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y of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:26:04 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Michael Cogswell <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Queens College, CUNY Subject: Job post #2: Audio Preservationist Museum-L subscribers: Please note the following personnel vacancy notice. Please excuse any cross postings. Thanks. Michael Cogswell Louis Armstrong House and Archives Queens College,CUNY AUDIO PRESERVATIONIST. The Louis Armstrong House and Archives seeks an audio preservationist who has (1) familiarity with traditional jazz repertoire; (2) degree or formal training in audio engineering, (3) active membership in professional societies such as AES or ARSC; (4) professional experience with AACR2, MARC format, or other cataloging formats; (6) previous experience with Microsoft Access. SCOPE OF WORK: The Louis Armstrong Archives holds hundreds of rare or unique recordings, many of which were made by Louis Armstrong on his home audio equipment. The Audio Preservationist is responsible for the copying and cataloging of recordings in the collections of the Louis Armstrong Archives. DUTIES: (1) Conduct preservation copying of reel-to-reel tapes, acetate discs, transcription discs, and other such recordings in the collections of the Louis Armstrong Archives following accepted archival practice; tasks include but are not limited to repairing slices, filtering noise, checking pitch, and recording preservation copies on 10-inch reels; (2) Identify unlabeled spoken word and musical recordings; (3) Create user copies of recordings in the Louis Armstrong Archives on analog cassette, DAT, or other appropriate medium; (4) Catalog and label materials following established procedures of the Louis Armstrong Archives; (5) Supervise student assistants, volunteers, or other personnel to assist with preservation copying and cataloging; (6) Recommend the purchase of additional audio equipment; Compose and process bid requests, purchase orders, payment requests or other paperwork required to acquire equipment; (7) Advise the Director on audio preservation policies and procedures; and (8) other duties as assigned. QUALIFICATIONS: (1) high school diploma; (2) at least four years of experience in the preservation of analog recordings; (3) previous experience working with analog reel-to-reel tape and acetate discs; (4) ability to lift and move at least twenty-five pounds; (5) good interpersonal skills; and (6) three letters of recommendation. This is a full-time position (35 hours per week) for the duration of the preservation project. The project is expected to last for two years. Salary is $35,500 per year plus benefits. TO APPLY: Send c.v. and three letters of recommendation to: Michael Cogswell, Louis Armstrong House and Archives, Queens College, 65-30 Kissena Blvd., Flushing, NY 11367. All materials must be received by 5 pm. on 29 March 2000. The Research Foundation of the City University of New York is an equal opportunity/affirmative action/Americans with Disabilities Act employer. ********************************* Michael Cogswell Louis Armstrong House and Archives Queens College, CUNY 718-997-3670 (Tel.) 718-997-3677 (Fax) [log in to unmask] ********************************* Visit our web site: www.satchmo.net ********************************* ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:26:33 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ron Fellows <[log in to unmask]> Subject: AIA San Diego Comments: To: AIA-L <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Listers: We are back from a glorious tour of Egypt and have filled all the orders for centimeter scales that came in during our two week absence. We still have more, ready to deliver on receipt of your order. The centimeter scales, approved by the National Park Service Museum Management Program, are used by archaeologists, universities, museums and others all over the world to illustrate object size in photographs. The set includes one of each 19x3cm and 12x2cm plastic scales. See the illustration at http://www.theglyph.com/scales.html or reply by E-mail for information. Ron Fellows, CM, Editor, The Glyph Archaeological Institute of America, San Diego [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:13:43 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Claire Pillsbury <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Kids' Bk Illus. exhibit needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Manhattan Children's Museum in NYC regularly does childrens book illustration exhibits. Call them to see if they have suggestions for you. Claire Pillsbury Exhibit Developer Connecticut Historical Society 860-236-5621 x 257 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:27:29 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Claire Pillsbury <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 2oth Century Toys, books about toys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I second the recommendation for Gary Cross' book Kid's Stuff. Two others that are interesting: 1) Miriam Formanek Burnell's book, Made to Play House: Dolls and the Commercialization of American Girlhood, 1830 - 1930. 2) Henry Jenkins' book, Barbie to Mortal Combat: Gender and Computer Games Claire Pillsbury Exhibit Developer Connecticut Historical Society 860-236-5621 x 257 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:58 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Gary Acord <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: bar-coding In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right. i'm am trying to determine if there is a barcode standard that is generally used more than others within the museum community. for the very purpose of interoperability. i would like to be sure that a barcode label on one of my pieces could be read by most other institutions. Gary Acord [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Michael A. Lewis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 11:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: bar-coding Charles Gruchy wrote: > We are currently looking into using barcodes and the info I have is the > following: > There are standards that the barcodes use to ensure that the numbers the > bars represent are read by the readers. The issue for the barcodes is how > they are linked to an institution's database and to the specific fields > within the database. The numbers in the various fields in an institution's > database are the ones that the barcodes represent. Hence, unless there is > some form of standardization between various institutions' databases, > barcode numbers will not represent the same thing in different institutions. > Perhaps the more germane question is "Is there a standard database?" > A bar code reader is merely another in-out device that enters data into the computer. It is no different than your keyboard. The numbers that the bar code reader interprets from the bar code correspond to the alphanumeric sequence you use to identify the objects in your collections, that is the catalog and/or accession numbers used in your database. There is no need to have a standardized barcode system any more than there is a need to have a standardized accession/cataloging system. Each institution has their own system based on past history and current needs. the barcode reader and subsequent software need only comply with you existing accessioning system. Michael A. Lewis Archaeology Collections Manager University of Alaska Museum ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:39:45 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Kara J. Hurst" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [Fwd: Help for the art layperson] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_YpY7UkW31CXz2jO4rXEXuA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_YpY7UkW31CXz2jO4rXEXuA) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creatorM4F5353; x-mac-typeT455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just thought I'd pass this information along for anyone else that might be interested. Kara J. Hurst --Boundary_(ID_YpY7UkW31CXz2jO4rXEXuA) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-path: [log in to unmask] Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by iris.services.ou.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.1999.06.13.00.20) with ESMTP id <[log in to unmask]> for hurs9936@sims-ms-daemon (ORCPT rfc822;[log in to unmask]); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:22:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [log in to unmask] by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id 2.64.9bff5d (4235) for <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:22:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Help for the art layperson To: [log in to unmask] Message-id: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Determining the binding medium (acrylic etc.) by just looking at the artwork is very difficult even for an experienced person and often leads to wrong interpretations. I have worked for 26 years as conservation scientist and while I sometimes hazard a guess I would never state my assumptions as a fact without backing it up with an analysis. Appearances can be very deceiving since the final appearance of an artwork depends on factors such as the substrate, the composition of the ground and how the artist has manipulated the paint. For example many modern Japanese oil paintings (western style) look like tempera or glue based paintings because many Japanese painters extract some of the oil from the paint before using it, moving it from fat to lean. If it is really important for you to know the medium then you should seek the funding to have analyses done (there are some simple micro-chemical tests too, that a lay person could learn). I hope this answers your question. Frank D. Preusser Frank Preusser & Associates, Inc. 6434 Pat Avenue West Hills, CA 91307 818-348-0481 Fax: 818-348-1764 [log in to unmask] --Boundary_(ID_YpY7UkW31CXz2jO4rXEXuA) Content-type: text/x-vcard; name=karahurst.vcf; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Card for Kara J. Hurst Content-disposition: attachment; filename=karahurst.vcf Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT begin:vcard n:Hurst;Kara J. tel;pager:405.559.0051 tel;fax:405.325.7699 tel;work:405.325.5481 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.snomnh.ou.edu org:SNOMNH adr:;;2401 Chautauqua Ave;Norman;OK;73072-7029; version:2.1 email;internet:[log in to unmask] title:Registration Intern x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Kara J. Hurst end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_YpY7UkW31CXz2jO4rXEXuA)-- ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:07:29 -0900 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Michael A. Lewis" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: UA Museum Subject: Re: bar-coding MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Acord wrote: > Right. i'm am trying to determine if there is a barcode standard that is > generally used more than others within the museum community. for the very > purpose of interoperability. i would like to be sure that a barcode label > on one of my pieces could be read by most other institutions. Ah, then in that case, the answer would probably be no and your subsequent question is more valid. Any bar code reader can read the bar code, but if you are entering data into a different database with different field parameters, the input stream will not be interpreted correctly by your database. In the absence of uniform and standardized database formats (God forbid!) there cannot be a uniform and standardized bar code system. Michael A. Lewis Archaeology Collections Manager University of Alaska Museum ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:33:28 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Katharine Westwood <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 20th century toys. In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My mother always talked about her by-low baby (now sure of the spelling). Apparently it was the first real-looking "baby doll" - right size, etc. Probably 1920s. Katharine mailto:[log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:12:51 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Martha Jackson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Collections Records on the Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0176_01BF81F5.E64C6480" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0176_01BF81F5.E64C6480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database be made available, whether they are accurate or not? Or should you make available only those records that have been updated and are accurate, periodically uploading new & corrected records? Thanks in advance for your input! PS--Sensitive information would not appear. Martha Battle Jackson Registrar North Carolina Historic Sites 4620 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-4620 (919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515 [log in to unmask] The opinions expressed may not be those of this agency. ------=_NextPart_000_0176_01BF81F5.E64C6480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing
collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database
be made available, whether they are accurate or not? Or should you make
available only those records that have been updated and are accurate,
periodically uploading new & corrected records?

Thanks in advance for your input!

PS--Sensitive information would not appear.

Martha Battle Jackson
Registrar
North Carolina Historic Sites
4620 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-4620
(919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515
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The opinions expressed may not be those of this agency.

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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:31:57 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lucy Sperlin Skjelstad <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: LA local internship MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy, I'd be a little more patient about internship responses. I know lots of Museum Studies students who aren't on Museum-L. I often print and mail internship info to their professor (also not on the list). (And I did send yours.) When I worked for another organization that relies heavily on interns, it appeared that many students get the info, but don't respond until Spring Term has started and they start thinking about what to do with their summer. Lucy Sperlin campbell wrote: > > I thought it was interesting that since I posted info about a possible > internship opportunity a week or two ago, I have received exactly two > responses. One was on behalf of a high school student (we need it to be > someone in college), and one was from a recent college graduate (I asked > for current students). Anybody know anybody? > > -- > Timothy L. Campbell > [log in to unmask] > http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8189 > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:47:08 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Public Relations <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Virtual Exhibition Launches MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The Textile Museum has launched its first virtual exhibition Flowers of Silk and Gold Online (www.textilemuseum.org/fsg) . FSG Online was created to complement the exhibition Flowers of Silk and Gold: Four Centuries of Ottoman Embroidery (on view at The TM February 18 to July 30, 2000). Building on objects in the exhibition (many never before exhibited or published), FSG Online includes images, activities and lesson plans to use textiles as a window onto a culture, specifically the Ottoman Empire. For more information or comments, please contact Maury Sullivan The Textile Museum Washington, DC [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:48:11 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Molly Carocci <[log in to unmask]> Subject: collecting theory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello: This may be a question more appropriately asked on an anthropology list, but maybe someone here can help. I'm a graduate student, finishing my master's thesis on a 19th century collection of Native American artifacts at a local museum. My advisor mentioned a relatively new "theory on collecting", and couldn't remember any more details. Does anyone here have any ideas about what he means? I'd gratefully appreciate any pointers to articles or other suggestions, and would love to hear from anyone else here who has an interest in the history and/or psychology of collecting. Many thanks! Molly Carocci History/Historical Archaeology Program University of Massachusetts Boston [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:13:33 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Meredith Rendall <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I am in charge of my graduate programs newsletter. This term, my director wanted to get the newsletter on-line. I have never done this. I wanted to create links to relevant sites. I was wondering if I need to permission to create such links. (I am including links to sites that list internships, job opps, etc). Does anyone know whether I need to seek permission for this? Thanks, Meredith Arts Admin Grad Student ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:18:10 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Tammy Jordan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: LA local internship MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a current graduate student in library science on the archival studies track. I have an interest in working with museum collections, however I'm just finishing my first year. I am taking Beginning Cataloging and am interested in learning how to catalog art works. I also am planning on pursuing coursework in preservation and museum studies. Is there a description of the internship posted on your website. I didn't see where it might be. Thank you, Tammy Jordan -----Original Message----- From: campbell <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: LA local internship >I thought it was interesting that since I posted info about a possible >internship opportunity a week or two ago, I have received exactly two >responses. One was on behalf of a high school student (we need it to be >someone in college), and one was from a recent college graduate (I asked >for current students). Anybody know anybody? > >-- >Timothy L. Campbell >[log in to unmask] >http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8189 > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:13:30 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Olivia Anastasiadis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 20th century toys. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you a lucky one! and yes, even though lengthy on the answers, I like'em all! Laura is going to have a great show! O Olivia S. Anastasiadis, Curator Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace 18001 Yorba Linda Boulevard Yorba Linda, CA 92886 (714) 993-5075, ext. 224; Fax (714) 528-0544 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarre, Jane - E&L CDU <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:44 AM Subject: Re: 20th century toys. > Looks like all you americans had deprived childhoods - how did you live > through the 70s without SPACE HOPPERS ??? > > and more mundanely, I had a board with a farmyard painted on one side and a > town layout on the other to play with model buildings, animals, cars etc. > > > ---------- > > From: linda.whitaker[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: 24 February 2000 19:12 > > Subject: Re: 20th century toys. > > > > Laura, > > > > Some thoughts...Cabbage Patch dolls from the mid-80s. Hula Hoops. "I > > Love > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:52:06 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Cynthia L. Ogorek" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Matteson Historical Society Subject: Re: Collections Records on the Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to broaden this discussion....why would we want to publish our collections records in the first place? Cynthia Ogorek Matteson Historical Museum Matteson, IL Martha Jackson wrote: > > What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing > collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database > be made available, whether they are accurate or not? Or should you make > available only those records that have been updated and are accurate, > periodically uploading new & corrected records? > > PS--Sensitive information would not appear. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:45:15 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jayne Holt <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Conservation classes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Meridith- I don't know whether you have received a response to your question by now or not. One of my co-workers forwarded it to me. I am a paper conservator here at the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum. Are you interested in becoming a book conservator? There are basically two ways to become one: you can apprentice yourself to one or more book conservators and learn the profession that way or you can go through one of the graduate programs and receive the equivalent of a Masters in Art Conservation (although the programs require practical experience as a prerequisite). There really aren't serious classes taught in book conservation that are available on a casual basis. However, a good book conservator needs to have a solid knowledge of bookbinding and there are lots of places to take classes in that. Learning bookbinding would be a good way to start getting your feet wet in terms of getting to know whether you really want to go into this profession. It will also bring you into contact with book conservators who can help you gain practical experience through internships or apprenticeships. Check with libraries, archives and universities to find book conservators who can give you more specific advice for your area. I've never yet met a conservator who wasn't happy to talk to people about his/her profession. There is a private conservation center in Philadelphia called The Conservation Center for Art and Historic Artifacts (or CCAHA) that has at least one book conservator on staff. This person can probably steer you in the right direction. Their number is 215/545-0613. The nearest graduate program to Philadelphia is the program at the University of Delaware, through Winterthur Museum. Their number is 302/831-2479. As for money, one nice thing about the graduate programs-- even though they are extremely competitive, once you are in they waive your tuition and provide a stipend for living expenses. Some of my classmates took out student loans to supplement their living expenses, books, etc. but not having to pay tuition made a big difference. This is necessary because the programs are pretty intensive 50-60 hour/week during the two years of coursework and then the final year is a full-time internship so there is no time for a part-time job. I hope this is helpful. I don't want to sound discouraging. It isn't easy to get into the profession but most of us love our jobs and there is always room for one more! -Jayne Girod Holt >>> Meredith Rendall <[log in to unmask]> 02/16/00 10:25AM >>> Hi everyone! I am an arts administration graduate student in Philadelphia interested in taking some paper/book conservation classes. My program doesn't offer any. Does anyone have any ideas on how I might find a workshop/program. As a student I don't have much money, so that is another concern. Thanks, Meredith ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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Early work with focus groups indicated that teachers for these grades wanted a curriculum guide to go along with the field trip, with a variety of multi-disciplinary lessons cross referenced to state and local educational objectives, so that they could better justify taking the trip. In addition, they wanted all the student worksheets ready for photocopying. The guide contains 14 lessons. We don't expect any one teacher to do all the lessons. We have indicated 3 basic lessons that we recommend all classes do in advance of the trip. From there, the individual teacher is free to select supporting lessons relevant to their particular focus. We worked with a teacher advisory group throughout the entire process. We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy. While the cost might eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a significant expense. Some museum staff are also concerned that an unsuspecting teacher would receive the guide and panic before realizing that they don't have to do the entire packet. The suggestion was made that in contacting the teacher in advance of the trip, one of the museum educator's could discuss the teacher's educational objectives and then select the lessons that the museum educator felt met those objectives. This would reduce the size of the mailed packet and the mailing expenses. On the other hand, some of the museum educator's believe that the school teacher could select the lessons better and might do more lessons once they had a chance to see how fun and exciting the lessons are. And once the museum educator's time in discussing the lessons is factored in, the net cost is probably the same as mailing the complete packet. Another idea was to mail the entire packet, but ask teacher's to return it. They could photocopy any lessons they wanted to and the museum would only have to reproduce a limited number of the guides. The potential is that teachers won't do it and the museum will have the expense of continually reproducing the guides. One suggestion might be to give them a $5 refund if they return the guide. Does anyone out there have experience in one system or the other? Jeannine Finton Education Consultant ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:52:52 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Janice Klein <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Collections Records on the Internet Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Before life intervened (i.e., a new job and total exhibit renovation) I had proposed a session for last fall's AMM (Midwest region) Annual Meeting on how decisions are/can/should be made about putting collections records on-line. (I really wanted to call it "How Much Do They Need to Know", but conference organizers frown on that kind of "negative" thinking) Vanessa Burkhardt at the Indianapolis Museum of Art eventually chaired the session, so you might want to contact her. Also Robin Meador-Woodruff at the Kelsey Museum in Ann Arbor would be a good source since I believe she in the process of doing this. I don't think Vanessa's on-line, but Robin can be reached at [log in to unmask] Janice Janice Klein Director Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia L. Ogorek <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Collections Records on the Internet >I'd like to broaden this discussion....why would we want to publish our >collections records in the first place? > >Cynthia Ogorek >Matteson Historical Museum >Matteson, IL > >Martha Jackson wrote: >> >> What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing >> collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database >> be made available, whether they are accurate or not? Or should you make >> available only those records that have been updated and are accurate, >> periodically uploading new & corrected records? >> > >> PS--Sensitive information would not appear. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:22:25 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Aaron Marcavitch <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: website software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Figured I would jump back into things with a quick post. To Romain Haug what kind of info are you looking for? I wanted to respond to Steve's post for a moment. I agree with your view on Dreamweaver. It has a curve but once you are over it, you are golden. I would also add that it has an add on pack (or something like that) that is called courseware that looks promising for designing online courses. I want to check it out soon. Frontpage should be tossed out with the garbage. That and anything you could design with Publisher. Blech. Adobe's stuff is getting better, and Photoshop 5.5 and Image Ready are AWESOME! (especially for easy rollovers) But they still dont have that solid authoring tool. I use Claris Homepage 3.0 from about a billion years ago (computer time). Its easy, I get my tables and I am out of there. Just a thought for anyone designing. I wanted to post again my call for anyone that might be interested in helping start a new website called the Home for Wayward Web Designers. I am looking for people that design and are non-profit by nature (therefore they speak both computer and non-profit languages). I hope to have a few thoughts and discussions on the topics related to web designs. This would involve writing a short (1-2 page) essay on what you have done and an application to how others can do it or understand the web better. Further I would love to get into doing How-To's, so if anyone would like to help out that would be great. Please write me back if you would like to help out! Aaron Historic Massachusetts Webmaster/Program Assistant ====Aaron [log in to unmask] Web Designer Technology Integration Consultant Cymatium.net Web Designs http://www.cymatium.net [log in to unmask] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:36:38 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Williamson Gallery <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Art Center Auction Online This Week Comments: To: LACN List <[log in to unmask]>, Pasadena Culture Net <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" **** Art Center Online Auction Benefits Student Scholarships **** **** Paintings by Deceased Instructor Up for Bid **** In a first for its fundrising and web teams, Art Center College of Design is auctioning fifteen paintings by Dwight Harmon, a popular teacher who was killed in 1996. After teaching a night class, Harmon was in San Bernardino near the home he and his wife Maria were building when he was accosted by strangers and beaten. He died from his injuries. Maria Rendon Harmon has donated the paintings to Art Center for the auction, its proceeds to benefit the Dwight Harmon Memorial Scholarship Fund, which provides financial assistance to students at the college. The auction is accessible on the internet THIS WEEK ONLY, and will culminate on Saturday night, March 4, when the college hosts an Alumni Annual Meeting at its Pasadena campus. The fifteen paintings are being auctioned through eBay.com. A special website for the auction has been created that contains images of all the works and links to the auction at eBay. Bidders can access the auction through the DwightSite, the website created for the event at http://www.artcenter.edu/dwightsite or search eBay using the search criteria "Dwight Harmon." ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:30:37 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amber Hough <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: collecting theory In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am also a grad student working on a study of museum representation of Latin American culture (including indigenous communities). In addition to the anthropology literature, there is a huge amount of information on the evolving world of collecting and exhibition of art/artifacts/culture of Indian and other non-western cultures. Check out the books from the AAM for a start. (www.aam-us.org) A few off the top of my head are "Reflections of a Culture Broker", by R. Kurin, "Exhibiting Cultures" by Karp and Lavine, and "Imagery and Creativity", by D. Whitten. Also, The Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian my have some literature. Their exhibits in New York are totally aimed at reinterpreting exhibition of Indian art and culture. -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Molly Carocci Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: collecting theory Hello: This may be a question more appropriately asked on an anthropology list, but maybe someone here can help. I'm a graduate student, finishing my master's thesis on a 19th century collection of Native American artifacts at a local museum. My advisor mentioned a relatively new "theory on collecting", and couldn't remember any more details. Does anyone here have any ideas about what he means? I'd gratefully appreciate any pointers to articles or other suggestions, and would love to hear from anyone else here who has an interest in the history and/or psychology of collecting. Many thanks! Molly Carocci History/Historical Archaeology Program University of Massachusetts Boston [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:21:13 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Heather Price <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Ella Sharp Museum Subject: Re: Teacher Guide Dilemma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannine Finton wrote: > We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does > contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and > educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The > total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and > mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy. While the cost might > eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a > significant expense. Jeannine: A suggestion. Does the museum have a web site? You might consider putting the entire guide on the web site in a .pdf format. The teachers could then download and print it off themselves. You could send them all copies of the three suggested lessons along with information on how to find the entire book on the Internet. If they don't have web access, they could order a copy from you for $5.00. Heather Price Ella Sharp Museum Jackson, Michigan ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:19:31 -0330 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Adrienne Roberts <[log in to unmask]> In-Reply-To: <11B81E7C7500D211B51E00805FAD12FE1917AB@TEXTILE_PDC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Everyone just wanted to say thanks to eveyrone for all the words of wisdom about job hunting Take care Adrienne ************************************************************************ "I can believe that," said Bigwig. "Efrafa! Ants led by a dog! But we're not in Efrafa now. Has he really forgotten that he warned us?" "Probably he really has. But whether or not, you'd never get him to admit that he warned you or to listen while you told him he'd been right. He could no more do that than pass hraka underground." "But you're an Efrafan. Do you think like that too?" "I'm a doe," said Hyzenthlay. Watership Down by Richard Adams, p. 390 ************************************************************************* ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:16:01 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sandra Harris <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Liberace Museum Subject: Re: Teacher Guide Dilemma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We faced a similar dilemma in my last position. After our own focus groups it was clear that teachers wanted to see everything and make their own decisions. We solved it by providing one free full copy to each school, and provided an order form for additional copies for $7.95 each, postage included. We also added an attractive cover, called it the Teacher Resource Guide and included it for sale in the Museum Store. We sold quite a few to other visitors and teachers from other areas. Before I left we also had plans to put the whole guide on the website, which is the easiest solution of all. Regards- Sandra L. Harris Executive Director The Liberace Foundation and Museum 1775 East Tropicana Avenue Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 702-798-5595 phone 702-798-7386 fax [log in to unmask] www.liberace.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannine Finton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: Teacher Guide Dilemma > Please forgive cross postings. > > I've been working with a museum to develop a new, hands-on field trip for > middle and high school students. We know that the audience for the trip could > be Social Studies or Family Studies or Technology Education classes. Early > work with focus groups indicated that teachers for these grades wanted a > curriculum guide to go along with the field trip, with a variety of > multi-disciplinary lessons cross referenced to state and local educational > objectives, so that they could better justify taking the trip. In addition, > they wanted all the student worksheets ready for photocopying. > > The guide contains 14 lessons. We don't expect any one teacher to do all the > lessons. We have indicated 3 basic lessons that we recommend all classes do > in advance of the trip. From there, the individual teacher is free to select > supporting lessons relevant to their particular focus. We worked with a > teacher advisory group throughout the entire process. > > We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does > contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and > educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The > total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and > mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy. While the cost might > eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a > significant expense. Some museum staff are also concerned that an > unsuspecting teacher would receive the guide and panic before realizing that > they don't have to do the entire packet. > > The suggestion was made that in contacting the teacher in advance of the > trip, one of the museum educator's could discuss the teacher's educational > objectives and then select the lessons that the museum educator felt met > those objectives. This would reduce the size of the mailed packet and the > mailing expenses. On the other hand, some of the museum educator's believe > that the school teacher could select the lessons better and might do more > lessons once they had a chance to see how fun and exciting the lessons are. > And once the museum educator's time in discussing the lessons is factored in, > the net cost is probably the same as mailing the complete packet. > > Another idea was to mail the entire packet, but ask teacher's to return it. > They could photocopy any lessons they wanted to and the museum would only > have to reproduce a limited number of the guides. The potential is that > teachers won't do it and the museum will have the expense of continually > reproducing the guides. One suggestion might be to give them a $5 refund if > they return the guide. > > Does anyone out there have experience in one system or the other? > > Jeannine Finton > Education Consultant > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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Harris" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Lab for Environmental Biology, UTEP Subject: Re: Collections Records on the Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Martha Jackson wrote: > > What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing > collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database > be made available, whether they are accurate or not? Or should you make > available only those records that have been updated and are accurate, > periodically uploading new & corrected records? I think this is going to vary according to institution, purpose of the database being online, and type of collection--what is critical is that the viewer be told the level of confidence. A database designed to inform the public as to holdings they might want to see, etc., might be considerably different from a database designed to aid researchers. Unproofed records are not necessarily harmful if proper procedure is followed (see below) and may be useful in alerting researchers that there is potentially useful material held by the institution or that there may be a problem. Proper procedure in much of the natural and cultural history area does not include casually accepting listed data and basing research on those data. Considerable ill feelings and numerous errors have been generated in the past when researchers have high-graded catalogue information and published papers based on those unproofed entries. Public research databases are best utilized as informing researchers where particular material is being held so that critical specimens can be borrowed or the institution visited. Another valuable use may be as an aid in formulating hypotheses (e.g., the ecological distribution of a taxon) which then can be tested by normal means. Cheers Art Harris -- Laboratory for Environmental Biology, Centennial Museum University of Texas at El Paso, El Paso, TX 79968-0915 phone (915)747-6985; fax (915)747-5808; [log in to unmask] http://www.utep.edu/leb http://nasa.utep.edu/chih/chihdes.htm http://www.utep.edu/museum ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:15:52 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: campbell <[log in to unmask]> Subject: LA intership.... Comments: To: [log in to unmask], Jessica Curci <[log in to unmask]>, sallan <[log in to unmask]>, Paula Griffith <[log in to unmask]>, Lori Lytle <[log in to unmask]>, Carol Riggles <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Museum-Lers, Oops, I meant LA as in Los Angeles - sorry! I did get a few more responses now, though (with some obvious geographic problems). That's what I get for writing without thinking. My apologies. I will also remind people to check the list archives on the web if you want to look at an old posting. Just to clarify, I am posting an internship position opening in Los Angeles (Glendale, actually). The position would be for 10-20 hours a week, at or around mimimum wage, so we are looking for people who already have housing and a way to support themselves. We want students currently enrolled in a college or university (any kind of program that will grant credit for an internship). No experience necessary, but an interest in museum collections management or regristration is required. The work would be with works of art on paper, so an interest in this kind of material is an asset. If you are interested, or know a contact person at a school here who could post this, please write to me off-list. Thanks!!! -- Timothy L. Campbell [log in to unmask] http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8189 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:00:51 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Chris & Amy Petersen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Teacher Guide Dilemma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you though of using a package like Adobe Exchange to turn your document into Adobe Acrobat reader format? Primary documents can be scanned in and the entire package can then be printed out by the teacher. You could then make the photocopying their responsibility, which also prevents the entire packet being printed while only one lesson is used. You could distribute your packets either on CD-Rom, or via a website. Amy Petersen Jeannine Finton wrote: > > Please forgive cross postings. > > I've been working with a museum to develop a new, hands-on field trip for > middle and high school students. We know that the audience for the trip could > be Social Studies or Family Studies or Technology Education classes. Early > work with focus groups indicated that teachers for these grades wanted a > curriculum guide to go along with the field trip, with a variety of > multi-disciplinary lessons cross referenced to state and local educational > objectives, so that they could better justify taking the trip. In addition, > they wanted all the student worksheets ready for photocopying. > > The guide contains 14 lessons. We don't expect any one teacher to do all the > lessons. We have indicated 3 basic lessons that we recommend all classes do > in advance of the trip. From there, the individual teacher is free to select > supporting lessons relevant to their particular focus. We worked with a > teacher advisory group throughout the entire process. > > We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does > contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and > educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The > total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and > mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy. While the cost might > eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a > significant expense. Some museum staff are also concerned that an > unsuspecting teacher would receive the guide and panic before realizing that > they don't have to do the entire packet. > > The suggestion was made that in contacting the teacher in advance of the > trip, one of the museum educator's could discuss the teacher's educational > objectives and then select the lessons that the museum educator felt met > those objectives. This would reduce the size of the mailed packet and the > mailing expenses. On the other hand, some of the museum educator's believe > that the school teacher could select the lessons better and might do more > lessons once they had a chance to see how fun and exciting the lessons are. > And once the museum educator's time in discussing the lessons is factored in, > the net cost is probably the same as mailing the complete packet. > > Another idea was to mail the entire packet, but ask teacher's to return it. > They could photocopy any lessons they wanted to and the museum would only > have to reproduce a limited number of the guides. The potential is that > teachers won't do it and the museum will have the expense of continually > reproducing the guides. One suggestion might be to give them a $5 refund if > they return the guide. > > Does anyone out there have experience in one system or the other? > > Jeannine Finton > Education Consultant > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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