Thanks Julia,
Great humor for a Monday morning.
This on another hand(from the previous discussion), is a case of religion
intentionally misinterpreting and/or misrepresenting "evidence" to fit the
desired result of humans and dinosaurs coexisting. A great example of
subjective reality and objective reality being forced together in a way
that truly must be believed to be understood.
Most of the people I have ever talked to who asked if such a thing was
possible, did so because they remembered the diagrams from their
kindergarten classes depicting a human alongside a Brontosaur. Big
dinosaur, tiny human. Although intended purely for purposes of scale, it
makes me wonder if that might not be the genesis of this particular area of
misinformation. Perhaps the Lost World movies are to blame.
Mark Janzen
Registrar/Collections Manager
Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art
Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection
Wichita State University
(316)978-5850
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And I would like to add this:
http://www.creationevidence.org/ The Creation Evidence Museum in Glen
Rose, Texas.
I learned of this museum just last week while perusing a hilarious pair
of artworks by Gary Sweeney in the Denver airport, entitled "America,
Why I Love Her." Derived from memories of road trips with his parents,
it's a survey of "strange but there" sites across the U.S.
I also found out about the Bible Bird Show in Noblesville, Indiana,
which I had never heard of despite living in this area since 1986.
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/INNOBbird.html It sounds like,
pardon the pun, a hoot.
Julia Muney Moore
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Blackburn Architects, Indianapolis, IN
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For those involved and/or interested in the creationism versus evolution
discussion, please note the cover story of latest issue of Museum News .
. .
In reference to Mr. Steffen's statement (below):
The secular-humanist understanding of history did not "create" this
dichotomous view. A number of scientists involved in groundbreaking
research and experimentation just before and during the Enlightenment
were
devout and devoted to their religious systems . . . yet found themselves
forced into debate and/or censored by religious authorities. If
anything
"created" the dichotomous view, it was the collective past abuses of
religious authority. Whilst the schism ('faith' versus 'proof') may
have
been revealed by those rationalistic positivists, the wedge was
irreparably
driven in by the counter-reformationists (on the Roman Catholic side)
and
fundamental literalists (on the Protestant side).
This is not a question of scientists bashing religion, but of
religion
bashing science. So why should science -- testing (and retesting)
hypotheses in structured experimentation -- have to "amend" itself to
accommodate religion, grounded in faith, without verifiable evidence?
Why
should science (or any field of inquiry) bow to religion that, so often,
imposes supposedly universal morality (as commanded by a divinity) on
objective reality?
Religion has taken only the first step of scientific method --
develop a
hypothesis. But there is no structured experimentation possible when I
comes to faith. Those who believe, believe without the need for
knowledge;
those who crave knowledge often consider faith cheap . . . if not
entirely
bankrupt.
Best wishes,
Jay Heuman
Curator of Education
Salt Lake Art Center
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> From: Joshua Steffen <[log in to unmask]>
> I think the day has come to amend the secular-humanistic understanding
> of history that has created this dichotomous view of Western societal
> development where the basic tension has been between the wise
> "Enlightened" rationalistic positivists and those who dogmatically
> stood in the way of Progress by shaking their shaman trinkets of
> faith.
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