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>I thought it was interesting that since I posted info about a possible
>internship opportunity a week or two ago, I have received exactly two
>responses.  One was on behalf of a high school student (we need it to be
>someone in college), and one was from a recent college graduate (I asked
>for current students).  Anybody know anybody?
>
>--
>Timothy L. Campbell
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Date:         Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:13:30 -0800
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you a lucky one!  and yes, even though lengthy on the answers, I like'em
all!  Laura is going to have a great show!

O
Olivia S. Anastasiadis, Curator
Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace
18001 Yorba Linda Boulevard
Yorba Linda, CA  92886
(714) 993-5075, ext. 224; Fax (714) 528-0544

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> Looks like all you americans had deprived childhoods - how did you live
> through the 70s without SPACE HOPPERS ???
>
> and more mundanely, I had a board with a farmyard painted on one side and
a
> town layout on the other to play with model buildings, animals, cars etc.
>
> > ----------
> > From:         linda.whitaker[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:         24 February 2000 19:12
> > Subject:      Re: 20th century toys.
> >
> > Laura,
> >
> > Some thoughts...Cabbage Patch dolls from the mid-80s.  Hula Hoops.  "I
> > Love
> >

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I'd like to broaden this discussion....why would we want to publish our
collections records in the first place?

Cynthia Ogorek
Matteson Historical Museum
Matteson, IL

Martha Jackson wrote:
>
> What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing
> collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database
> be made available, whether they are accurate or not?  Or should you make
> available only those records that have been updated and are accurate,
> periodically uploading new & corrected records?
>

> PS--Sensitive information would not appear.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:45:15 -0500
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Meridith-

I don't know whether you have received a response to your question by now
or not.  One of my co-workers forwarded it to me.  I am a paper conservator
here at the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum.

Are you interested in becoming a book conservator?  There are basically two
ways to become one:  you can apprentice yourself to one or more book
conservators and learn the profession that way or you can go through one of
the graduate programs and receive the equivalent of a Masters in Art
Conservation (although the programs require practical experience as a
prerequisite).  There really aren't serious classes taught in book
conservation that are available on a casual basis.  However, a good book
conservator needs to have a solid knowledge of bookbinding and there are
lots of places to take classes in that.  Learning bookbinding would be a
good way to start getting your feet wet in terms of getting to know whether
you really want to go into this profession.  It will also bring you into
contact with book conservators who can help you gain practical experience
through internships or apprenticeships.

Check with libraries, archives and universities to find book conservators
who can give you more specific advice for your area.  I've never yet met a
conservator who wasn't happy to talk to people about his/her profession.
There is a private conservation center in Philadelphia called The
Conservation Center for Art and Historic Artifacts (or CCAHA) that has at
least one book conservator on staff.  This person can probably steer you in
the right direction.  Their number is 215/545-0613.  The nearest graduate
program to Philadelphia is the program at the University of Delaware,
through Winterthur Museum.  Their number is 302/831-2479.

As for money, one nice thing about the graduate programs-- even though they
are extremely competitive, once you are in they waive your tuition and
provide a stipend for living expenses.  Some of my classmates took out
student loans to supplement their living expenses, books, etc. but not
having to pay tuition made a big difference.  This is necessary because the
programs are pretty intensive 50-60 hour/week during the two years of
coursework and then the final year is a full-time internship so there is no
time for a part-time job.

I hope this is helpful.  I don't want to sound discouraging.  It isn't easy
to get into the profession but most of us love our jobs and there is always
room for one more!

-Jayne Girod Holt

>>> Meredith Rendall <[log in to unmask]> 02/16/00 10:25AM >>>
Hi everyone!

I am an arts administration graduate student in Philadelphia interested in
taking some paper/book conservation classes.  My program doesn't offer
any.
Does anyone have any ideas on how I might find a workshop/program.  As a
student I don't have much money, so that is another concern.

Thanks,

Meredith

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Please forgive cross postings.

I've been working with a museum to develop a new, hands-on field trip for
middle and high school students. We know that the audience for the trip could
be Social Studies or Family Studies or Technology Education classes. Early
work with focus groups indicated that teachers for these grades wanted a
curriculum guide to go along with the field trip, with a variety of
multi-disciplinary lessons cross referenced to state and local educational
objectives, so that they could better justify taking the trip. In addition,
they wanted all the student worksheets ready for photocopying.

The guide contains 14 lessons. We don't expect any one teacher to do all the
lessons. We have indicated 3 basic lessons that we recommend all classes do
in advance of the trip. From there, the individual teacher is free to select
supporting lessons relevant to their particular focus. We worked with a
teacher advisory group throughout the entire process.

We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does
contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and
educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The
total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and
mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy.  While the cost might
eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a
significant expense. Some museum staff are also concerned that an
unsuspecting teacher would receive the guide and panic before realizing that
they don't have to do the entire packet.

The suggestion was made that in contacting the teacher in advance of the
trip, one of the museum educator's could discuss the teacher's educational
objectives and then select the lessons that the museum educator felt met
those objectives. This would reduce the size of the mailed packet and the
mailing expenses. On the other hand, some of the museum educator's believe
that the school teacher could select the lessons better and might do more
lessons once they had a chance to see how fun and exciting the lessons are.
And once the museum educator's time in discussing the lessons is factored in,
the net cost is probably the same as mailing the complete packet.

Another idea was to mail the entire packet, but ask teacher's to return it.
They could photocopy any lessons they wanted to and the museum would only
have to reproduce a limited number of the guides. The potential is that
teachers won't do it and the museum will have the expense of continually
reproducing the guides. One suggestion might be to give them a $5 refund if
they return the guide.

Does anyone out there have experience in one system or the other?

Jeannine Finton
Education Consultant

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Date:         Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:52:52 -0600
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Before life intervened (i.e., a new job and total exhibit renovation) I had
proposed a session for last fall's AMM (Midwest region) Annual Meeting on
how decisions are/can/should be made about putting collections records
on-line.  (I really wanted to call it "How Much Do They Need to Know", but
conference organizers frown on that kind of "negative" thinking)   Vanessa
Burkhardt at the Indianapolis Museum of Art eventually chaired the session,
so you might want to contact her.   Also Robin Meador-Woodruff at the Kelsey
Museum in Ann Arbor would be a good source since I believe she in the
process of doing this.  I don't think Vanessa's on-line, but Robin can be
reached at [log in to unmask]

Janice

Janice Klein
Director
Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College

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Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Collections Records on the Internet


>I'd like to broaden this discussion....why would we want to publish our
>collections records in the first place?
>
>Cynthia Ogorek
>Matteson Historical Museum
>Matteson, IL
>
>Martha Jackson wrote:
>>
>> What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing
>> collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database
>> be made available, whether they are accurate or not?  Or should you make
>> available only those records that have been updated and are accurate,
>> periodically uploading new & corrected records?
>>
>
>> PS--Sensitive information would not appear.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:22:25 -0800
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Figured I would jump back into things with a quick
post.  To Romain Haug what kind of info are you
looking for?

I wanted to respond to Steve's post for a moment.  I
agree with your view on Dreamweaver. It has a curve
but once you are over it, you are golden.  I would
also add that it has an add on pack (or something like
that) that is called courseware that looks promising
for designing online courses.  I want to check it out
soon.

Frontpage should be tossed out with the garbage.  That
and anything you could design with Publisher. Blech.
Adobe's stuff is getting better, and Photoshop 5.5 and
Image Ready are AWESOME! (especially for easy
rollovers)  But they still dont have that solid
authoring tool.

I use Claris Homepage 3.0 from about a billion years
ago (computer time).  Its easy, I get my tables and I
am out of there.  Just a thought for anyone designing.

I wanted to post again my call for anyone that might
be interested in helping start a new website called
the Home for Wayward Web Designers.  I am looking for
people that design and are non-profit by nature
(therefore they speak both computer and non-profit
languages).  I hope to have a few thoughts and
discussions on the topics related to web designs. This
would involve writing a short (1-2 page) essay on what
you have done and an application to how others can do
it or understand the web better.

Further I would love to get into doing How-To's, so if
anyone would like to help out that would be great.

Please write me back if you would like to help out!
Aaron
Historic Massachusetts
Webmaster/Program Assistant

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**** Art Center Online Auction Benefits Student Scholarships ****

**** Paintings by Deceased Instructor Up for Bid ****


In a first for its fundrising and web teams, Art Center College of Design
is auctioning fifteen paintings by Dwight Harmon, a popular teacher who
was killed in 1996.  After teaching a night class, Harmon was in San
Bernardino near the home he and his wife Maria were building when he was
accosted by strangers and beaten.  He died from his injuries.

Maria Rendon Harmon has donated the paintings to Art Center for the
auction, its proceeds to benefit the Dwight Harmon Memorial Scholarship
Fund, which provides financial assistance to students at the college.

The auction is accessible on the internet THIS WEEK ONLY, and will
culminate on Saturday night, March 4, when the college hosts an Alumni
Annual Meeting at its Pasadena campus.

The fifteen paintings are being auctioned through eBay.com.  A special
website for the auction has been created that contains images of all the
works and links to the auction at eBay.   Bidders can access the auction
through the DwightSite, the website created for the event at

http://www.artcenter.edu/dwightsite

or search eBay using the search criteria "Dwight Harmon."

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I am also a grad student working on a study of museum representation of
Latin American culture (including indigenous communities). In addition to
the anthropology literature, there is a huge amount of information on the
evolving world of collecting and exhibition of art/artifacts/culture of
Indian and other non-western cultures.  Check out the books from the AAM for
a start.  (www.aam-us.org) A few off the top of my head are "Reflections of
a Culture Broker", by R. Kurin,  "Exhibiting Cultures" by Karp and Lavine,
and "Imagery and Creativity", by D. Whitten.  Also, The Smithsonian Museum
of the American Indian my have some literature. Their exhibits in New York
are totally aimed at reinterpreting exhibition of Indian art and culture.

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Of Molly Carocci
Sent:   Monday, February 28, 2000 2:48 PM
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Subject:        collecting theory

Hello:

This may be a question more appropriately asked on an anthropology list,
but maybe someone here can help.  I'm a graduate student, finishing my
master's thesis on a 19th century collection of Native American artifacts
at a local museum.  My advisor mentioned a relatively new "theory on
collecting", and couldn't remember any more details.  Does anyone here have
any ideas about what he means?  I'd gratefully appreciate any pointers to
articles or other suggestions, and would love to hear from anyone else here
who has an interest in the history and/or psychology of collecting.  Many
thanks!

Molly Carocci
History/Historical Archaeology Program
University of Massachusetts Boston
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Jeannine Finton wrote:

> We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does
> contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and
> educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The
> total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and
> mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy.  While the cost might
> eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a
> significant expense.

Jeannine:

A suggestion.
Does the museum have a web site?  You might consider putting the entire guide on the web site in a .pdf format.  The teachers could then download and print it off themselves.

You could send them all copies of the three suggested lessons along with information on how to find the entire book on the Internet.  If they don't have web access, they could order a copy from you for $5.00.

Heather Price
Ella Sharp Museum
Jackson, Michigan

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Hi Everyone

just wanted to say thanks to eveyrone for all the words of wisdom about
job hunting

Take care
Adrienne
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we're not in Efrafa now.  Has he really forgotten that he warned us?"
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admit that he warned you or to listen while you told him he'd been right.
He could no more do that than pass hraka underground."
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We faced a similar dilemma in my last position. After our own focus groups
it was clear that teachers wanted to see everything and make their own
decisions. We solved it by providing one free full copy to each school, and
provided an order form for additional copies for $7.95 each, postage
included.

We also added an attractive cover, called it the Teacher Resource Guide and
included it for sale in the Museum Store. We sold quite a few to other
visitors and teachers from other areas.

Before I left we also had plans to put the whole guide on the website, which
is the easiest solution of all.

Regards-
Sandra L. Harris
Executive Director
The Liberace Foundation and Museum
1775 East Tropicana Avenue
Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
702-798-5595 phone
702-798-7386 fax
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Subject: Teacher Guide Dilemma


> Please forgive cross postings.
>
> I've been working with a museum to develop a new, hands-on field trip for
> middle and high school students. We know that the audience for the trip
could
> be Social Studies or Family Studies or Technology Education classes. Early
> work with focus groups indicated that teachers for these grades wanted a
> curriculum guide to go along with the field trip, with a variety of
> multi-disciplinary lessons cross referenced to state and local educational
> objectives, so that they could better justify taking the trip. In
addition,
> they wanted all the student worksheets ready for photocopying.
>
> The guide contains 14 lessons. We don't expect any one teacher to do all
the
> lessons. We have indicated 3 basic lessons that we recommend all classes
do
> in advance of the trip. From there, the individual teacher is free to
select
> supporting lessons relevant to their particular focus. We worked with a
> teacher advisory group throughout the entire process.
>
> We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it
does
> contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets
and
> educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The
> total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and
> mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy.  While the cost might
> eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a
> significant expense. Some museum staff are also concerned that an
> unsuspecting teacher would receive the guide and panic before realizing
that
> they don't have to do the entire packet.
>
> The suggestion was made that in contacting the teacher in advance of the
> trip, one of the museum educator's could discuss the teacher's educational
> objectives and then select the lessons that the museum educator felt met
> those objectives. This would reduce the size of the mailed packet and the
> mailing expenses. On the other hand, some of the museum educator's believe
> that the school teacher could select the lessons better and might do more
> lessons once they had a chance to see how fun and exciting the lessons
are.
> And once the museum educator's time in discussing the lessons is factored
in,
> the net cost is probably the same as mailing the complete packet.
>
> Another idea was to mail the entire packet, but ask teacher's to return
it.
> They could photocopy any lessons they wanted to and the museum would only
> have to reproduce a limited number of the guides. The potential is that
> teachers won't do it and the museum will have the expense of continually
> reproducing the guides. One suggestion might be to give them a $5 refund
if
> they return the guide.
>
> Does anyone out there have experience in one system or the other?
>
> Jeannine Finton
> Education Consultant
>
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Date:         Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:21:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
From:         "Arthur H. Harris" <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: Lab for Environmental Biology, UTEP
Subject:      Re: Collections Records on the Internet
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> Martha Jackson wrote:
>
> What is the general feeling of museum professionals regarding placing
> collections records on the Internet--should all records in your database
> be made available, whether they are accurate or not?  Or should you make
> available only those records that have been updated and are accurate,
> periodically uploading new & corrected records?

I think this is going to vary according to institution, purpose of
the database being online, and type of collection--what is critical
is that the viewer be told the level of confidence.  A database
designed to inform the public as to holdings they might want to see,
etc., might be considerably different from a database designed to
aid researchers.  Unproofed records are not necessarily harmful if
proper procedure is followed (see below) and may be useful in
alerting researchers that there is potentially useful material held
by the institution or that there may be a problem.

Proper procedure in much of the natural and cultural history area
does not include casually accepting listed data and basing research
on those data.  Considerable ill feelings and numerous errors have
been generated in the past when researchers have high-graded
catalogue information and published papers based on those unproofed
entries.  Public research databases are best utilized as informing
researchers where particular material is being held so that critical
specimens can be borrowed or the institution visited.  Another
valuable use may be as an aid in formulating hypotheses (e.g., the
ecological distribution of a taxon) which then can be tested by
normal means.

Cheers

Art Harris
--
Laboratory for Environmental Biology, Centennial Museum
University of Texas at El Paso, El Paso, TX  79968-0915
phone (915)747-6985; fax (915)747-5808; [log in to unmask]
http://www.utep.edu/leb    http://nasa.utep.edu/chih/chihdes.htm
http://www.utep.edu/museum

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Date:         Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:15:52 -0800
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From:         campbell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      LA intership....
Comments: To: [log in to unmask], Jessica Curci <[log in to unmask]>,
          sallan <[log in to unmask]>, Paula Griffith <[log in to unmask]>,
          Lori Lytle <[log in to unmask]>,
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Museum-Lers,

Oops, I meant LA as in Los Angeles - sorry!  I did get a few more
responses now, though (with some obvious geographic problems).  That's
what I get for writing without thinking.  My apologies.  I will also
remind people to check the list archives on the web if you want to look
at an old posting.

Just to clarify, I am posting an internship position opening in Los
Angeles (Glendale, actually).

The position would be for 10-20 hours a week, at or around mimimum wage,
so we are looking for people who already have housing and a way to
support themselves.

We want students currently enrolled in a college or university (any kind
of program that will grant credit for an internship).

No experience necessary, but an interest in museum collections
management or regristration is required.

The work would be with works of art on paper, so an interest in this
kind of material is an asset.

If you are interested, or know a contact person at a school here who
could post this, please write to me off-list.  Thanks!!!

--
Timothy L. Campbell
[log in to unmask]
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/8189

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Date:         Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:00:51 -0500
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Have you though of using a package like Adobe Exchange to turn your
document into Adobe Acrobat reader format? Primary documents can be
scanned in and the entire package can then be printed out by the
teacher. You could then make the photocopying their responsibility,
which also prevents the entire packet being printed while only one
lesson is used. You could distribute your packets either on CD-Rom, or
via a website.

Amy Petersen

Jeannine Finton wrote:
>
> Please forgive cross postings.
>
> I've been working with a museum to develop a new, hands-on field trip for
> middle and high school students. We know that the audience for the trip could
> be Social Studies or Family Studies or Technology Education classes. Early
> work with focus groups indicated that teachers for these grades wanted a
> curriculum guide to go along with the field trip, with a variety of
> multi-disciplinary lessons cross referenced to state and local educational
> objectives, so that they could better justify taking the trip. In addition,
> they wanted all the student worksheets ready for photocopying.
>
> The guide contains 14 lessons. We don't expect any one teacher to do all the
> lessons. We have indicated 3 basic lessons that we recommend all classes do
> in advance of the trip. From there, the individual teacher is free to select
> supporting lessons relevant to their particular focus. We worked with a
> teacher advisory group throughout the entire process.
>
> We've completed the guide and now are faced with a dilemma. Because it does
> contain primary source images and documents, all the student worksheets and
> educational objectives, each lesson averages about 7 pages in length. The
> total guide is around 50 double-sided pages. The cost of photocopying and
> mailing the guide would be around $5 per copy.  While the cost might
> eventually get built into the program fees, in the short term that is a
> significant expense. Some museum staff are also concerned that an
> unsuspecting teacher would receive the guide and panic before realizing that
> they don't have to do the entire packet.
>
> The suggestion was made that in contacting the teacher in advance of the
> trip, one of the museum educator's could discuss the teacher's educational
> objectives and then select the lessons that the museum educator felt met
> those objectives. This would reduce the size of the mailed packet and the
> mailing expenses. On the other hand, some of the museum educator's believe
> that the school teacher could select the lessons better and might do more
> lessons once they had a chance to see how fun and exciting the lessons are.
> And once the museum educator's time in discussing the lessons is factored in,
> the net cost is probably the same as mailing the complete packet.
>
> Another idea was to mail the entire packet, but ask teacher's to return it.
> They could photocopy any lessons they wanted to and the museum would only
> have to reproduce a limited number of the guides. The potential is that
> teachers won't do it and the museum will have the expense of continually
> reproducing the guides. One suggestion might be to give them a $5 refund if
> they return the guide.
>
> Does anyone out there have experience in one system or the other?
>
> Jeannine Finton
> Education Consultant
>
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