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Amen. Well put. Thank you.
At 02:12 PM 3/14/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I write as a Christian who has worked at both a natural science museum and
>an aquarium, where most of my colleagues have come from various scientific
>backgrounds (my own is in art) and I have frequently been the only person in
>my department who has a strong faith in God and creationism as illustrated
>by the Bible. In my years working in the scientific community what has
>saddened me most is the need for everyone (and I don't use this
>generalization lightly) to separate the ideologies into either "creationism"
>or "evolution"; to separate religion from science, and vise versa. Somehow,
>especially in the latter half of the twentieth century, it became the norm
>to assume that if one followed the discipline of science, one could not also
>have a definite belief in God, because the one negated the other.
>Extremists in both camps have polarized the two even further so that now we
>are forced to side ourselves on a debate begun by ignorance - from both
>viewpoints mind you - instead of looking at the issue in a three dimensional
>way, with a true discourse informing our opinions. I am a Christian, of
>devout faith, who believes that the world and its inhabitants have evolved
>since their inception. I teach students of sharks millions of years old, of
>continents separated over eons, of adaptations by various animals to their
>environments. I teach these things not because I have to, but because I
>believe them, because I believe that God created a universe infinitely more
>complex than any man could hope to explain. Millions, billions of years. I
>do not know. What matters most is the origin.
>
>Many major discoveries in science have been by men and women with a deep
>faith in their god, in their creator. Sir Isaac Newton, a devout Christian,
>considered his spiritual writings vastly superior to his scientific ones.
>Einstein felt that his theories were but a reflection of God's truth.
>Kepler. Pasteur. Boyle. Learned people who sought to explain God's word,
>not to deny it. I have a friend who is a believer and a chemist, a man who
>looks at this life in its most elemental forms, who is baffled by this
>separation that we have created and angered by the suggestion that to
>believe in Christ is to be either an unintelligent buffoon or a sheepish
>regurgitator. I agree. I have seen the label "educated" worn as a defense
>by men and women who profess to be enlightened in the ways of the world who
>could not explain to me even the most rudimentary of scientific theories.
>Yet these same people will entrench themselves on the side of "science" when
>it is mentioned in the same breath as religion, without an understanding of
>either side's position. And yes, I have also known Christians who, after
>proclaiming themselves open-minded and worldly, will refuse to accompany me
>to an art exhibition because the art in question does not fit into their
>notion of what art should be - paintings of lambs and landscapes. But such
>is the way when living in a fallen and divided world: we have become a
>people whose first purpose is to drown out the other's voice before we seek
>to hear it. The question we should ask ourselves in this debate is not who
>is wrong, but why are we not willing to listen? Are we so afraid of what we
>might hear? I should hope not.
>
>
>Adrian Perez
>
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Amen. Well put. Thank you.
At 02:12 PM 3/14/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I write as a Christian who has worked at both a natural science
museum and
>an aquarium, where most of my colleagues have come from various
scientific
>backgrounds (my own is in art) and I have frequently been the
only person in
>my department who has a strong faith in God and creationism as
illustrated
>by the Bible. In my years working in the scientific
community what has
>saddened me most is the need for everyone (and I don't use
this
>generalization lightly) to separate the ideologies into either
"creationism"
>or "evolution"; to separate religion from science, and
vise versa. Somehow,
>especially in the latter half of the twentieth century, it
became the norm
>to assume that if one followed the discipline of science, one
could not also
>have a definite belief in God, because the one negated the
other.
>Extremists in both camps have polarized the two even further so
that now we
>are forced to side ourselves on a debate begun by ignorance -
from both
>viewpoints mind you - instead of looking at the issue in a three
dimensional
>way, with a true discourse informing our opinions. I am a
Christian, of
>devout faith, who believes that the world and its inhabitants
have evolved
>since their inception. I teach students of sharks millions
of years old, of
>continents separated over eons, of adaptations by various
animals to their
>environments. I teach these things not because I have to,
but because I
>believe them, because I believe that God created a universe
infinitely more
>complex than any man could hope to explain. Millions,
billions of years. I
>do not know. What matters most is the origin.
>
>Many major discoveries in science have been by men and women
with a deep
>faith in their god, in their creator. Sir Isaac Newton, a
devout Christian,
>considered his spiritual writings vastly superior to his
scientific ones.
>Einstein felt that his theories were but a reflection of God's
truth.
>Kepler. Pasteur. Boyle. Learned people who
sought to explain God's word,
>not to deny it. I have a friend who is a believer and a
chemist, a man who
>looks at this life in its most elemental forms, who is baffled
by this
>separation that we have created and angered by the suggestion
that to
>believe in Christ is to be either an unintelligent buffoon or a
sheepish
>regurgitator. I agree. I have seen the label
"educated" worn as a defense
>by men and women who profess to be enlightened in the ways of
the world who
>could not explain to me even the most rudimentary of scientific
theories.
>Yet these same people will entrench themselves on the side of
"science" when
>it is mentioned in the same breath as religion, without an
understanding of
>either side's position. And yes, I have also known
Christians who, after
>proclaiming themselves open-minded and worldly, will refuse to
accompany me
>to an art exhibition because the art in question does not fit
into their
>notion of what art should be - paintings of lambs and
landscapes. But such
>is the way when living in a fallen and divided world: we
have become a
>people whose first purpose is to drown out the other's voice
before we seek
>to hear it. The question we should ask ourselves in this
debate is not who
>is wrong, but why are we not willing to listen? Are we so
afraid of what we
>might hear? I should hope not.
>
>
>Adrian Perez
>
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Most commonly, "creationists" is used as shorthand for "scientific
creationists", "young earth creationists", etc., as opposed to
creationists who believe the universe and its laws were created by a
deity and that the history of the universe is a result of that
beginning and those laws. Belief or disbelief concerning the latter
is philosophical, not scientific, because science by definition has
no mechanism to address the supernatural. The problems arise with
an attempt to invade the territory of science (the natural world) by
claiming that science upholds their religious view of the natural
world in cases where clearly science does no such thing. Science
cannot, for example, prove that there wasn't a SUPERNATURALLY
imposed, worldwide flood--but science can (and does) say that the
SCIENTIFIC evidence shows no evidence in favor of such a flood and
scientifically conclusive evidence against such a flood.
Numerous scientists consider themselves religious and, in the "in
the beginning" sense, creationists (but few as young earth
creationists, etc.). For educators, I might suggest the web site
for the National Center for Science Education
(http://www.natcenscied.org/welcome.html).
"Perez, Adrian" wrote:
>
> I write as a Christian who has worked at both a natural science museum and
> an aquarium, where most of my colleagues have come from various scientific
> backgrounds (my own is in art) and I have frequently been the only person in
> my department who has a strong faith in God and creationism as illustrated
> by the Bible. In my years working in the scientific community what has
> saddened me most is the need for everyone (and I don't use this
> generalization lightly) to separate the ideologies into either "creationism"
> or "evolution"; to separate religion from science, and vise versa. ...
Art Harris
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University of Texas at El Paso, El Paso, TX 79968-0915
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Ok, we've had a nice debate about the nature of science, the validity of the
theory of evolution, the validity of other explanations of the origin of
species, the rights of freedom of speech and freedom of religion, theories
of education, etc.
I think such a debate is an *important* topic. I also think it's a bit like
the beating of a dead horse. We all have dearly-held opinions, we all
believe our beliefs are far and away the best, and *none* of us is changing
her opinion based on this discussion. Time for a new topic (in my opinion,
based on my world view).
Robin
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> Apparently Stephen and Suzanne have forgotten that the classroom is no
> longer a one-way path of information. The dialogue inspired by such "hotly
> debated" topics (I submit as evidence the Museum-L listserv) resulted in
> questions by students relating to the Bible and its claim that man has only
> existed for 6,000 years (more or less.) The professor did not introduce the
> Bible as part of his lecture on evolution, and merely added his "two-cents
> worth" after being asked.
> Carol
Carol,
That the professor was merely responding to a *student's* question about
the Bible was not at all clear from your original post, Carol (see
original post pasted below). Indeed, it sounded from your post like the
professor was expounding on his own religious beliefs. There is a big
difference between answering someone's questions and bringing up personal
religious views *without* anyone asking about religious issues in a
science class.
(I certainly think of the college classroom as a place for dialogue, by
the way. My undergraduate and graduate studies in geology would hardly
have been as exciting as they have been otherwise.)
That *is* interesting that your professor was Muslim. Did he also explain
the Koran's views of things?
--Suzanne
(the original post:)
"I took college biology from a creationist. He handled his religious
beliefs very diplomatically. He taught textbook evolution, and added the
mathematical improbability that life could have spontaneously generated
itself (something like 10 to the 27th power). He suggested the
discrepancies between the timeline in the Bible and actual scientific
evidence are related to non-scientific time being kept or understood when
the Bible was written. Then he allowed us to decide or believe what we
wanted."
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Dear Colleague:
As you know, significant changes in the definition and function of art
museums are reshaping the traditional role of curators. Cultural influences
and economic demands have changed the way exhibitions are interpreted and
marketed. While the profession assumes greater administrative
responsibilities, the challenge to balance curatorial, institutional, and
personal priorities has inevitably become more difficult.
The American Federation of Arts recently convened a steering committee of
distinguished art museum curators to evaluate a proposal for an annual,
national conference to address some of these issues. After much discussion,
the committee strongly endorsed the idea, suggested a format, and encouraged
us to proceed. The Curators Forum was born.
The fundamental goals of the Curators Forum are to provide an opportunity
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The first annual Curators Forum is tentatively scheduled for a spring 2001
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...oops, didn't mean to use your name so many times in that first
sentence, Carol. :) No offense intended.
--Suzanne
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OOOPS! Is somebody ignoring some the scientific (oh,
damn! There I go with that dirty word again!! I must
remember to take the "S" word out of my vocabulary)
data of the recent past whereby certain species are
born all one gender but will morph to the opposite
gender for breeding purposes.
Albeit, it's the same species, but just as there are
days when I'm not sure the males of our species are
from the same planet, much less the same species, I
find it a rather incredible phenomenon.
As I recall, the creatures (which I believe are either
fish or amphibia) start out female and only become
male if it's time to make new members of the species
so as to preclude extinction.
--- John Martinson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have read no books or research
> reports going back in time to
> show one such animal or life form ever evolving into
> another. Yes, certain
> species have "adapted"
> to their environment but not have "changed" into
> another "new" species.
Then for two like objects to arise from
> the swamp gas at the same
> time to mate, produce offspring..and go on to
> multiply and replenish the
> earth..is impossible.
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Well, let's see..close to 4:50 p.m. EST. I vote for starting the morrow
with a discussion of "how did this begin anyway?"
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< Time for a new topic (in my opinion,
> based on my world view).
>
> Robin
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No, he did not explain the Koran because, unfortunately, no one asked.
Carol
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From: Suzanne White <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Creationism v. Evolution
>> Apparently Stephen and Suzanne have forgotten that the classroom is no
>> longer a one-way path of information. The dialogue inspired by such
"hotly
>> debated" topics (I submit as evidence the Museum-L listserv) resulted in
>> questions by students relating to the Bible and its claim that man has
only
>> existed for 6,000 years (more or less.) The professor did not introduce
the
>> Bible as part of his lecture on evolution, and merely added his
"two-cents
>> worth" after being asked.
>
>> Carol
>
>Carol,
>
>That the professor was merely responding to a *student's* question about
>the Bible was not at all clear from your original post, Carol (see
>original post pasted below). Indeed, it sounded from your post like the
>professor was expounding on his own religious beliefs. There is a big
>difference between answering someone's questions and bringing up personal
>religious views *without* anyone asking about religious issues in a
>science class.
>
> (I certainly think of the college classroom as a place for dialogue, by
>the way. My undergraduate and graduate studies in geology would hardly
>have been as exciting as they have been otherwise.)
>
>That *is* interesting that your professor was Muslim. Did he also explain
>the Koran's views of things?
>
>--Suzanne
>
>(the original post:)
>
>"I took college biology from a creationist. He handled his religious
>beliefs very diplomatically. He taught textbook evolution, and added the
>mathematical improbability that life could have spontaneously generated
>itself (something like 10 to the 27th power). He suggested the
>discrepancies between the timeline in the Bible and actual scientific
>evidence are related to non-scientific time being kept or understood when
>the Bible was written. Then he allowed us to decide or believe what we
>wanted."
>
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Standing on my chair, waiving my arm wildly in the air
(stopping only to check to see when was the last time
I shaved under my arms, and then realizing it was
recent enough I can keep raising my arm with pride), I
blurt out, in earnest animation:
"I Know! I Know! I Know! Call on me."
Disgusted with my impatience, the esteemed Mr. Weeks
looks around the room for another to call upon and,
sensing the rest had grown bored, finally calls upon
me, wherein I reply:
"It started with the discussion about the Board of
Education banning museum sites in schools in New York
City . . . "
And then, not being able to behave myself for more
than five seconds, I quickly add:
"Because of the little Nazi who would be senator!"
I'm going to my room, now. Must be time for afternoon
drugs.
--- Ross Weeks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well, let's see..close to 4:50 p.m. EST. I vote for
> starting the morrow
> with a discussion of "how did this begin anyway?"
>
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YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!! NOW I REMEMBER!!!! Praise Be!
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To: <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Creationism v. Evolution--a'right already!
> Standing on my chair, waiving my arm wildly in the air
> (stopping only to check to see when was the last time
> I shaved under my arms, and then realizing it was
> recent enough I can keep raising my arm with pride), I
> blurt out, in earnest animation:
>
> "I Know! I Know! I Know! Call on me."
>
> Disgusted with my impatience, the esteemed Mr. Weeks
> looks around the room for another to call upon and,
> sensing the rest had grown bored, finally calls upon
> me, wherein I reply:
>
> "It started with the discussion about the Board of
> Education banning museum sites in schools in New York
> City . . . "
>
> And then, not being able to behave myself for more
> than five seconds, I quickly add:
>
> "Because of the little Nazi who would be senator!"
>
> I'm going to my room, now. Must be time for afternoon
> drugs.
>
>
>
> --- Ross Weeks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Well, let's see..close to 4:50 p.m. EST. I vote for
> > starting the morrow
> > with a discussion of "how did this begin anyway?"
> >
>
>
> ====> Indigo Nights
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However this discussion started, I also want to thank Adrian Perez for his eloquent response to it.
Sarah Wood-Clark
Museum Registrar
Kansas State Historical Society
6425 SW 6 Ave.
Topeka, KS 66615
(785)272-8681, ext. 407
Fax (785)272-8682
TTY (785)272-8683
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Wouldn't it be great if the Curators Forum could take place at the same time
and venue as the American Association of Museums' Annual Meeting (next
spring it will be in St. Louis)? By coordinating their efforts with the
AAM, the AFA could make a significant contribution in bringing the
curatorial perspective to the museum community as a whole.
Janice Klein
Director
Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
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From: John Nichols <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: Art Museum Curators Forum and Survey
>American Federation of Arts
>
>March 14, 2000
>
>Dear Colleague:
>
>As you know, significant changes in the definition and function of art
>museums are reshaping the traditional role of curators. Cultural influences
>and economic demands have changed the way exhibitions are interpreted and
>marketed. While the profession assumes greater administrative
>responsibilities, the challenge to balance curatorial, institutional, and
>personal priorities has inevitably become more difficult.
>
>The American Federation of Arts recently convened a steering committee of
>distinguished art museum curators to evaluate a proposal for an annual,
>national conference to address some of these issues. After much
discussion,
>the committee strongly endorsed the idea, suggested a format, and
encouraged
>us to proceed. The Curators Forum was born.
>
>The fundamental goals of the Curators Forum are to provide an opportunity
>for discussion and exchange; disseminate knowledge and experience within
the
>field, and facilitate a dialogue that will continue beyond the conference.
>The first annual Curators Forum is tentatively scheduled for a spring 2001
>debut in New York City, as a two-and-a-half-day conference. A program
>including a combination of panel discussions, workshops, and breakout
groups
>was recommended.
>
>The rest is up to you. We are seeking the advice of curators across the
>nation as a vital part of our planning process. Let your voice be heard.
>Please take a moment to request a copy of the proposed program and survey.
>You must include your name, title, institution, and address to receive a
>copy.
>
>Many thanks for your time and consideration of our request.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>John W. Nichols
>Director of Museum Services
>American Federation of Arts
>41 East 65 Street
>New York, NY 10010-6594
>
>E-mail [log in to unmask]
>Phone 800-232-0270
>Fax 212-861-2487
>Web www.afaweb.org
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The CIDOC/CHIN conference will be held August 22-26, 2000 (please note
slight
change in dates) at the Westin Hotel in Ottawa, Canada.
We invite you to submit your proposals for sessions related to the overall
theme
of the conference, ideas for papers and panel discussions, or for the
overall
CIDOC / CHIN 2000 conference, including events. On-line submission forms
are now
available at the conference Web site (www.chin.gc.ca/cidoc).
Please visit the conference web site for program information. If you have
any
questions, please contact Kati Geber at [log in to unmask]
We look forward to your participation with enthusiasm!
----------------------
Le congrès CIDOC/RCIP aura lieu du 22 au 26 août 2000 (veuillez constater
la
petite modification de dates) à l?Hôtel Westin à Ottawa, Canada.
Nous vous invitons à soumettre des propositions pour les séances, ayant
trait au
thème général de la conférence, des idées pour des allocutions et des
discussions, ou pour la conférence du CIDOC/RCIP 2000 en général, y compris
les
activités spéciales. Les formulaires en direct sont maintenant disponibles
dans
le site Internet du congrès (www.rcip.gc.ca/cidoc).
Si vous désirez obtenir de plus amples renseignements, veuillez visiter le
site
Internet du congrès. Pour toute question, n?hésitez pas à communiquer avec
Kati
Geber à [log in to unmask] .
Nous attendons votre participation avec enthousiasme !
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========================================================================Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:35:15 -0600
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From: Aandrea Stang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Internship Positions
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TWO SUMMER INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES
AVAILABLE AT THE 18TH STREET ARTS COMPLEX
Funded by the Getty Grants Program: Grants to Los Angeles Area Museums and
Visual Arts Organizations for Multicultural Undergraduate Internships
*****************************************************
PRESENTING PROGRAM INTERN
JOB OVERVIEW
The Intern will work with 18th Street staff and the traffic report editors
on the post-production aspects of the 1999/00. S/he will also work with
staff on the planning phases of Arts Fest 2000 and the Res Artis 2000
International Conference. The intern would also assist with all aspects of
the 18th Street Arts Complex Gallery.
DUTIES
The intern will be asked to work with the editors to gain broad exposure for
the 1999/00 issue of the traffic report. This would include compiling a
distribution list and coordinating the distribution. The intern will work
with the editor and the webmaster to put the 99/00 issue online. S/he will
also work with staff on the planning phases of the Arts Fest 2000 and the
Res Artis 2000 International Conference including scheduling artists and
venues, preparing materials and securing vendors. Another component of this
internship includes assisting with all aspects of 18th Street's Gallery
including preparing materials for exhibition, installing work and promoting
events. S/he will also work on updating the 18th Street database and
provide general operations and office assistance. In addition, the intern
will be asked to coordinate meeting materials, maintain files and to sit in
on meetings and take notes.
RESIDENCY PROGRAM INTERN
JOB OVERVIEW
18th Street Arts Complex seeks an intern to assist with different aspects of
the Residency Program. 18th Street¹s Residency Program is similar to an
arts incubator, in that the Complex provides subsidized live and work space
for organizations and individuals, a stimulating and supportive environment,
free administrative consultation services, and a co-op that includes office
equipment, volunteers, and meeting/event facilities. The intern may assist
Resident artists with projects as yet to be determined.
DUTIES
The Intern will work with the Co-Directors on several aspects of the
organization¹s Residency Program. This will include working with artists
and arts organization to create appropriate Residency Service Exchange
Projects for the 2000/01 year. The intern will assist staff in marketing
residents and presenting slide talks, readings, and resident artists' work.
S/he will also work on updating the 18th Street website and database and
provide general operations and office assistance. In addition, s/he will be
asked to coordinate meeting materials, maintain files and to sit in on
meetings and take notes. If appropriate, the intern will assist one or two
artists in the production of their projects.
*****************************************************
REQUIRED EXPERIENCE
1. Excellent communication skills
2. Excellent research skills
3. Macintosh computer skills
4. Some Desktop publishing and computer graphics experience desired
REQUIREMENTS
Internship opportunities are available for members of groups
underrepresented in the professions related to museums and the visual arts:
individuals of African American, Asian, Latino/Hispanic, Native American,
and Pacific Islander descent. To apply, candidates (1) must be currently
enrolled as an undergraduate and have completed at least one semester of
college by June 2000, (2) will not graduate before December 2000, (3) must
be a resident of or attending college in the Los Angeles area.
INFORMATION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION
18th Street Arts Complex is a non-profit arts center, supporting artists and
arts organizations dedicated to issues of community and diversity in
contemporary society. 18th Street maintains four programs that reflect its
mission as an incubator/learning center through the arts: a Residency
Program for emerging Los Angeles artists, an International
Artist-in-Residence Exchange Program, public events and programming, and
Arts Education programs for youths in our surrounding communities. Our
support services seek to enable emerging artists and arts organizations to
reach their professional goals. Housed in a complex of five buildings in
Santa Monica, we've been the home base for some of the most experimental and
innovative art being made in the United States today.
TO APPLY FOR EITHER POSITION
Send resume and cover letter by May 1, 2000 to:
Aandrea Stang, Grants Manager
18th Street Arts Complex
1639 18th Street
Santa Monica, CA 90404
Fax: (310) 453-4347
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Internship Positions
TWO SUMMER INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES
AVAILABLE AT THE 18TH STREET ARTS COMPLEX
Funded by the Getty Grants Program: Grants to Los Angeles Area Museums and Visual Arts Organizations for Multicultural Undergraduate Internships
*****************************************************
PRESENTING PROGRAM INTERN
JOB OVERVIEW
The Intern will work with 18th Street staff and the traffic report editors on the post-production aspects of the 1999/00. S/he will also work with staff on the planning phases of Arts Fest 2000 and the Res Artis 2000 International Conference. The intern would also assist with all aspects of the 18th Street Arts Complex Gallery.
DUTIES
The intern will be asked to work with the editors to gain broad exposure for the 1999/00 issue of the traffic report. This would include compiling a distribution list and coordinating the distribution. The intern will work with the editor and the webmaster to put the 99/00 issue online. S/he will also work with staff on the planning phases of the Arts Fest 2000 and the Res Artis 2000 International Conference including scheduling artists and venues, preparing materials and securing vendors. Another component of this internship includes assisting with all aspects of 18th Street's Gallery including preparing materials for exhibition, installing work and promoting events. S/he will also work on updating the 18th Street database and provide general operations and office assistance. In addition, the intern will be asked to coordinate meeting materials, maintain files and to sit in on meetings and take notes.
RESIDENCY PROGRAM INTERN
JOB OVERVIEW
18th Street Arts Complex seeks an intern to assist with different aspects of the Residency Program. 18th Street¹s Residency Program is similar to an arts incubator, in that the Complex provides subsidized live and work space for organizations and individuals, a stimulating and supportive environment, free administrative consultation services, and a co-op that includes office equipment, volunteers, and meeting/event facilities. The intern may assist Resident artists with projects as yet to be determined.
DUTIES
The Intern will work with the Co-Directors on several aspects of the organization¹s Residency Program. This will include working with artists and arts organization to create appropriate Residency Service Exchange Projects for the 2000/01 year. The intern will assist staff in marketing residents and presenting slide talks, readings, and resident artists' work. S/he will also work on updating the 18th Street website and database and provide general operations and office assistance. In addition, s/he will be asked to coordinate meeting materials, maintain files and to sit in on meetings and take notes. If appropriate, the intern will assist one or two artists in the production of their projects.
*****************************************************
REQUIRED EXPERIENCE
1. Excellent communication skills
2. Excellent research skills
3. Macintosh computer skills
4. Some Desktop publishing and computer graphics experience desired
REQUIREMENTS
Internship opportunities are available for members of groups underrepresented in the professions related to museums and the visual arts: individuals of African American, Asian, Latino/Hispanic, Native American, and Pacific Islander descent. To apply, candidates (1) must be currently enrolled as an undergraduate and have completed at least one semester of college by June 2000, (2) will not graduate before December 2000, (3) must be a resident of or attending college in the Los Angeles area.
INFORMATION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION
18th Street Arts Complex is a non-profit arts center, supporting artists and arts organizations dedicated to issues of community and diversity in contemporary society. 18th Street maintains four programs that reflect its mission as an incubator/learning center through the arts: a Residency Program for emerging Los Angeles artists, an International Artist-in-Residence Exchange Program, public events and programming, and Arts Education programs for youths in our surrounding communities. Our support services seek to enable emerging artists and arts organizations to reach their professional goals. Housed in a complex of five buildings in Santa Monica, we've been the home base for some of the most experimental and innovative art being made in the United States today.
TO APPLY FOR EITHER POSITION
Send resume and cover letter by May 1, 2000 to:
Aandrea Stang, Grants Manager
18th Street Arts Complex
1639 18th Street
Santa Monica, CA 90404
Fax: (310) 453-4347
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Subject: Re: Teaching Creationism
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Shortly after the decision of the Kansas State Board of Education to remove
evolution from the materials tested in standardized exams (they did not
formally remove evolution from the curriculum but not testing on it is
effectively the same thing), I did a very substantial review of the issue
which I published in The Informal Learning Review, no. 38, September-October
1999. The article is titled "What's going on with Evolution?" In addition to
examining the recent situation in Kansas, I looked at the various current
incarnations of creationism, including a purportedly non-religious version
called "intelligent design." In addition, I did an exhaustive web search for
creationist museums (found 6) and provided a list of URLs that explore the
creation-evolution issue from various (and opposing) perspectives.
Back issues including this article still are available for $10 at
[log in to unmask] I also urge readers to look at the web site of the
National Center for Science Education, an organization dedicated to the
scientific presentation of evolution in schools and other learning venues in
the US (www.natcenscied.org).
Mac West
Informal Learning Experiences, Inc.
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========================================================================Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:33:38 -0400
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From: Lee Jolliffe <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: Jolliffe & Associates - Orient Hotel
Subject: Economuseums and the development of rural tourism
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Dear Colleagues,
In the last few weeks there was a reference to economuseums on the list
with a link that I was unable to access. Now I am working on a
conference paper on the role of culture in the development of rural
tourism, using the Evangeline Region of Prince Edward Island as a case
study. This is where PEI's first economuseum, Economusee de la
Courtepointe is located in Wellington. Would appreciate any information
on the development of these museums and especially references to
anything written about their role in tourism development.
Many thanks,
Lee Jolliffe
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