itself. I don't know if the exhibit is still there as it was probably 5 years ago when I was there. Belinda Nickles Museum Consultant/Grant Writer ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:45:05 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: sallan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CAPS or no caps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What kinds of things motivate people to choose to do something that may impede the very process for which it's intended? Good intentions and the lack of understanding "systems thinking." In general terms, this means trying to look at a series of possible solutions for a problem and considering the long term implications of those solutions. Intuitively this makes sense. But most problems occur in fast paced environment with people moving at the speed of life and let's be honest, not everyone is intriniscally motivated, people bring to the table of series of unknown variables that play themselves out during the course of any problem solving agenda. We can educate ourselves about systems thinking and attempt to release our foot off the accelorator a bit, but as we grow older and become stubbord, we either have found happiness within ourselves are realize we are like our parents. Take for example, the increasing emphasis of the fast paced work environment. The "you are your own company mindset", the "sell yourself" and be prepared to shift and change jobs quickly. It is the faces of the covers of magazines asking your why your not a millionnaire yet or why you don't get erect over a rise in the stock market. What kind of message does this send to say; teachers, professors (which are always pissed that they aren't making enough money for how smart they are), even doctors or shop keepers, they don't want to move from job to job. What kind effects does this always changing economy, although fantastic for anyone who can technologically make-love with any hardware and software program, may be difficult for those still entrenched it what could be called "jobs of the old economy." But nothing I've said is new and we all contribute to some part of it. It is nice to in the company of friends, to feel accepted and welcomed, to have the chance to work hard and reap the benefits of your efforts, to acquire independence while engaging in teamwork. If you have any comments please respond to [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:35:07 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: endzweig <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: ACCESSIONING EXPENSES In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John, try the website . It is based on the results of a NPS survey of archaeological curation fees across the U.S., as of 1997, I think. That should be enough to get you started. -- Pam Dear listers, Our newly formed collections committee is working on acceptance guidelines for collections. As part of this process, we will be developing a per-box fee structure for the acceptance of archaeological materials (both historic and prehistoric). As part of this work, I need to learn what in-house costs other museums have for taking in such materials. For example, per-box costs for: staff time for processing/accessioning the materials storage or facility overhead (infrastructure costs) and any other misc. costs per box Feel free to comment off-list and all information will remain confidential. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Sincerely, John Parker --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. John Parker, RPA [log in to unmask] Central Coast Archaeology Website http://www.tcsn.net/sloarchaeology ---------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Pamela E. Endzweig Staff Archaeologist/Collections Manager Oregon State Museum of Anthropology/UO Museum of Natural History 1224 University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1224 USA Ph 541-346-5090/5120 Fx 541-346-5122 [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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To learn more, contact: Lori Gross, Director Museum Loan Network, MIT 265 Massachusetts Avenue, N52-439 Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 tel: 617-252-1888 fax: 617-252-1899 e-mail: [log in to unmask] http://loanet.mit.edu The Museum Loan Network - the first comprehensive national collection-sharing program - stimulates, facilitates, and funds long-term loans among U.S. institutions to enhance museums' permanent installations. The MLN is funded by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation and The Pew Charitable Trusts and administered by MIT's Office of the Arts. Lori Gross, Director Museum Loan Network MIT 265 Massachusetts Ave., N52-439 Cambridge, MA 02139-4370 tel: 617-252-1888 fax: 617-252-1899 e-mail: [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:14:09 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Dillenburg, Eugene" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Exhibition Text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain "Exhibit Labels: An Interpretive Approach" by Beverly Serrell (Alta Mira Press, 1996) is pretty much the guide for writing clear, accessible, informative labels. Marlene (?) Chambers of the Denver Art Museum is one of the leading proponents of Constructivist theory in exhibition, which, for the purposes of this particular discussion, might be defined as "helping visitors draw their own conclusions." Sorry, I don't have any specific citations for you, but I know she has written for AAM's "Museum News," NAME's "Exhibitionist," and perhaps "Curator" as well. Eugene Dillenburg Lead Developer, Philippine Coral Reef Exhibit John G. Shedd Aquarium 1200 S. Lake Shore Drive Chicago, Ill. 60605 V) 312 / 692-3136 F) 312 / 939 - 8001 e) [log in to unmask] This is a personal message. The views expressed in this message are solely those of the sender and are not to be attributed to the owner of the sender's domain, the sender's employer or any other person. Any reproduction or distribution of this message without this disclaimer is prohibited. "The dawn of a new era is felt and not measured." 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:38:35 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Museum Internship Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MUSEUM INTERNSHIP The Graycliff Conservancy, Inc., a non-profit organization established to preserve and restore the Frank Lloyd Wright-designed Isabelle R. Martin House "Graycliff", is seeking an intern to assist in the general administration of the historic residence. Responsibilities will include: (1) providing administrative support in the areas of tour, volunteer and membership coordination, and gift shop and admissions operations, (2) managing openings and closings the site and special site events, (3) serving as a spokesperson/liaison, (4) assisting in historical research, and (5) assisting in the general care of the site and its museum collections. Qualifications Graduate student or recent graduate in museum studies, historic preservation or in a related field. Knowledge of the work of Frank Lloyd Wright and/or American architecture & decorative arts highly desired. Good communication and organizational skills. Good interpersonal skills. Demonstrated knowledge of IBM PC format computers, Microsoft Windows, Word, Excel and Access, and the Internet. Stipend $5000 Duration of Internship 3 months (June - August) To Apply Send resume and three references to the Graycliff Conservancy, c/o 1016 Amherst St., D-6, Buffalo, NY 14216, attn: museum internship. Or e-mail application materials to [log in to unmask] Applications due by April 12 (postmarked). No phone calls please. For more information on the Graycliff Conservancy, write to the address above or visit on the web, http://graycliff.bfn.org. -- @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Rodney Gorme Obien Webmaster Graycliff Conservancy -- ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:31:24 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Susan Neill <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: ACCESSIONING EXPENSES Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Linda-- That looks very useful. --Susan ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:29:20 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Martha Jackson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Water Bottles on Tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0200_01BF9281.10366520" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0200_01BF9281.10366520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our policy is to restrict food and drink in our historic structures, visitor centers, and museums. Visitors are instructed to leave food and drink outside if going on a tour. Because so many people are carrying around bottled water, our interpreters are beginning to get a lot of flak from visitors saying, "It's just water, and I promise not to drink while inside." Interpreters have explained that they do not have the authority to make exceptions and that water can indeed harm certain objects. Does anyone have any guidelines for how to handle visitors who are carrying water bottles (in coat pockets, backpacks, bags, etc.) that are visible to the interpreter? Many thanks. Martha Battle Jackson Registrar North Carolina Historic Sites 4620 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4620 (919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515 [log in to unmask] The opinions expressed may not be those of this agency. ------=_NextPart_000_0200_01BF9281.10366520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Our policy is to restrict food and drink in our historic structures, visitor centers, and museums.  Visitors are instructed to leave food and drink outside if going on a tour.  Because so many people are carrying around bottled water, our interpreters are beginning to get a lot of flak from visitors saying, "It's just water, and I promise not to drink while inside."
 
Interpreters have explained that they do not have the authority to make exceptions and that water can indeed harm certain objects.  Does anyone have any guidelines for how to handle visitors who are carrying water bottles (in coat pockets, backpacks, bags, etc.) that are visible to the interpreter?
 
Many thanks.
 
 
Martha Battle Jackson
Registrar
North Carolina Historic Sites
4620 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC  27699-4620
(919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515
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Schirmer" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Masters issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a question that is related to the degree issue: I will be going to Grad school to recieve a masters in the next few years, and I would like to know if where you get your degree matters, or is it a personal and geographical matter? I am looking at a few highly renowned programs as well as a couple of local schools. Should I be considering reputation as an important matter, or is a masters, a masters, a masters? Are schools accredited through the AAM, or is it up to me to evaluate the quality of the program? Any advice would help me make these decisions, B. Schirmer ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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Decker" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: International Directory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Tara, Try the MuseumNetwork at www.museumnetwork.com Diana Decker Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:05:20 -0800 From: Tara Eckert <[log in to unmask]> Subject: International Directory Does anyone know a good international directory comparible to the AAM's Museum Directory for the US that includes updated contact info? Also, are there any good comprehensible websites that would also contain this info? Thanks. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:31:36 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Audra Oliver <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Policy on historic structure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Steve, for your input. Sorry I wasn't clearer in my original message. I am a city employee and the city owns and operates museum. Any policy will be developed through collection committee, approved by board and adopted by city council. These are the channels and paths that work here. The alternative educational path simply results in me being regarded as an impossible bitch interfering with other powers' ideas. What we seek are examples of other places policy wording restricting and formalizing the paths for restraining what is placed on the building and alterations to the buildings structure, appearance or character. Once this has gone through the channels (so far if the advisory board asks for it, the city council approves it) we will have the ability to say sorry can't do that. Audra ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Frevert <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: Policy on historic structure Audra, The situation you describe brings up a number of questions. First, who actually owns the museum structure, and are they also the ones responsible for maintaining it? If the municipality is the owner, then something in your agreement to operate the museum should spell out who is responsible for what. If this is still unclear, perhaps a good approach would be to arrange a meeting or task force with representatives from both the municipality and museum, with the purpose of clarifying the issue of site use. If the museum body drafts a policy regarding exterior use and alteration but doesn't actually own the building, the municipality isn't necessarily bound to follow that policy. Educating the city staff and administration might be the most tactful way to prevent future harm to the historic structure. YOU know the building is an artifact and a resource, and now the goal should be to get the city to see it in the same light. Best of luck! Steve Frevert ==================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:10:34 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Meryl Suzanne Beatri Zwanger <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: museum job search: sending letters In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi all- as one of the many looking...i haven't seen this addressed, but i was thinking of sending some letters cold to major museums in my area (new york city) - in other words, asking if there any openings or if they could keep my resume on file. i have two questions about this: is this not really helpful? if it is helpful, is it better to send directly to the department i am interested in (education), or human resources, or does it depend on the museum? does anyone have some suggestions about this? many thanks! meryl zwanger ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:55:19 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Anna Emerald <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kerri, I too am considering future employment with museums. I found a couple of websites particularly helpful. They are the following: http://www.aam-us.org/tis4c.htm http://asae.org/jobs/ http://w3.trib.com/~jamesal/index.html You can also go directly to each of the museum sites too. Best of luck to you! Anna Emerald E-mail: [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerri Clavette <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:20 AM > To anyone that can help- > I am fairly new to the world of museums. I have a degree in Anthropology and am looking to find a job in a museum. Does anyone have any suggestions, words of wisdom, or emplyment informations to help me. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. Please respond on or off-list to [log in to unmask] > Kerri > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:42:11 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Evan Riter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: museum job search: sending letters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having done the same thing, in NY, I can only relate my own experience. Unless you are very qualified, with a lot of experience sending cold letters is not very useful. It is better to send them to a specific department, however in some instances, especially larger institutions, you will have to deal with their human resources depts. It would be better to do some research into the institution you are interested in and to learn the name of the person who heads that dept. Then put out a specific inquiry on Museum-L and try to get an introduction to that person. I have found that contacts really help. Best of luck. Evan Riter ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:56:29 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: museum job search: sending letters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As the human resource contact at the National Air and Space Museum, I receive many of these letters. All of our hiring is handled through the central Smithsonian Office of Human Resources. Since most of our hiring is for federal positions, we follow the federal guidelines. My usual response is to send copies of current vacancy announcements at NASM, possible future openings, an application, information on the 24-hour jobline, and our website. I also mention that the OHR has an applicant supply file that is used to fill some vacancies, if the want to submit a resume to them. On occasion there are trust-funded temporary positions that might be filled without formal advertising. Unfortunately this is not very helpful to someone looking for a job. Good luck with your search. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:22:58 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "J. Cuasay" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Harn Museum of Art Subject: Re: Masters issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are some other factors that you might want to pay attention to as well in your process of choosing a masters program. Reputation of a school is helpful--but it's also related to who the faculty is at the school--the various persons you may get the opportunity to work with, etc. YES, what you actually DO in the program is also important--perhaps just as important as the overall name of the school. But finally--I'd like to mention the outside chance that you might not have thought of--the overall stability of the school you apply to. Will it still be around 5-10yrs after you've graduated. Will the faculty also be present to provide you support and recommendations toward your future career? Or will they be somewhere else doing something else because the insititution you went to morphed into something else either by some obvious reasons or for some other hidden economic or political reasons not immediately apparent. Just some thoughts to also consider. "b. Schirmer" wrote: > I have a question that is related to the degree issue: > > I will be going to Grad school to recieve a masters in the next few years, and I would like to know if where you get your degree matters, or is it a personal and geographical matter? I am looking at a few highly renowned programs as well as a couple of local schools. Should I be > considering reputation as an important matter, or is a masters, a masters, a masters? Are schools accredited through the AAM, or is it up to me to evaluate the quality of the program? > > Any advice would help me make these decisions, > B. Schirmer > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:00:42 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dennis Lloyd <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Exhibition Text On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 06:02:20 +1100, csn <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >I am looking for any information that may be available for the preparation of didactic educational text, papers online or off, books or any advice would be appreciated. Besides Beverly Serrell's "Exhibit Labels - An Interpretive Approach" 1996 AltaMira Press ISBN 0-7619-9106-9 there is "Text in the Exhibition Medium" edited by Andree Blais 1995 Musee de la civilisation, Quebec City ISBN2-551-13496-X Dennis Lloyd Applied Museum Studies Algonquin College Nepean, Canada www.algonquincollege.com/museum ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:12:12 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bode Morin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Policy on historic structure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We too are a city owned faciltiy staffed by civil servants. We control our site first through our mission statement which has as its first item to preserve Sloss Furnaces as a National Historic Landmark. The second way we control the site is to manage all projects (decorative, development, and preservation related), in-house. While this makes more work for us, it takes the burden off of city hall, much to everyone's relief downtown, and they let us make our own decisions. Bode Morin Curator Sloss Furnaces ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:30:38 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Ciotola, Nicholas P." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masters issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: Masters Degrees Those who are considering futures in the history museum world should make sure to think deeply about their graduate school decisions. The choice, I think, is not so much where to study but what to study. In other words, deciding between a Museum Studies MA and a History MA. Both Masters degrees (and it seems that today a Masters Degree is certainly a necessity) provide good stepping stones in the climb to that all so elusive entry level museum position. A museum studies degree provides extensive training in practical and theoretical issues in public history and museums while a history degree (concentration in US History) provides knowledge of the trends of American social, political, and economic history. Most would argue that a Museum Studies Program better prepares a student for the museum world. However, an MA in History, coupled with hands on experience through internships and volunteer work, is an equally accepted form of preparation. Those who opt for the museum studies route, however, should be aware of the fact that they are potentially type casting themselves for work in a specific field - one in which it is presently quite difficult to find a job. A person with a MA in History, on the contrary, can seek employment teaching at a community college or private school or return to college to get a certificate in the social studies and teach in American public schools. (If a museum job is eventually secured, community college teaching is always an option to augment meager museum salaries) This decision making process, it should be noted, is further complicated by the existence of public history programs and history programs that offer certificates in museums studies. Best of Luck. Nicholas P. Ciotola Curator, Italian American Collection Senator John Heinz Pittsburgh Regional History Center Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania 1212 Smallman Street Pittsburgh, PA 15222 (412) 454-6433 [log in to unmask] www.wpaitalians.com -----Original Message----- From: J. Cuasay [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:23 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Masters issue There are some other factors that you might want to pay attention to as well in your process of choosing a masters program. Reputation of a school is helpful--but it's also related to who the faculty is at the school--the various persons you may get the opportunity to work with, etc. YES, what you actually DO in the program is also important--perhaps just as important as the overall name of the school. But finally--I'd like to mention the outside chance that you might not have thought of--the overall stability of the school you apply to. Will it still be around 5-10yrs after you've graduated. Will the faculty also be present to provide you support and recommendations toward your future career? Or will they be somewhere else doing something else because the insititution you went to morphed into something else either by some obvious reasons or for some other hidden economic or political reasons not immediately apparent. Just some thoughts to also consider. "b. Schirmer" wrote: > I have a question that is related to the degree issue: > > I will be going to Grad school to recieve a masters in the next few years, and I would like to know if where you get your degree matters, or is it a personal and geographical matter? I am looking at a few highly renowned programs as well as a couple of local schools. Should I be > considering reputation as an important matter, or is a masters, a masters, a masters? Are schools accredited through the AAM, or is it up to me to evaluate the quality of the program? > > Any advice would help me make these decisions, > B. Schirmer > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:39:38 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Felicia Pickering <[log in to unmask]> Subject: town meeting on teaching evolution Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII DISCLAIMER: I am in no way associated with this event. I am just passing on the notice below which seems relevant to the list in light of recent discussions. Also, the event will be audio-taped and tapes will be available for purchase. >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >20 March 2000 > >Contact: >Jodi F. Kolber, AIBS Communications Representative >202/628-1500, ext. 253; [log in to unmask] > > >AIBS and NABT PRESENT A >TOWN MEETING ON TEACHING EVOLUTION > > >On Wednesday, 22 March, from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., the American >Institute of Biological Sciences and the National Association of Biology >Teachers will bring high school and undergraduate biology educators >together with scientific researchers and education experts in a town >meeting to discuss the current landscape for teaching evolution vis-a-vis >state level actions, and to discuss what should be done next. > >"The number of states that encourage, permit, or tolerate--not to mention >respect--the teaching of evolution and the study of natural origins has >decreased substantially in the past year. The scientific community has to >take a stand and to counteract this trend," explained AIBS Executive >Director Richard O'Grady. > >"In response to that prevalent and very real threat, we felt compelled to >present accurate scientific information in a forum where a plan could be >put together to prevent more states from following suit," said Wayne >Carley, NABT executive director. > >Six panelists will address a broad range of scientific, pedagogic, and >socio-political factors currently affecting the teaching of evolution >across the educational spectrum. Panelists include Rodger Bybee, Biological >Sciences Curriculum Study executive director; Jon Herron, zoology lecturer >at the University of Washington; Eugenie Scott, executive director of the >National Center for Science Education; David Wake, professor of integrative >and comparative biology at the University of California, Berkeley; and Brad >Williamson, AP biology teacher at Olathe East High School, Olathe, KS. M. >Patricia Morse, acting professor on the faculty of the Zoology Department >at the University of Washington, chair of the National Research Council >Committee on Attracting Science and Mathematics Ph.D.s to K-12 Education, >and project lead on an AIBS/Packard Foundation grant to review high school >biology instructional materials, will moderate the event. > >Admission to the town meeting is free, but the event is being held in >conjunction with the 52nd AIBS annual meeting (co-sponsored and hosted by >the Smithsonian Institution; see www.aibs.org for details), so space is >limited and cannot be reserved---arrive early! RSVPs are not required. The >event will be audio-taped; tapes may be purchased for $10 plus shipping and >handling by contacting the AIBS Communications Office at 202/628-1500, ext. >261, 202/628-1509, fax, or [log in to unmask] > >MEETING LOCATION: Key Bridge Marriott, Potomac Salon Rooms B/C/D, 1401 Lee >Highway, Arlington, Va., 22209, 800-327-9789 (across the Key Bridge from >Georgetown, DC). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:58:19 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Aaron Marcavitch <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masters issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii AH HA! This is the topic I had thought about asking. I happen to fall into the "further complicated" catagory. I will be returning this fall to school. Most likely I will be going to Middle Tennesee State University for a MA in History with a concentration in Public History (with a more specific focus on Preservation, Cultural Resources (government), or Museum Studies). I will probably augment that with the educataion certificate. OR I may end up at BU with a degree in American Studies. My intention has been to find a job as a professor, but as it looks, I may have to do other things while doing the Comm. College or local university. That is why I am leaning towards the MTSU program because I can choose classes in Museum Studies. The reason I chose to go with the AMST programs was because they offered me the choice of going to a variety of places afterward. I could teach (K-12 or College), do musuem education, work as a preservationist (as I am doing now), write (if only that paid the bills), or who knows what else (Web design as things are looking). This seach for a masters program has caused me to look close by to my current spot (Boston) but I also looked at Tennesee because their program was so multi-faceted. So I would agree, decide if you are ok with being pigeon holed (although that is not always true-and I dont want to get into a war of words) or if you want something that is a bit too nebulus for most (like my BA in Historic Preservation...what the heck is that?) Good luck! P.S. Nicholas, be sure to keep an eye out for my resume in two years! ====Aaron Marcavitch-- [log in to unmask] Webmaster/Program Assistant Historic Massachusetts & Designer/Consultant Cymatium.net Web Designs http://www.cymatium.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:49:55 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: James Tichgelaar <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masters issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To either clarify or complicate matters (depending on how you look at it), according to a recent survey (as of yet unpublished), 59% of respondents stated that, if they were hiring for a position, specialized training would be "Important" or "Highly Important." Asked about the ideal educational background for entry level employees, 34.7% responded BA w/Museum Studies certificate, and 32.7% responded MA w/Museum Studies Certificate, although administrators were more likely to respond that a BA with training was ideal. These results are based on 162 responses from museum professionals in Arkansas and the adjacent areas of Missouri, Illinois, Oklahoma, Kansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. (I'm still working on the final report, stay tuned). "Ciotola, Nicholas P." wrote: > This decision making process, it should be noted, is further complicated by > the existence of public history programs and history programs that offer > certificates in museums studies. > > Best of Luck. > > Nicholas P. Ciotola > Curator, Italian American Collection > Senator John Heinz Pittsburgh Regional History Center > Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania > 1212 Smallman Street > Pittsburgh, PA 15222 > (412) 454-6433 > [log in to unmask] > www.wpaitalians.com > -- James H Tichgelaar Registrar, Arkansas State University Museum http://museum.astate.edu "All we ever wanted was everything. All we ever got was cold." ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:46:35 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Will Garrison <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Stimulating beverages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DECORATIVE ARTS LECTURE Historic Deerfield, Inc. Deerfield, Massachusetts Stimulating Beverages: The Social History of Tea, Coffee, and Chocolate Saturday, April 15, 2000 Historic Deerfield, Inc. will present a day-long decorative arts forum on the subject of "Stimulating Beverages: The Social History of Tea, Coffee, and Chocolate." In the mid-1600s Europeans were introduced to three new beverages, coffee, tea, and chocolate, which revolutionized the way they lived. The establishment of trading posts and colonies in North America, the Caribbean, Africa, and the East led to the appearance of many more exotic foods and drinks. Historic Deerfield's Decorative Arts Forum will examine the role of these three beverages in daily life, the social rituals surrounding their service and consumption, and their profound effect on the silver and ceramics industries. Meredith Chilton, Chief Curator of the George R. Gardiner Museum of Ceramic Art, Toronto, will expand upon her recent research on tea, giving the lecture "The Impertinent novelty of the Age... An excellent drink called Tay." Amanda Lange, Associate Curator at Historic Deerfield, will speak on the significance of coffee and chocolate in English and American life in a lecture entitled, "Bitter Brews and Sweet Concoctions: Coffee and Chocolate in England and America." The Forum will include house tours, a hands-on workshop with the museum's ceramic and silver wares, and an exhibition of the museum's "tea book," a collection of twenty-four Chinese watercolor drawings depicting the process of growing and manufacturing tea. For a separate fee, the Deerfield Inn will be hosting an elegant Victorian tea at the end of the day's activities. Ms. Chilton joined the Gardiner Museum in 1983, and was a member of the team responsible for the opening of the Museum in 1984. She has curated fifteen exhibitions at the Gardiner and has contributed to several exhibitions at other institutions. Her particular academic interests are European ceramics from 1400-1900, with an emphasis on early European porcelain. She is at work on the first major scholarly publication of the Museum's collections: Harlequin's Masquerade: The Commedia dell'Arte in Eighteenth Century Europe, which will be launched in September 2001 with an important exhibition. The cost of the "Stimulating Beverages" forum is $50 per person to cover museum and lecture admissions, hands-on workshop, and lunch. For those wishing to attend a single lecture, the rate is $15 per lecture. The price for the Victorian tea is $35 per person, which includes admission to Historic Deerfield's Flynt Center of Early New England Life, a brief lecture by Ms. Chilton, tea, tea sandwiches, pastries, and music. For brochures and registration, please contact Nancy Bell at (413) 775-7132 or [log in to unmask] . www.historic-deerfield.org ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:38:30 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Billings Curation Center <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Internship Announcement Comments: To: [log in to unmask] Comments: cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII STUDENT INTERNSHIP ANNOUNCEMENT NUMBER MT-0001 Issue Date: March 6, 2000 Closing Date: April 7, 2000 Approximate Starting Date: May 15, 2000 POSITION TITLE: Archaeological Curation Assistant (2 positions) LOCATION: Billings, Montana. PROJECT DESCRIPTION: The Billings Curation Center is a principal repository for archaeological and ethnographic collections recovered from federal lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), the Bureau of Reclamation (BOR), Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and the Custer National Forest (CNF), in Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota. The BCC is operated by the Montana State Office of the BLM. The purpose of the repository is to properly store these materials, making them accessible for future research. The Curation Assistant is to meet this purpose by assembling all associated documentation, catalog, and verify previous identifications. BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF DUTIES: Each intern will be assigned various accessions and will be expected to take each collection through all phases of the curation process. The intern will get to complete registration, cataloging, files searches, lithic identification, and archiving photographic media and grey literature. DESIRED QUALIFICATIONS: Interns should have background coursework in North American archaeology, Plains archaeology, lithic technology, Museology and/or laboratory or collection's management experience. For the Summer 2000 positions, digital imaging and web page development skills are highly desirable. Candidates should be focused, motivated, thorough and able to work independently. SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS: Reimbursement for meals and lodging will be provided. ($825.00 per month). WORK SCHEDULE: 40 hours per week. Starting and ending dates can be negotiated to fit each individual's academic schedule. PROJECT SUPERVISOR: David K. Wade, Curator of Collections, University of Montana TERM OF POSITION: Two months minimum, three months maximum. WHO MAY APPLY: Applications will be accepted from currently enrolled graduate and upper-level undergraduate students, as well as from recent (within 2 years) graduates. HOW TO APPLY: Submit a cover letter and current resume highlighting courses and work experience along with three references to: Gary P. Smith, State Archaeologist Bureau of Land Management 5001 Southgate P.O. Box 36800 Billings, Montana 59107-6800 ____________________________________________________________________________ http://www.mt.blm.gov/BCC [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:12:32 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CAPS or no caps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My esteemed listmate, Patrick Boylan, sent the following pronouncement over the sea and across the wires, racing to a computer near you: --- Boylan P <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > More seriously, anyone who wants to write in one > case only should use > capitals - which are much more readable than all > lower case/ Actually, they're not, not if you have any kind of an attention or reading difficulty. They are much harder to read. I was diagnosed--at long last and hurrah for the key that unlocked the door to long-unanswered questions and issues in my life--with the inattentive type of Attention Deficit in 1997. It was a genuine epiphany and, by studying same (don't laugh, there may be many of you on list who have this same "gift" and are undiagnosed since ADHD was not truly recognized until 1968, thereby skipping many a Boomer, and ladies have been seriously underlooked in this phenomenon), I've been able to better understand some of my own perceived personality quirks. With that said, getting page-long paragraphs, or things typed in all caps are a sure-fire way to make sure I ain'ta gonna read yer stuff (is that colloquial enough for you?). As for the caps or no-caps issue (which has to be an incredibly preposterous thread unto itself), many a computer program (I think Unix-based immediately comes to mind, but there may be others) REQUIRE that you type in lower case. So there is validity to the argument that a number of folks in the on-line community would go the no-caps routine. Last week, I believe we had one of the best weeks ever here on Museums List (or at least the best in my tenure here, over two years). We had a wonderful, free-flowing debate about a very controversial subject matter, allowed for some levity, and heard from people we rarely engage (the infamous phantom lurkers). Now, in just a few days time, we're going in the other direction, spending far too much time (in my mind) in the elitist mindset of "Thou must stick to convention because it's the hoity-toity thing to do." Very interesting, but dumb! (Doing my best Arte Johnson impression here.) As one who once typed well over 100 WPM (hey, it was a job to pay the bills), I can tell you without equivocation, typing is a pain. The brain is a hell of a lot faster than the fingers. Sometimes, just to get the thoughts out, to allow for the free-flow of dialogue, you skip the convention and go for the message. It's called communication. I dunno, I find this whole thread amazingly absurd, and even more absurd, find myself adding to the dysfunctionality of it all. Where is my shrink's number? ====Indigo Nights [log in to unmask] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:27:31 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Conrad/Caldwell House Museum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Policy on historic structure Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Audra, I missed the original post but have been very interested in the replies. I wonder if you would find what you are seeking in ordinances from local landmarks commissions or historic preservation ordinances. Just a thought. At 03:31 AM 03/20/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Thanks Steve, for your input. > >Sorry I wasn't clearer in my original message. I am a city employee and the >city owns and operates museum. Any policy will be developed through >collection committee, approved by board and adopted by city council. These >are the channels and paths that work here. The alternative educational path >simply results in me being regarded as an impossible bitch interfering with >other powers' ideas. What we seek are examples of other places policy >wording restricting and formalizing the paths for restraining what is placed >on the building and alterations to the buildings structure, appearance or >character. Once this has gone through the channels (so far if the advisory >board asks for it, the city council approves it) we will have the ability to >say sorry can't do that. > >Audra > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Steve Frevert <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 4:20 PM >Subject: Policy on historic structure > > >Audra, > The situation you describe brings up a number of questions. First, >who actually owns the museum structure, and are they also the ones >responsible for maintaining it? If the municipality is the owner, then >something in your agreement to operate the museum should spell out who is >responsible for what. If this is still unclear, perhaps a good approach >would be to arrange a meeting or task force with representatives from both >the municipality and museum, with the purpose of clarifying the issue of >site use. If the museum body drafts a policy regarding exterior use and >alteration but doesn't actually own the building, the municipality isn't >necessarily bound to follow that policy. Educating the city staff and >administration might be the most tactful way to prevent future harm to the >historic structure. YOU know the building is an artifact and a resource, >and now the goal should be to get the city to see it in the same light. >Best of luck! > >Steve Frevert > >==================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message >to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" >(without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to >[log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff >Museum-L" (without the quotes). > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:07:08 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: museum job search: sending letters In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking from a large bureaucratic organization--send your resume directly to the person you would like to work for. Follow-up with a phone call and see if you can schedule a meeting with the person even if they don't have an opening at present. If they are interested in you they will help you negotiate the right steps with the human resources department. If they take time to meet you be sure to send a thank you note. In twenty years I have only had a handful and they do make an impression. Don't call to thank them--send a note. Kathy Dickson as one of the many looking...i haven't seen this addressed, but i was thinking of sending some letters cold to major museums in my area (new york city) - in other words, asking if there any openings or if they could keep my resume on file. i have two questions about this: is this not really helpful? if it is helpful, is it better to send directly to the department i am interested in (education), or human resources, or does it depend on the museum? does anyone have some suggestions about this? many thanks! meryl zwanger ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:49:45 -0000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Sarre, Jane - E&L CDU" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: UK Exhibition Designers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dear listers, We are about to start re-displaying a small town museum housed in a 1980s building also containing a library and an art gallery. Can anyone reccommend any museum exhibition designers perferably based in the south east who have creative flair, work well with objects, but are also reliable and organised? If you know of anybody or have seem a good local/town history re-display that we could follow up, your comments would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Jane Sarre Museum Development Advisor Kent County Council Education & Libraries Cultural Development Unit Springfield Maidstone Kent ME14 2LH tel 01622 696439 fax 01622 696419 mobile 0411 722010 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:59:14 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dayton Labs <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Most Unforgetable Exhibit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? Examples from my experience include "The Amputated Leg of General Sickles" at the old Army Medical Museum, or the "supposed" 19th Century witch in a lead sealed bottle mentioned last autumn on this list. The bizarre, the outre, the acquisition with a folk legend attached (Hope Diamond). Tell the list! The item need not be on exhibit. Things from the basement like Yale's collection of pickled brains. Same goes for works of art! Any good stories accompanying them. Likewise strange curatorial experiences. David Gerrick - Information Services Dayton Lab ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:04:07 -0000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: JEREMY OTTEVANGER <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: UK Exhibition Designers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you seen the Croydon museum (I forget the name the give it)? It's a marvellous example, even though it's a few years old, of what can be achieved in a small area using IT, oral history and material evidence. Get in touch with the museum for information on who did the work. Good luck! Jeremy Ottevanger (independent museum web designer) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarre, Jane - E&L CDU <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:49 PM Subject: UK Exhibition Designers > Dear listers, > > We are about to start re-displaying a small town museum housed in a 1980s > building also containing a library and an art gallery. Can anyone reccommend > any museum exhibition designers perferably based in the south east who have > creative flair, work well with objects, but are also reliable and organised? > If you know of anybody or have seem a good local/town history re-display > that we could follow up, your comments would be much appreciated. > > Many thanks, > > Jane Sarre > > Museum Development Advisor > Kent County Council Education & Libraries > Cultural Development Unit > Springfield > Maidstone > Kent ME14 2LH > > tel 01622 696439 > fax 01622 696419 > mobile 0411 722010 > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:43:51 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Starlyn D'Angel <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Old Stone Fort Museum Subject: Daguerrotype storage materials MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! Perhaps someone out there can help me. I need to find a suitable material for housing a daguerrotype that no longer has a case. The emulsion is flaking off so I'm looking for a non-abrasive material. Would the CRPP photographic paper (alpha cellulose, .006, neutralpH, sulpher and lignen free) produced by Conservation Resources be appropriate? Thanks for your help. Starlyn D'Angelo Old Stone Fort Museum ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:34:36 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Carrie Beauchamp <[log in to unmask]> Subject: exhibit mounts-- clothing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I am the registrar at a smallish museum, and somehow got roped into doing an exhibit featuring historic rodeo wear (!). We are temporarily without an exhibit designer, so I your need help! My biggest problem is mounts. The objects are shirts, skirts, pants, and chaps. I can't use our regular Victorian-looking mannequins, and I'd rather not use mannequins anyway, because we aren't showing whole outfits, just pieces. I would like to make these mounts as invisible as possible. The space is a roped off corner platform with some kind of fancy wooden flooring which I'd rather not destroy. The idea now is to suspend the clothing from the ceiling, so that they are "layered" horizontally and vertically. I worry that the clothing will "sway" (these will not be in a case). I also worry that the leather items, which are rather heavy, wont get enough support without a bulky ugly mount. Any ideas on this? Final details: This is supposed to be up by May 1 (ha!) and we have a slew of construction volunteers, but very tiny budget. Buying anything prefabricated is taboo. I will be EXTREMELY grateful for any suggestions on- or off- list. Thanks! Carrie Beauchamp CFD Old West Museum Cheyenne, WY ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:16:48 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Harold Needham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CAPS or no caps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to agree with Indigo Nights. I am legally blind, as a result of RP, and have a field of acute vision of only about 5 or 6 degrees. I find reading all lower case MUCH easier than all caps, but this is also a function of the font. Sans-serif fonts are not as much of a problem. Harry "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup" (or Vegemite, if you're in the old Oz) Harry Needham President Harry Needham Consulting Services Inc. Training & consulting services for heritage institutions 74 Abbeyhill Drive Kanata, Ontario K2L 1H1 Canada email: [log in to unmask] (Voice) +1.613.831-1068 (Fax) +1.613.831-9412 ----- Original Message ----- From: Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CAPS or no caps > My esteemed listmate, Patrick Boylan, sent the > following pronouncement over the sea and across the > wires, racing to a computer near you: > > --- Boylan P <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > More seriously, anyone who wants to write in one > > case only should use > > capitals - which are much more readable than all > > lower case/ > > Actually, they're not, not if you have any kind of an > attention or reading difficulty. They are much harder > to read. > > I was diagnosed--at long last and hurrah for the key > that unlocked the door to long-unanswered questions > and issues in my life--with the inattentive type of > Attention Deficit in 1997. It was a genuine epiphany > and, by studying same (don't laugh, there may be many > of you on list who have this same "gift" and are > undiagnosed since ADHD was not truly recognized until > 1968, thereby skipping many a Boomer, and ladies have > been seriously underlooked in this phenomenon), I've > been able to better understand some of my own > perceived personality quirks. > > With that said, getting page-long paragraphs, or > things typed in all caps are a sure-fire way to make > sure I ain'ta gonna read yer stuff (is that colloquial > enough for you?). > > As for the caps or no-caps issue (which has to be an > incredibly preposterous thread unto itself), many a > computer program (I think Unix-based immediately comes > to mind, but there may be others) REQUIRE that you > type in lower case. So there is validity to the > argument that a number of folks in the on-line > community would go the no-caps routine. > > Last week, I believe we had one of the best weeks ever > here on Museums List (or at least the best in my > tenure here, over two years). We had a wonderful, > free-flowing debate about a very controversial subject > matter, allowed for some levity, and heard from people > we rarely engage (the infamous phantom lurkers). > > Now, in just a few days time, we're going in the other > direction, spending far too much time (in my mind) in > the elitist mindset of "Thou must stick to convention > because it's the hoity-toity thing to do." > > Very interesting, but dumb! (Doing my best Arte > Johnson impression here.) > > As one who once typed well over 100 WPM (hey, it was a > job to pay the bills), I can tell you without > equivocation, typing is a pain. The brain is a hell > of a lot faster than the fingers. Sometimes, just to > get the thoughts out, to allow for the free-flow of > dialogue, you skip the convention and go for the > message. It's called communication. > > I dunno, I find this whole thread amazingly absurd, > and even more absurd, find myself adding to the > dysfunctionality of it all. > > Where is my shrink's number? > > > > > ====> Indigo Nights > [log in to unmask] > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:48:34 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Williams, Monica" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Nonprofit use of the Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am writing a series of articles about nonprofit use of the Internet. I am currently looking for examples of cultural organizations that are using their Web sites to increase membership and/or using e-commerce to sell tickets, memberships, or other items online. I would also like to interview staff members about their organization's experience (good or bad) in planning, developing, or fundraising for a Web site. If anyone is interested in sharing their experiences with other nonprofits and would like more information, please contact me directly. Thanks! Monica Williams Benton Foundation www.benton.org [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:59:03 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ross Weeks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Water Bottles on Tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01BF932C.DA1F6D40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BF932C.DA1F6D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is an interesting question. There are individuals who must carry distilled water with them at all times for medical reasons. We have one on our staff and it has something to do with allergies and she must drink every ten or 15 minutes. She uses a Mason jar and when in costume, she refers to it as her 'shine. Restricting food and beverages is one thing. I would have a hard time banning the carrying of bottled water when it is tucked away where it won't spill accidentally. The policy may have been written years ago before bottled water began showing. State agencies tend to forget "why" certain phrases were used in writing the existing policies and there is also tremendous disincentive against changing them. More than likely, the restriction was aimed at soft drinks, coffee, and other refreshments. Ross Weeks Jr. Tazewell VA ----- Original Message ----- From: Martha Jackson To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:29 PM Subject: Water Bottles on Tour Our policy is to restrict food and drink in our historic structures, visitor centers, and museums. Visitors are instructed to leave food and drink outside if going on a tour. Because so many people are carrying around bottled water, our interpreters are beginning to get a lot of flak from visitors saying, "It's just water, and I promise not to drink while inside." Interpreters have explained that they do not have the authority to make exceptions and that water can indeed harm certain objects. Does anyone have any guidelines for how to handle visitors who are carrying water bottles (in coat pockets, backpacks, bags, etc.) that are visible to the interpreter? Many thanks. Martha Battle Jackson Registrar North Carolina Historic Sites 4620 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4620 (919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515 [log in to unmask] The opinions expressed may not be those of this agency. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BF932C.DA1F6D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is an interesting question.  There are individuals who must carry distilled water with them at all times for medical reasons.  We have one on our staff and it has something to do with allergies and she must drink every ten or 15 minutes.  <s> She uses a Mason jar and when in costume, she refers to it as her 'shine.
 
Restricting food and beverages is one thing.  I would have a hard time banning the carrying of bottled water when it is tucked away where it won't spill accidentally.  The policy may have been written years ago before bottled water began showing.  State agencies tend to forget "why" certain phrases were used in writing the existing policies and there is also tremendous disincentive against changing them.  More than likely, the restriction was aimed at soft drinks, coffee, and other refreshments.  
 
Ross Weeks Jr.
Tazewell VA
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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: Water Bottles on Tour

Our policy is to restrict food and drink in our historic structures, visitor centers, and museums.  Visitors are instructed to leave food and drink outside if going on a tour.  Because so many people are carrying around bottled water, our interpreters are beginning to get a lot of flak from visitors saying, "It's just water, and I promise not to drink while inside."
 
Interpreters have explained that they do not have the authority to make exceptions and that water can indeed harm certain objects.  Does anyone have any guidelines for how to handle visitors who are carrying water bottles (in coat pockets, backpacks, bags, etc.) that are visible to the interpreter?
 
Many thanks.
 
 
Martha Battle Jackson
Registrar
North Carolina Historic Sites
4620 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC  27699-4620
(919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515
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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:38:48 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruby Rogers <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibit mounts-- clothing In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't locate my ancient book on exhibiting costumes so I can't give you the title. But here are abbreviated instructions. Use thick fomecore as the base for each piece; build up with cotton padding and then cover with muslin. Since you want to hang the items, you could probably also use lightweight plywood as your base. Screw eyes with monofilament would be screwed directly into the plywood for suspending them. Good luck. Ruby -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Carrie Beauchamp Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:35 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: exhibit mounts-- clothing Hello! I am the registrar at a smallish museum, and somehow got roped into doing an exhibit featuring historic rodeo wear (!). We are temporarily without an exhibit designer, so I your need help! My biggest problem is mounts. The objects are shirts, skirts, pants, and chaps. I can't use our regular Victorian-looking mannequins, and I'd rather not use mannequins anyway, because we aren't showing whole outfits, just pieces. I would like to make these mounts as invisible as possible. The space is a roped off corner platform with some kind of fancy wooden flooring which I'd rather not destroy. The idea now is to suspend the clothing from the ceiling, so that they are "layered" horizontally and vertically. I worry that the clothing will "sway" (these will not be in a case). I also worry that the leather items, which are rather heavy, wont get enough support without a bulky ugly mount. Any ideas on this? Final details: This is supposed to be up by May 1 (ha!) and we have a slew of construction volunteers, but very tiny budget. Buying anything prefabricated is taboo. I will be EXTREMELY grateful for any suggestions on- or off- list. Thanks! Carrie Beauchamp CFD Old West Museum Cheyenne, WY ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Good Luck! -Shana O'Hara Aljira, a Center for Contemporary Art >From: Starlyn D'Angel <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Daguerrotype storage materials >Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:43:51 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.119.0.9] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBAA10A110040D820F3CCD177000906830; Tue Mar 21 10:27:55 2000 >Received: from mango.ease.lsoft.com (demo.lsoft.com) by home.ease.lsoft.com >(LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; >Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:21:30 -0500 >Received: from home (home.ease.lsoft.com) by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP >for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, >21 Mar 2000 13:25:10 -0500 >Received: from HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM by HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > release 1.8d) with spool id 44006888 for >[log in to unmask]; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:21:21 -0500 >Received: from telenet.net (www.telenet.net) by home.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP >for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id ><[log in to unmask]>; 19 Mar 2000 10:28:26 -0500 >Received: from telenet.net (dialup246-80.telenet.net [208.13.246.80]) by > telenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06056 for ><[log in to unmask]>; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:31:25 -0500 >From [log in to unmask] Tue Mar 21 10:31:19 2000 >Approved-By: [log in to unmask] >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) >X-Accept-Language: en >Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >Organization: Old Stone Fort Museum > >Hello! > >Perhaps someone out there can help me. I need to find a suitable >material for housing a daguerrotype that no longer has a case. The >emulsion is flaking off so I'm looking for a non-abrasive material. >Would the CRPP photographic paper (alpha cellulose, .006, neutralpH, >sulpher and lignen free) produced by Conservation Resources be >appropriate? Thanks for your help. > >Starlyn D'Angelo >Old Stone Fort Museum > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail >message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should >read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to >[log in to unmask] . 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Government Affairs Counsel and Assistant Director Government and Public Affairs American Association of Museums 1575 Eye Street, NW Suite 400 Washington, DC 20005 202/289-9125 Phone 202/289-6578 Fax [log in to unmask] E-mail http://www.aam-us.org Website > -----Original Message----- > From: Williams, Monica [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 2:49 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Nonprofit use of the Internet > > I am writing a series of articles about nonprofit use of the Internet. I > am > currently looking for examples of cultural organizations that are using > their Web sites to increase membership and/or using e-commerce to sell > tickets, memberships, or other items online. 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:57:49 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibit mounts-- clothing In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Using a fitting pattern (available from any fabric store) and the plastic hobby mesh you can create a form fitted mount for the item. The plastic mesh does not contain PVC and you place a layer of batting muslin over it. If you need to suspend it you can run a plex rod through the form. Very cheap--Looks great!! If you want more details let me know. Kathy Dickson, Director of Museums Oklahoma Historical Society 2100 N. Lincoln Oklahoma City, OK 73105-4997 405-522-5231 [log in to unmask] My biggest problem is mounts. The objects are shirts, skirts, pants, and chaps. I can't use our regular Victorian-looking mannequins, and I'd rather not use mannequins anyway, because we aren't showing whole outfits, just pieces. I would like to make these mounts as invisible as possible. The space is a roped off corner platform with some kind of fancy wooden flooring which I'd rather not destroy. The idea now is to suspend the clothing from the ceiling, so that they are "layered" horizontally and vertically. I worry that the clothing will "sway" (these will not be in a case). I also worry that the leather items, which are rather heavy, wont get enough support without a bulky ugly mount. Any ideas on this? . ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:18:26 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kim Feinknopf <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Daguerrotype storage materials MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Starlyn, First we have to make sure you are talking about the right kind of photographic process. If it is flaking it sounds more like an ambrotype than a silver plated copper plate daguerreotype. A dag will reflect like a mirror and if it is unprotected it will wipe off since it is only a thin fumed on coat of mercury. The ambrotype is on glass and looks like a negative out of the preserver and case. The lacquers on the back will often flake, as well as, the emulsion at times. These collodian images on glass are fragile and will continue their loss with changes in temperature and humidity. The best bet is to create an environment that will be stable and where handling will be kept to a minimum. Create an acid free(nonbuffered) cardboard box or buy one exact to the size of the plate, limit too your wrap as it may cause flaking in opening and closing around the plate. Ambrotypes in good shape can be kept in small (to the size of the plate)acid free envelopes bought at archival supply houses but should be kept up right and in tight storage where plates will not fall or weigh down on one another. If this is an important document in the collection do call Eastman Kodak in Rochester or the Image Permanence Institute they will also help with the stabilization of such media. Best luck, Kim Feinknopf-Dorrian Ohio Historical Society History Collections Department 1982 Velma Ave. Columbus, Ohio 43211 (614) 298-2052 [log in to unmask] > -----Original Message----- > From: Starlyn D'Angel [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:44 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Daguerrotype storage materials > > Hello! > > Perhaps someone out there can help me. I need to find a suitable > material for housing a daguerrotype that no longer has a case. The > emulsion is flaking off so I'm looking for a non-abrasive material. > Would the CRPP photographic paper (alpha cellulose, .006, neutralpH, > sulpher and lignen free) produced by Conservation Resources be > appropriate? Thanks for your help. > > Starlyn D'Angelo > Old Stone Fort Museum > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:34:18 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Anna Emerald <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David, I don't remember a whole lot from experiences when I was a kid. I didn't really feel like I started visiting them until I was in college, so my answer may not be what you are looking for. However, I would have to say that going through the Holocaust Museum was something I will never forget. It was truly an emotional experience. Anna Emerald 1230 Amsterdam Avenue Whittier Hall, #331 New York, NY 10027 E-mail: [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: Dayton Labs <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Most Unforgetable Exhibit > I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual > acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at > supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? Examples > from my experience include "The Amputated Leg of General Sickles" at the > old Army Medical Museum, or the "supposed" 19th Century witch in a lead > sealed bottle mentioned last autumn on this list. The bizarre, the > outre, the acquisition with a folk legend attached (Hope Diamond). Tell > the list! The item need not be on exhibit. Things from the basement like > Yale's collection of pickled brains. Same goes for works of art! Any > good stories accompanying them. Likewise strange curatorial experiences. > > David Gerrick - Information Services > Dayton Lab > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:35:10 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Cindy Cable <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Funny you should ask this question. We currently have an exhibit up, "Preserving the Past, Planning for the Future." In a nutshell, the exhibit explains what the museum was like in 1903 when it was founded, important temporary exhibits over the years, and the plans for a new museum to be built. However, the main "attraction" to the exhibit is our fake mummy. For years, the mummy was on exhibit and in the 1960s a local med student decided to do some research on our prized mummy. Well to the horror of the community, the mummy turned out to be fake. We have x-rays of the nails and wood used to hold the mummy together and pieces of the newspaper used for the paper mache. In the 1970s when the mission was changed to include only objects relating to Mississippi, the mummy was taken off of exhibit. There was a huge uproar from the community over the "mummy" going into storage. This is the first time in years the mummy has been out on exhibit, and people still love that "dummy mummy"--as it is called here in Jackson. -- Cindy Cable, Registrar Old Capitol Museum P.O. Box 571 Jackson, MS 39205-0571 Telephone: 601/359-6930 Facsimile: 601/359-6981 Email: [log in to unmask] Dayton Labs wrote: > I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual > acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at > supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? Examples > from my experience include "The Amputated Leg of General Sickles" at the > old Army Medical Museum, or the "supposed" 19th Century witch in a lead > sealed bottle mentioned last autumn on this list. The bizarre, the > outre, the acquisition with a folk legend attached (Hope Diamond). Tell > the list! The item need not be on exhibit. Things from the basement like > Yale's collection of pickled brains. Same goes for works of art! Any > good stories accompanying them. Likewise strange curatorial experiences. > > David Gerrick - Information Services > Dayton Lab > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:32:53 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Laura Petznick <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Water Bottles on Tour Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask] Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems to me that restrictions of any kind must be clearly and carefully stated before the tour begins. If I were encountered with a guest who refused to leave a water bottle outside, I would kindly state that this is the policy and, although I am sure that he or she would not intentionally cause damage to the interior of the museum, accidents do happen. I would then offer to leave the bottle at the visitor's center. As a former docent at many historic house museums, I have encountered similar situations. My view is to remain firm on the policy but enforce them by treating guests with kid gloves - make it their idea to comply by the rules! In training volunteers and docents for such a situation, I would have them act out various scenarios and see how they would handle the situations first. THEN, I would ask them to evaluate themselves to determine the most favorable course of action. At the end of the day, one should always treat one's guests with respect and courtesy. I am sure that most of what I have said will be very familiar to you all. Still, I hope that my response is helpful. My best, Laura Petznick, Ph.D. Furniture and Social Historian ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup [log in to unmask] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask] Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our policy is to restrict food and drink in our historic structures, visitor centers, and museums. Visitors are instructed to leave food and drink outside if going on a tour. Because so many people are carrying around bottled water, our interpreters are beginning to get a lot of flak from visitors saying, "It's just water, and I promise not to drink while inside." Interpreters have explained that they do not have the authority to make exceptions and that water can indeed harm certain objects. Does anyone have any guidelines for how to handle visitors who are carrying water bottles (in coat pockets, backpacks, bags, etc.) that are visible to the interpreter? Many thanks. Martha Battle Jackson Registrar North Carolina Historic Sites 4620 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4620 (919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515 [log in to unmask] The opinions expressed may not be those of this agency. [log in to unmask] Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Our policy is to restrict food and drink in our historic structures, visitor centers, and museums.  Visitors are instructed to leave food and drink outside if going on a tour.  Because so many people are carrying around bottled water, our interpreters are beginning to get a lot of flak from visitors saying, "It's just water, and I promise not to drink while inside."
 
Interpreters have explained that they do not have the authority to make exceptions and that water can indeed harm certain objects.  Does anyone have any guidelines for how to handle visitors who are carrying water bottles (in coat pockets, backpacks, bags, etc.) that are visible to the interpreter?
 
Many thanks.
 
 
Martha Battle Jackson
Registrar
North Carolina Historic Sites
4620 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC  27699-4620
(919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515
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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:12:07 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: curator <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Fw: RURAL TEXTILE MUSEUM IN INDIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: curator <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 12:47 AM Subject: Re: RURAL TEXTILE MUSEUM IN INDIA > This sounds like an excellent project. I do know locally of THE LATIMER > QUILT & TEXTILE CENTER in Tillamook, OR, U.S.A. Through many years of > development they now have a Textile Repository of 4200 sq.ft., hold classes > and have a research library and "The completion and restoration of quilts > and textiles is a main focus of the center." I do not know if they have a > website, though you might search in case it was developed recently. They do > have a comparitive collection to match things regionally and a dye garden. > The address is: > THE LATIMER QUILT & TEXTILE CENTER > 2105 Wilson River Loop Road > Tillamook, OR 97141 > Here is the phone #: Best of luck, Diane B. Rice, > Curator North Lincoln County Historical Museum Lincoln City, > OR > (503) 842-8622 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: swasti singh <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 4:42 AM > Subject: RURAL TEXTILE MUSEUM IN INDIA > > > > Hello, > > We would like to introduce ourselves as two design > > graduates( industrial and textile from National > > Institute of Design , Ahmedabad)doing a museum project > > for SEWA- Self Employed Women's Association in > > Ahmedabad, India. > > The Museum is mainly to serve the textile craft center > > located in one of the villages. > > Museum will be of old embroidered textile pieces made > > by the women of the local communities. They will be > > the main users because the museum has to serve to > > revive old embroidery practices, so that the improved > > work fetches more income for them. > > We are interested to know if you know of any such > > rural museum in any other part of the world and their > > success in it. > > Can you suggest interactive sort of activities at the > > museum site in order to make the museum beneficial for > > the local communities. > > We are also keen on knowing about certain factors like > > current preservation techniques for textiles. > > We will be glad to be suggested of books, websites and > > experts regarding the above queries. > > Thanking you, > > Suranjana Sen, Swasti Singh > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > ========================================================> > Important Subscriber Information: > > > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" > (without the quotes). > > > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff > Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:34:46 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Conrad/Caldwell House Museum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A drawer in a table at Biltmore that was supposed to hve been stained with blood from Napoleons' heart! (It was 40 years ago!) At 08:59 AM 03/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual >acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at >supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? Examples >from my experience include "The Amputated Leg of General Sickles" at the >old Army Medical Museum, or the "supposed" 19th Century witch in a lead >sealed bottle mentioned last autumn on this list. The bizarre, the >outre, the acquisition with a folk legend attached (Hope Diamond). Tell >the list! The item need not be on exhibit. Things from the basement like >Yale's collection of pickled brains. Same goes for works of art! Any >good stories accompanying them. Likewise strange curatorial experiences. > >David Gerrick - Information Services >Dayton Lab > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:45:44 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Anne Douglas <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>; from "adouglas" at Tue Mar 21 16:45:44 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" A visit to the American Museum of Natural History in NYC was a recurring field trip in my grammar school days, and the big blue whale hanging from the ceiling was always talked about afterward. I assume it's still hanging there? _______________________________________________________ «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Anne Fuhrman Douglas email: [log in to unmask] Registrar phone: 919-966-5736 Ackland Art Museum fax: 919-966-1400 The University of North Carolina Campus Box 3400 Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3400 U.S.A. -- Begin original message -- > From: Dayton Labs <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:59:14 -0500 > Subject: Most Unforgetable Exhibit > To: [log in to unmask] > Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> > > I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual > acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at > supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:45:07 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Suzanne White <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I remember that the exhibit on human development at the Boston Museum of Science made a huge impression on me as a kid. I distinctly remember that exhibit, as well as one in which you could see a feather falling in air and in a vacuum (compared with a heavier object). Really neat! --Suzanne p.s. the weirdest museum exhibit piece I've ever seen was in a small museum somewhere out west (I've forgotten exactly where). The museum had a very odd assortment of things: coins, license plates, 1950s memorabilia, archaeological artifacts, etc., as well as a number of mounted animals on the walls. Along with the mounted heads was the stuffed rear end of a whitetail deer, with plastic eyes put on either side of the tail, and a mouth under the tail (so that the tail looked like a snout). The label? "Werewolf". ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:56:14 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "David E. Haberstich" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cre/Ev Final Answer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 00-03-15 14:39:37 EST, Ross Weeks, Jr. wrote: << Time to change topics. What about Dr. Laura's views on sexuality? That's a spark for a whole new dialogue on the Old Testament vs. science. >> At the risk of starting something myself, I want to say how grateful I am for the restraint of Museum-Lers in that no one has thus far picked up the bait on this! I think such a discussion would be inappropriate for a list devoted to museum issues. Dr. Laura's views on sexuality concern issues of ethics and morality. Although there are issues of ethics and morality implicit in science--and science clearly has an impact on ethical issues--I think it's generally a mistake to cast religion and science as adversaries. The evolution-creationism debate was a valid discussion for this forum because it stemmed from creationists' objections to the presentation of evidence for evolution in museum exhibits. I think the chief objection to the creationist view is that the Old Testament was never intended as a science textbook, and religious non-creationists would argue that there is no fundamental conflict between religion and science. On the other hand, museum exhibitions on either sexuality or religion (or a third possibility, combining the two) could provoke controversy and would be interesting and valid topics for this list. Since museum-type exhibitions traditionally center on objects or artifacts and their interpretation, I'm not sure how you would logically include Dr. Laura in either an exhibition or in a museum-oriented discussion. (Well, perhaps you could show the famous nude photographs of her...) David Haberstich ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:55:06 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Karrie Porter-Brace <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Blue Whale-AMNH, NYC Comments: cc: Anne Fuhrman Douglas <[log in to unmask]> In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is of particular interest to me as I am Curator of the Logan Museum of Anthropology and Beloit College Alumna. This is where the one of the original preparators of the Blue Whale installation, Roy Chapman Andrews, got his start. Roy was a student here at Beloit, making his tuition payments by doing taxidermy for local hunters. He graduated from Beloit and went to New York where he started in the museum profession as a janitor at the AMNH. He eventually worked his way up to Director of the Museum and Time's Man of the year in 1930. He led a series of expeditions to the Gobi Desert in Mongolia, wrote several articles for National Geographic and is "unofficially" the real person upon whom the character if Indiana Jones was based. Pick up a copy of *Dragon Bones and Dinosaur Eggs: A Photobiography of Explorer Roy Chapman Andrews* by Ann Bausum (another Beloit Alum...) published by National Geographic Society, $17.95. Also available on Amazon.com! At 04:45 PM 3/21/2000 -0500, you wrote: >A visit to the American Museum of Natural History in NYC was a recurring field trip in my grammar >school days, and the big blue whale hanging from the ceiling was always talked about afterward. I >assume it's still hanging there? > >_______________________________________________________ >«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ >Anne Fuhrman Douglas email: [log in to unmask] >Registrar phone: 919-966-5736 >Ackland Art Museum fax: 919-966-1400 >The University of North Carolina >Campus Box 3400 >Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3400 >U.S.A. > Karrie Porter Brace Curator of Anthropology Logan Museum Beloit College 700 College Street Beloit, Wisconsin 53511, USA (608) 363-2119 http://www.beloit.edu/~museum/logan/loganhome.htm "Culture...it's bigger than all of us." ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:39:36 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Roepke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nonprofit use of the Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Hayesville Opera House in Hayesville Ohio has a web site. The address is www.bright.net/~opera/hayesville This site has brought additional visitors that normally would not be reached throught traditional methods. "Williams, Monica" wrote: > I am writing a series of articles about nonprofit use of the Internet. I am > currently looking for examples of cultural organizations that are using > their Web sites to increase membership and/or using e-commerce to sell > tickets, memberships, or other items online. I would also like to interview > staff members about their organization's experience (good or bad) in > planning, developing, or fundraising for a Web site. > > If anyone is interested in sharing their experiences with other nonprofits > and would like more information, please contact me directly. > > Thanks! > Monica Williams > Benton Foundation > www.benton.org > [log in to unmask] > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:31:15 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Olivia Anastasiadis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like the Bird Hall at the Natural History Museum in Los Angeles; they have this weight machine that tells you how much your bones weigh as opposed to your total weight; this way you can compare what a bird's bones weigh against your human bones. I always make my husband stand on it when we visit (after I've taken a turn, of course). O Olivia S. Anastasiadis, Curator Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace 18001 Yorba Linda Boulevard Yorba Linda, CA 92886 (714) 993-5075, ext. 224; Fax (714) 528-0544 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dayton Labs <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Most Unforgetable Exhibit > I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual > acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at > supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? Examples > from my experience include "The Amputated Leg of General Sickles" at the > old Army Medical Museum, or the "supposed" 19th Century witch in a lead > sealed bottle mentioned last autumn on this list. The bizarre, the > outre, the acquisition with a folk legend attached (Hope Diamond). Tell > the list! The item need not be on exhibit. Things from the basement like > Yale's collection of pickled brains. Same goes for works of art! Any > good stories accompanying them. Likewise strange curatorial experiences. > > David Gerrick - Information Services > Dayton Lab > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:44:06 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jennifer Smalheiser <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Masters issue In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was also going to ask a similar question but mine has to do with a one month intensive certificate program at NYU. It focuses on arts administration with courses in management, marketing, fundraising, finanical management and the law. How useful or helpful would a pprogram like this be for a college gradute, hoping to get her foot in the door in the museum field in NYC? ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:31:00 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Stephanie Moore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A two-headed cow and wishing well at the Dalton Gang Hideout and Museum in Meade, Kansas. There is a fun 'escape' tunnel (apparently the Daltons used it to evade the law) that leads from an old prairie house to the gift shop. The tunnel, which was then 'long, dark and mysterious', is now about a 30 second walk... [log in to unmask] > -- Begin original message -- > > > From: Dayton Labs <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:59:14 -0500 > > Subject: Most Unforgetable Exhibit > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Reply-To: Museum discussion list > <[log in to unmask]> > > > > I would like to pose a question to the group. What is > your most unusual > > acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and > talk about at > > supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later > remember? > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may > obtain detailed information about the listserv commands > by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line > e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:24:48 +0000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Boylan P <[log in to unmask]> Subject: MARCH 2000 ISSUE OF "it - INFORMATION ON TRAINING" NEWSLETTER OF ICTOP NOW AVAILABLE ON LINE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Volume 16 (2), March 2000, issue of the half-yearly newsletter of the ICOM Training of Personnel Committee (ICTOP): "it - Information on Training" is now available on line, and can be read or down-loaded in PDF (Adobe Acrobat) format on the ICTOP web site: http://www.icom.org/ictop/ Topics covered include details of ICTOP's coming Annual Meeting: "Focus on the Learner" at the University of Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, 23rd to 29th May 2000 - all interested professionals and educators welcome - together with news of the Committee on Museum Professional Training (COMPT) of the AAM, and of ICOM reforms. Patrick Boylan (Chairperson, ICOM - ICTOP) ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:19:43 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lee <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgettable Exhibit In-Reply-To: Conrad/Caldwell House Museum <[log in to unmask]>'s message of Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:34:46 -0500 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) I worked in a small rural historical house, were they kept everything with the remotest connection to their area. One local couple had been on vacation 1000 miles away and passed a convoy of circus trucks that had overturned. So they proudly presently the museum with a fairly large chunk of elephant skin, from an victim of the crash. As Collection Manager, I would have had it up for deaccessioning, but we would have fought over what to do with it. Lee Dillon, in Minneapolis, Minnesota ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:50:45 PST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Beth-Anee Johnson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Most Unforgetable Exhibit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The museum I worked at as a graduate student had a maze installed for several months about 3 years ago. We changed the configuration every few weeks. Kids and adults are still asking when we are going to have it back. Especially around Halloween. We decorated with cobwebs, blacklights and costumed manequins. BIG Hit! Beth-Anee Johnson >I would like to pose a question to the group. What is your most unusual >acquisition? What is the one thing the kids go home and talk about at >supper? The exhibit that people thirty years later remember? Examples >from my experience include "The Amputated Leg of General Sickles" at the >old Army Medical Museum, or the "supposed" 19th Century witch in a lead >sealed bottle mentioned last autumn on this list. The bizarre, the >outre, the acquisition with a folk legend attached (Hope Diamond). Tell >the list! The item need not be on exhibit. Things from the basement like >Yale's collection of pickled brains. Same goes for works of art! Any >good stories accompanying them. Likewise strange curatorial experiences. > >David Gerrick - Information Services >Dayton Lab > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail >message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:46:51 PST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jerrie Clarke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Water Bottles on Tour Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed We allow our patrons to carry their capped water bottles with them when touring the Museum. We give those with open containers, or lidded soda pop or latte cups, the option of finishing their drink before entering or leaving them at the reception desk for retrieval later. They all seem to understand and as far as I've heard, there have been no problems. You have good front attendants, Martha. My problem is getting our attendants to enforce the no food or drink rule. Jerrie Jerrie Clarke Curator of Collections Valdez Museum http://www.alaska.net/~vldzmuse/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:50:56 PST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Matthew Henning <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [Re: Most Unforgettable Exhibit] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When talking about most unforgetable exhibit, it brought to mind a museum I use to work at. It was a small museum with some intersting exhibits. However, they were so focused on exhibits from the city(a very small city) that some of the artifacts were embarassing. Two of which I can remember were a spoon and shoe sole that had been found under so an so's porch. 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