Ok, we've had a nice debate about the nature of science, the validity of the theory of evolution, the validity of other explanations of the origin of species, the rights of freedom of speech and freedom of religion, theories of education, etc. I think such a debate is an *important* topic. I also think it's a bit like the beating of a dead horse. We all have dearly-held opinions, we all believe our beliefs are far and away the best, and *none* of us is changing her opinion based on this discussion. Time for a new topic (in my opinion, based on my world view). Robin Robin K Panza [log in to unmask] Collection Manager, Section of Birds ph: 412-622-3255 Carnegie Museum of Natural History fax: 412-622-8837 4400 Forbes Ave. Pittsburgh PA 15213-4008 USA ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).