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Jodi Renee Gronborg <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:30:54 -0500
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As to what this 'other' thinks, I agree that salaries should be posted.
Mainly for the two reasons stated:

1.  Not having it posted up front can be very costly, in terms of time,
money, and stress, for the applicants.
An example:  I thought it rather unfair that after paying my own airfare to
interview for a position I thought I would enjoy, and agonizing over
whether I was willing to sacrifice certain personal freedoms (it was a
salary +room & board Day-Program Director position at an env. ed.
center),...that the director  took my concern about my ability to *get by*
(make monthly student loan payments, etc.) on the salary finally revealed
to me my last day there (it was far lower that even I had imagined) as an
indication that I didn't feel I absolutely *needed* to be there - her
number one criterion for hiring.
Money is not my primary consideration by any means, but it is a factor for
practical reasons.

2.  Not making the salary public does have a negative impact on our
profession in terms of salary, security, and status (- as discussed in
previous messages).

However,
Even if it should be considered an important move to require salary disclosure,

Is there anything we can actually due to make it a requirement?

Or are we just venting our frustrations in discussing this?


>I couldn't agree more with Arlyn.  How can a professional establish any long-
>and medium-term employment strategy if salaries are never disclosed before
>application?  But I notice that there are only 4 or 5 of us who are actually
>participating to this debate.  I'd be interested to know what others think
>about this.
>
>Hervé Gagnon
>
>Arlyn Danielson a écrit:
>
>> Perhaps you are comparing apples and kiwis.  Museums are obviously in a far
>> different bracket money wise than IBM etc..  To answer your question, I
>> have seen more than my fair share of game playing with salaries and ranges.
>>  All I would like to see is reasonable salary information being offered up
>> front in order for a museum professional to make an informed decision on
>> what he/she should do, or strategy to take.   This is not unreasonable, but
>> I appreciate your feedback.
>>
>> ----------
>> From:   Ross Weeks[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent:   Thursday, April 16, 1998 10:18 AM
>> To:     [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:        Re: JOB OPPORTUNITY: Museum Director, Golden State Museum
>>
>> For what it's worth, have you ever seen IBM "advertise" for a CEO or VP at
>> a
>> salary range (negotiable based on KSAs) of between $1,250,000 and
>> $18,000,000 excluding options, bonuses and perquisities?
>>
>> Have you ever seen the White House advertise for ANY of its employees?
>>
>> Have you ever seen advertisements that specify a salary range for a
>> particular job (as required by policy, state regs, whatever) only to find
>> that the state, the museum, or someone has dictated that only the entry
>> salary can actually be offered?
>>
>> Do you know of people who have accepted positions not just for the
>> compensation, but because of the quality of the museum, its location, its
>> potential, etc.?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Arlyn Danielson <[log in to unmask]>
>> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.museum-l
>>
>> >I for one have never enjoyed digging around for salary information that is
>> >not posted or included in an ad.  Usually I find out what I am looking
>> for,
>> >but in some instances, it's like pulling teeth.  I don't like to waste
>> >anyone's time- mostly mine, if a position is not a good match.  Someone
>> >mentioned previously that if a museum doesn't mention a salary, or at
>> least
>> >a range, it almost seems like they have something to hide, or they are
>> >ashamed of what they offer.  In this case, shame is good! -- As hard
>> >working museum professionals, many of us wish for and deserve higher
>> >salaries.


Jodi Gronborg, Exhibit Developer
Chicago Academy of Sciences, The Nature Museum

*Opinions expressed are my own and may not necessarily be that of my employer.

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