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>There are 40 messages totalling 1183 lines in this issue.
>
>Topics of the day:
>
>  1. museum directory
>  2. Shows at the National Gallery of Art (3)
>  3. open Collections Storage
>  4. Masters prog
>  5. Museum "Camp-ins"
>  6. New Mission Statements (2)
>  7. Art Science connections
>  8. Camp-ins (2)
>  9. Space Exhibit
> 10. ADA & historic homes
> 11. Is there a good Museum Ticket Sales System?
> 12. Souvenir pens (3)
> 13. Revised Mission Statement Request
> 14. Books on Current Computer Technology and Museums (2)
> 15. 1997 Smithsonian Institution Fellowship Program (2)
> 16. Dioramas/Mini-dioramas
> 17. Privatization of municipal museums
> 18. Suggested Donation (2)
> 19. Museum Archival Supplies Handbook
> 20. NAGPRA-L??? (2)
> 21. Austin Cooley and other requests
> 22. Contract Samples
> 23. Civil War flag display
> 24. Stanchions?
> 25. Museum Studies - UBC
> 26. fans
> 27. Magic eye painted glass
> 28. Curious question (2)
> 29. Designer seeks "Hall of Fame"
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 24 Oct 1996 20:46:02 -0400
>From:    NyRanger4 <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: museum directory
>
>In article <[log in to unmask]>, "Jane S. Becker"
><[log in to unmask]> writes:
>
>>Does anyone know if the AAM's Museum Directory is available on-line, and
>if
>>so, how to access it?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Jane Becker
>>
>>
>
>I am not sure if this will help, but I would start by looking at their web
>site.
>http://www.americanmuse.org/aam
>
>good luck
>Arthur Fleischmann
>http://funrsc.fairfield.edu/~8_mapuzz/art/homepage/
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 00:27:18 -0400
>From:    "Robert A. Baron" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Shows at the National Gallery of Art
>
>At 05:53 PM 10/24/96 -0400, Hank wrote:
>
>>     The Washington Post gave it mixed reviews. Paul Richard in Style gave
>>it a rave. In the Weekend section (tomorrow), I describe it as a
>>well-mounted retrospective of an artist who started strong but finished
>>rather weakly because of his excessive infatuation with Caravaggio.
>>
>>    It's a fascinating show, and besides, any excuse for visiting the
>>National Gallery is a good one.
>
>Hank, come on!  Sure La Tour is classified as a northern Carravigist
>painter, but to say that he suffers from an infatuation with Caravaggio
>seems to ignore the vast difference in style and purpose between the two.
>It is not even clear that he saw any Caravaggios.  If there is an
>infatuation, it is with an idea, not an image, this is the idea that light
>and the absence thereof can be used to compose a painting.  But whereas
>Caravaggio uses light to bring out the dynamics of human action and emotion,
>La Tour uses light to model structure, underline stasis, express calm and
>promote medidation.  Indeed, the penchant for interior scenes lit with a
>single source of light, quite common among the northern Caravaggisti, has no
>counterpart among the works of the Italian master.  If the privately
>commissioned works (and some public ones) by Caravaggio contain hidden or
>emblematic meanings that cater to the sophisticated homoerotic tastes of his
>patrons, La Tour has none of that.  Instead, as, for example in the Berlin
>St. Sebastian, the full force of developed counter-reformation stylistic
>idiology has come into play.  The event from Saint Sebastian's life that is
>portrayed, is the moment when he is taken down from the tree and tended to
>by the nurse Irene. (?) La Tour poses it to make it consonant with and evoke
>images of the life of Christ, here, the deposition.  La Tour may not be the
>great master that Caravaggio was, but to pit one against the other forces
>observers to misconstrue, I think, their separate and unique messages.
>
>I, for one, intend to see this show.  Do you know the dates?  Will it be in
>D.C. over Xmas?
>
>Robt
>
>==================================
>Robert A. Baron
>Museum Computer Consultant
>P.O. Box 93, Larchmont, NY  10538
>[log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:05:25 EST
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: open Collections Storage
>
>The Australian War Memorial opened a new storage building, called the
>Treloar Centre, in April 1994. We really wanted a building to enable us to
>display our collection of large technology items, but we desperately needed
>some decent storage room, so we reached a compromise in which our new
>storage area has an enclosed elevated walkway for the public to view the
>stored collection.
>
>The Treloar building is about 10 kilometres from the main Memorial
>building, and does not have any commemorative function. We charge a modest
>entry fee, and have an Information Assistant in the walkway to answer
>queries etc., and there are photographs, paintings small displays and text
>panels adjacent to major items. For a larger fee guided tours are conducted
>on the floor, but these are usually reserved for special interest groups,
>and we insist on group bookings to make it financially viable for us.
>
>After a relatively slow start due to poor street signage & lack of P.R. the
>attendance figures have become large enough for us to make it worthwhile to
>be open to the public. We currently open the building to the public on
>Wednesdays and Sundays, and Monday to Thursday during school holidays. If
>visitor demand increases then we will consider opening more frequently. The
>feedback that we have had from visitors has been excellent, with many
>suggesting that they would still come if the admission fee was higher than
>it is.
>
>George Bailey
>Objects Conservator
>Australian War Memorial
>Treloar Centre for Conservation
>4 Callan St, Mitchell, A.C.T. 2911
>Australia
>Phone: +61 6 241 6122
>fax:   +61 6 241 7998
>email: [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 24 Oct 1996 22:40:34 -0400
>From:    AlphaRed 6 <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Masters prog
>
>Both the University of Oklahoma, and the University of Central Oklahoma
>offer Masters courses in the museum field.  I am currently in the program
>at OU .
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:34:35 GMT
>From:    "Michelle K. Falzone" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Museum "Camp-ins"
>
>The Children's Museum in Boston has overnight programs for children.  You
>may want to contact them.   Their telephone number is(617)8855.
>
>Michelle  K. Falzone
>[log in to unmask]
>
>On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, James McCabe wrote:
>
>> Henry Ford Museum is developing a camp-in program.  This consists of a
>> variety of evening activities around the Museum, followed by a sleep over
>> on the museum floor.  The program is being developed to accomodate about
>> 200 kids and chaperones (at a roughly 1 to 10 ratio).  The target
>> audience right now are girl scout troops and the like.
>>
>> We would be interested in hearing what the experience of others who have
>> done this type of program has been.  What makes them successful, what are
>> the potential pitfalls, and so on.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jim McCabe
>> Collections Management & Care
>> Henry Ford Museum & Greenfield Village
>> Dearborn, MI 48121
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 07:05:10 +0000
>From:    "Harry Needham (Tel 776-8612)" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: New Mission Statements
>
>The Canadian Museum of Civilization and Canadian War Museum (and, I'm sure, the
>other national museums of Canada), viz.,
>
>The Canadian Museum of Nature
>The National Gallery of Canada
>The National Museum of Science and Technology
>The National Aviation Museum
>The Canadian Museum of Contemporary Photography
>
>The Glenbow in Calgary also rewrote its mission statement as part of a
>largescale reorganization a few years ago.
>
>Harry Needham
>Canadian War Museum
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:06:41 -0400
>From:    Hank Burchard <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Shows at the National Gallery of Art
>
>On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Robert A. Baron wrote:
>
>> At 05:53 PM 10/24/96 -0400, Hank wrote:
>>
>> >     The Washington Post gave it mixed reviews. Paul Richard in Style gave
>> >it a rave. In the Weekend section (tomorrow), I describe it as a
>> >well-mounted retrospective of an artist who started strong but finished
>> >rather weakly because of his excessive infatuation with Caravaggio.
>> >
>> >    It's a fascinating show, and besides, any excuse for visiting the
>> >National Gallery is a good one.
>>
>> Hank, come on!  Sure La Tour is classified as a northern Carravigist
>> painter, but to say that he suffers from an infatuation with Caravaggio
>> seems to ignore the vast difference in style and purpose between the two.
>> It is not even clear that he saw any Caravaggios.  If there is an
>> infatuation, it is with an idea, not an image, this is the idea that light
>> and the absence thereof can be used to compose a painting.  But whereas
>> Caravaggio uses light to bring out the dynamics of human action and emotion,
>> La Tour uses light to model structure, underline stasis, express calm and
>> promote medidation.  Indeed, the penchant for interior scenes lit with a
>> single source of light, quite common among the northern Caravaggisti, has no
>> counterpart among the works of the Italian master.  If the privately
>> commissioned works (and some public ones) by Caravaggio contain hidden or
>> emblematic meanings that cater to the sophisticated homoerotic tastes of his
>> patrons, La Tour has none of that.  Instead, as, for example in the Berlin
>> St. Sebastian, the full force of developed counter-reformation stylistic
>> idiology has come into play.  The event from Saint Sebastian's life that is
>> portrayed, is the moment when he is taken down from the tree and tended to
>> by the nurse Irene. (?) La Tour poses it to make it consonant with and evoke
>> images of the life of Christ, here, the deposition.
>
>  Yes, yes, yes and yes. But the St. Sebastian, like many of La Tour's
>mature works, looks like a painting of a wood carving.
>
>> La Tour may not be the
>> great master that Caravaggio was, but to pit one against the other forces
>> observers to misconstrue, I think, their separate and unique messages.
>
>  It is not I but the National Gallery of Art (and the Kimbell) who have
>pitted them mano a mano. It's my belief that La Tour might have become a
>master of the first rank had he not been infected with tenebrism.
>
>> I, for one, intend to see this show.
>
>  If you think I was trying to warn patrons away, you misread me. It's a
>terrific show.
>
>  Do you know the dates?  Will it be in
>> D.C. over Xmas?
>
>  It runs through January 5, then moves to the Kimbell (Fort Worth)
>February 2 - May 10.
>
>     Hank Burchard * <[log in to unmask]> * Washington DC | USA
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:10:24 -0400
>From:    Children's Museum <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: New Mission Statements
>
>At 02:46 PM 10/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>I am looking for information on museums that have revised or rewritten their
>>mission statements in the past 20 years.  Does anyone know of any such
>>institutions?
>>
>>Please respond off-list to [log in to unmask]  Thank you for your assistance.
>>
>>Catherine Lewis
>>American Studies
>>University of Iowa
>>
>>
>
>Hi Catherine
>
>We rewrote our mission statement this year.  We had one that was three
>paragraph long and it is now three words. "Learning, Experiencing and
>Creating."  If you would like more information on the process, please
>contact me.
>
>Timothy S. Allen
>Children's Museum
>311 Main St.
>Utica, NY 13501
>315-724-6129
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:25:00 GMT
>From:    Dave Lawrence <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Art Science connections
>
>Ivy Strickler wrote:
>>
>> I haven't been following this thread,
>
>Me either, but I do remember an issue of "Scientific American" called
>'Science and the Arts' from 1995.  I can not find my copy so don't ask
>for a Volume or Issue.
>
>It was a reprint of several articles they had run over the decades.  I
>do remember one that dated to 1958 and one from 1995.
>
>Hope it can be of use.
>
>James E. May
>Curator of Fine Arts
>Indiana State Museum and Historic Sites
>[log in to unmask]
>
>*** currently using a friend's account [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:13:44 -0500
>From:    Susan Patterson <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Camp-ins
>
>The St. Louis Science Center and the St. Louis Zoo both offer camp-in
>opportunities for the Cub Scouts in our region.  Speaking as a Cub Scout
>leader who has slept on those hard floors I can say that lack of sleep was
>the only downside of the activity.  The kids (and adults) were thoroughly
>engaged -- we had eight kids with three adult leaders.  This may sound like
>a high ratio of adults to kids, but in this case more is better!  I would
>encourage any start up camp-in endeavor to tap into an existing structure,
>i.e., scouts, clubs, etc.  These groups are always searching for meaningful
>programming, and have their own 'rules' about how meetings can be conducted.
>For example, cubs scouts REQUIRE a minimum of two adults at every meeting,
>regardless of the number of children.
>Susan Patterson
>Manager of Information Services
>The Saint Louis Art Museum
>(314) 721-0072 x278
>[log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:40:11 -0400
>From:    Children's Museum <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Space Exhibit
>
>Hi Everyone!
>
>I am working with a group of gifted and talented students.  As a class
>project, they are going to update our space exhibit.  We are looking for
>ideas about hands-on, interactive space exhibits for children.  Any and all
>ideas are greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank You!
>
>Elaine A Rotenberry
>Program Director
>
>Children's Museum
>311 Main St
>Utica NY 13501
>(315) 724-6129
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:42:30 -0400
>From:    Anne Lane <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Camp-ins
>
>My husband is Director of Christian Education at a Presbyterian church.  He
>calls them "lock-ins" rather than sleep-ins, for reasons others have given
>here.  Anyhow, youth ministers and DCEs are great resources for
>get-acquainted games and group-building activities that could be tailored
>for museum use, as well as practical advice about unruliness, kids-to-adults
>ratios, elderly bodies on hard floors, meals and snacks, whatever you need
>to know.  If you need any book titles for reading about the above subjects,
>let me know and I'll get you a bibliography; if you'd like to talk to Robert
>I can send you his phone #.
>Anne Lane
>Curatorial Assistant
>Museum of York County
>4621 Mt. Gallant Road
>Rock Hill, SC  29732-9905
>803-329-2121 ext 122  *  [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 12:23:07 -0400
>From:    Rose Marie Martin <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: ADA & historic homes
>
>For information on ADA requirements involving historic
>buildings, contact:
>
>The National Trust for Historic Preservation in Washington,
>DC.  There is a Mid-Atlantic office for the NTHP in your area
>that you might contact also.  The State Historic Preservation
>Officer of your state also has information.
>
>The National Trust for Historic Preservation has a web page
>that might be helpful.  There is also a Preservation Brief on
>ADA regulations.
>
>Rose Marie Martin
>Germanna Foundation
>PO Box 693
>Culpeper, VA  22701
>E Mail:  [log in to unmask]
>Web Page:  http://www.summit.net/GERMANNA/
>--- On Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:14:06 -0400  Ivy Strickler
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone point me in the right direction for finding out
>if exceptions
>>can be made to the ADA guidelines for lodging adaptations if
>the lodging is
>>in a National Register home? I know this is somewhat off the
>museum target,
>>but hope that some of you who are involved with historic
>houses may have
>>dealt with this. Thanks for any info, names or sites you can
>share.
>>
>>ivy
>>
>>
>>Ivy Fleck Strickler                     Phone 215-895-1637
>>Drexel University                       Fax 215-895-4917
>>Nesbitt College of Design Arts          [log in to unmask]
>>Philadelphia, PA 19104
>>
>>"Never forget that life is like a Fellini movie, and you're getting to see
>>it for free."
>>
>
>-----------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
>-------------------------------------
>Name: Rose Marie Martin
>E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>Date: 10/25/96
>Time: 12:03:31 PM
>
>This message was sent by Chameleon
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:52:43 GMT
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Is there a good Museum Ticket Sales System?
>
>[log in to unmask] (Troy McCormick) wrote:
>
>>I am working with a new museum that has experienced 60,000 visitors in the
>>first two months and the visitation is still holding at 800 per day.  The
>>ticket window for purchasing tickets for the orientation theater
>>presentation (fist stop in their museum experience) sells tickets and
>>visitors line up waiting for the every 20 minute showing. I want to
>>eliminate the need to wait in line by selling tickets with a time stamp on
>>them.
>
>>I am looking for some off the shelf, or at least field tested software,
>>that will allow advance ticket sales, print the time of show for which the
>>ticket was sold, and total ticket sales at the end of the day.  It seems
>>easy, but the museums and movie theaters in my area don't really have
>>anything that seems to work well.
>
>>Any suggestions or warnings, would be appreciated.
>
>>Troy McCormick
>>[log in to unmask]
>
>>--
>>Troy McCormick
>Look at www.2btech.com for info on VISTA
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:00:38 -0400
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Souvenir pens
>
>I posted this message a few months ago and got wonderful responses.  But I
>still am on a pen quest
>
>I am looking for souvenir "floating" pens from museums and historic sites.
> These pens have a boat or carriage that floats back and forth when the pen
>is tilted.  If you have these in your museum gift shops - OR if you have seen
>any in your travels - Please tell me!  I greatly appreciate it - and would
>love to hear from other floaty collectors.
>
>Nancy Knechtel
>Art History Professor
>Niagara University, NY
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:01:30 -0400
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Revised Mission Statement Request
>
>I have recieved an overwhelming response to my request for information on new
>mission statements and want to specify the kind of information I need.
>
>When did your institution revise their mission statement?
>What was the impetus for the revision?
>Send along (if possible) a copy of the old and new statement.
>
>
>This would be a great help.  Thank you for the speedy and friendly replies.
>
>
>If the information is too bulky for email - send to Catherine M. Lewis, 925-B
>Drewry Street, Atlanta, GA 30306.
>
>Please respond off-list.
>
>Best to everyone,
>Catherine Lewis
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 12:05:11 -0700
>From:    joanna <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Books on Current Computer Technology and Museums
>
>Hello! My name is Joanna Ebenstein. I work for Altamira press, a publishing
>house which specializes in AASHL books and other books that would be of
>interest to historians, epecially at a local level. I am presently trying to
>locate a good, up-to-date book that covers computer methods for museums. If
>anyone could recommend any such books, I would appreciate it. Also, if
>anyone noticed any particularly gaping voids on this topic, please let me
>know. We are currently trying to commission a book on the topic and would be
>interested in knowing what needs,if any, exist. Thanks!
>Joanna Ebenstein
>Mitch Allen
>Publisher
>AltaMira Press
>1630 North Main Street, Suite 367
>Walnut Creek, California 94596
>510 938-7243 (voice) 933-9720 (fax)
>[log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:34:14 EDT
>From:    Pamela Hudson <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: 1997 Smithsonian Institution Fellowship Program
>
>***************************************************
>Please forward to appropriate lists and individuals.
>
>Apologies for any cross-posting.
>***************************************************
>
>The Smithsonian Institution encourages access to its
>collections, staff specialties, and reference resources by
>visiting scholars, scientists, and students.  The
>Institution offers in-residence appointments for research
>and study using its facilities, and the advice and guidance
>of its staff members.
>
>SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM
>
>The Smithsonian Institution offers fellowships for research
>and study in fields which are actively pursued by the
>museums and research organizations of the Institution.
>
>At present these fields are:
>
>     Animal behavior, ecology, and environmental
>       science, including an emphasis on the tropics
>     Anthropology, including archaeology,
>     Astrophysics and astronomy
>     Earth sciences and paleobiology
>     Evolutionary and systematic biology
>     History of science and technology
>     History of art, especially American, contemporary,
>      African, and Asian art, twentieth-century
>      American crafts, and decorative arts
>     Social and cultural history of the United States
>     Folklife
>
>POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS are offered to scholars who have
>held the degree or equivalent for less than seven years.
>SENIOR FELLOWSHIPS are offered to scholars who have held the
>degree or equivalent for seven years or more.  The term is 3
>to 12 months.  Both fellowships offer a stipend of $25,000
>per year plus allowances.
>
>PREDOCTORAL FELLOWSHIPS are offered to doctoral candidates
>who have completed preliminary course work and examinations.
>Candidates must have the approval of their universities to
>conduct doctoral research at the Smithsonian Institution.
>The term is 3 to 12 months. The stipend is $14,000 per year
>plus allowances.
>
>GRADUATE STUDENT FELLOWSHIPS are offered to students
>formally enrolled in a graduate program of study, who have
>completed at least one semester, and not yet have been
>advanced to candidacy if in a Ph.D. Program. The term is 10
>weeks; the stipend is $3,000.
>
>These fellowships support research in residence at all
>Smithsonian facilities except the Smithsonian Astrophysical
>Observatory (see below).
>
>Postmark deadline for submission - January 15, 1997
>
>Stipends are prorated for periods of less than twelve
>months.
>
>FELLOWSHIPS AT THE SMITHSONIAN ASTROPHYSICAL OBSERVATORY
>
>Applicants interested in conducting research at the
>Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory should write to the
>Office of the Director, Smithsonian Astrophysical
>Observatory, 60 Garden Street, Cambridge, MA  02138 for
>program information, application materials, and deadlines.
>
>
>Fellowship Applications, supporting materials, and
>information on other Smithsonian Institution fellowhsip and
>internship programs can be retrieved at the following
>address (but they must be submitted by postal mail):
>
>          http://www.si.edu/research+study
>
>or by contacting:
>
>          Office of Fellowships and Grants
>          Smithsonian Institution
>          955 L'Enfant Plaza, Suite 7000
>          Washington, D.C. 20560
>          (202) 287-3271
>or
>          E-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>                    (Please include mailing
>                     address for requested
>                     materials)
>
>***************************************************************
>Pamela E. Hudson, Academic Programs Specialist
>Office of Fellowships and Grants        Smithsonian Institution
>[log in to unmask]                      phone: (202) 287-3271
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:36:27 -0500
>From:    Fielding S Freed <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Dioramas/Mini-dioramas
>
>        Greetings All,
>        I am in search of information regarding the design,
>implementation, and theoretical aspects of dioramas and mini-dioramas. So
>far, all I've found is Christopher Steiner's review of the "Worlds in
>Miniature..."exhibit review in Museum Anthropology, vol. 15, no.2. 1991.
>        Any others out there? Specifically, I want to get at the ways in which
>dioramas interpret anthropological issues (i.e. are they functioning
>merely as contexts for artifacts; and what about mini-dioramas where
>EVERYTHING, including the artifacts, is "artificial").
>         Your help is appreciated.
>                                sincerely,
>                                Fielding Freed
>                                Museum Studies student
>                                Anthropology Department
>                                University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>                                [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:50:11 -0400
>From:    "Robert A. Baron" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Shows at the National Gallery of Art
>
>At 08:06 AM 10/25/96 -0400, Hank wrote:
>
>>  Yes, yes, yes and yes. But the St. Sebastian, like many of La Tour's
>>mature works, looks like a painting of a wood carving.
>>
>>> La Tour may not be the
>>> great master that Caravaggio was, but to pit one against the other forces
>>> observers to misconstrue, I think, their separate and unique messages.
>>
>>  It is not I but the National Gallery of Art (and the Kimbell) who have
>>pitted them mano a mano. It's my belief that La Tour might have become a
>>master of the first rank had he not been infected with tenebrism.
>
>I'm sure that no one, including Hank, sincerely believes that the Berlin St.
>Sebastian is derived from a wood carving.  Yet, the observation has
>substance; the work certainly has a wooden quality.  Saying that a work is
>"infected" with tenebrism is like saying that Motherwell is "infected" with
>abstract expressionism or Picasso with Cubism.  These styles and techniques
>are means to an end.  In the end the "infection" of tenebrism may have
>served as an effective palliative to the infected in plague-stricken
>Lorraine where La Tour worked.
>
>
>
>==================================
>Robert A. Baron
>Museum Computer Consultant
>P.O. Box 93, Larchmont, NY  10538
>[log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:33:49 GMT
>From:    "Craig d`Arcy" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Privatization of municipal museums
>
>A colleague in the provincial Ministry of Citizenship, Culture and
>Recreation has asked me to make inquiries on her behalf.
>
>Is anyone aware of a municipally owned and operated heritage facility
>where management has been contracted out to a private sector operator
>(partticularly in the case of a recreational services operator)?
>Canadian examples would be particularly useful, but I'd also be
>interested in U.S. cases. (State-owned facilities would also be useful.)
>
>Reply off-list, please.
>
>Craig d'Arcy
>Executive Director
>West Parry Sound District Museum
>Box 337,
>Parry Sound, Obntario
>P2A  2X4
>
>Tel. (705)746-5365
>Fax      (705)746-8775
>
>[log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:10:15 GMT
>From:    "Dill, Christopher L" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Suggested Donation
>
>Can anyone point me toward research regarding whether it is
>more productive to use donation box signs which list a
>recommended dollar amount (e.g., "Suggested Donation $2.00")
>or just a sign which says "Donations Appreciated?"
>
>TIA  Chris Dill
>
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>C. L. Dill, Museum Director
>State Historical Society of North Dakota
>612 East Boulevard
>Bismarck  ND  58505-0830
>P: (701)328-2666
>F: (701)328-3710
>E:  [log in to unmask]
>Visit our Web site at: http://www.state.nd.us/hist/
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:17:35 -0700
>From:    "T. Preston" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Museum Archival Supplies Handbook
>
>Does anyone out there know if the Museum Archival Supplies Handbook by the
>Ontario Museum Association has been updated since 1985?  That's the latest
>one I can find.
>
>Does the Ontario Museum Association have a toll-free number?  (Sorry, I'm
>a poor grad student!)
>
>Thanks,  Toni Preston
>         Univ. of Washington
>         Museology
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:18:57 EDT
>From:    Henry Grunder <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Suggested Donation
>
>How about "No Reasonable Offer Refused"?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:20:15 GMT
>From:    "Dill, Christopher L" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: NAGPRA-L???
>
>A Museum-L posting earlier this week mentioned "NAGPRA-L."
>If anyone has the address and commands for such a list,
>please send it to me off-line.
>
>TIA
>
>Chris Dill
>
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>C. L. Dill, Museum Director
>State Historical Society of North Dakota
>612 East Boulevard
>Bismarck  ND  58505-0830
>P: (701)328-2666
>F: (701)328-3710
>E:  [log in to unmask]
>Visit our Web site at: http://www.state.nd.us/hist/
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:23:22 -0400
>From:    Genevieve M LeMoine <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Austin Cooley and other requests
>
>I am a relative newcomer to the list, and have two rather different requests.
>1.  I am trying to track down information about a picture transmission
>system developed I beleive in the 1920s or 1930s by Austin Cooley.  My
>search through histories of technology, who's who etc has not shed any
>light on either the man or the system.  Any information would be appreciated.
>
>2.  We are looking for a ptarmigan (or two, one in summer and one in
>winter plummage) for our display of Arctic species.  Does anyone have an
>extra one lying around?
>
>Pleas Reply off-list.
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Genevieve LeMoine
>Curator/Registrar
>The Peary-MacMillan Arctic Museum
>Bowdoin College,
>Brunswick, Maine  04011
>(207)725-3304     [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:29:48 -0400
>From:    "bc71171 (Olivia Campos)" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: 1997 Smithsonian Institution Fellowship Program
>
>Hi,
>  I'm a new reader on this list and it seems a bit more inexperienced
>than the rest of you.  I am a senior in college and currently looking for
>a 1 year paid internship (maybe leading to a full-time job) in a museum.
>My main areas of study are archaeology or medical anthropology.  Any
>museum in the New York City area would be wonderful.  I'm looking for
>contacts or addresses to receive more info.  Any help would do.  Thanks.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:23:50 -0600
>From:    Joseph Mella <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Contract Samples
>
>We are in the process of developing a contract for an outside curator. I
>was curious if those who had contracted with curators might be willing to
>share a copy of their contract/agreement. I will be meeting with our
>legal department on Monday. It would be great to bring a few samples to
>the meeting. (Sorry about the short notice!)
>
>
>********************************************
>Joseph S. Mella
>Vanderbilt University Fine Arts Gallery
>P.O. Box 1801 Station B
>Nashville, TN 37235
>Phone: 615/343-1704
>FAX:615/343-1382
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:41:10 -0400
>From:    Karl Niederer <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Civil War flag display
>
>N.J. State Museum and N.J. State Archives request for advice re design
>and construction of climate- and light-controlled display case for
>proposed changing exhibit of fragile Civil War flags.  Museum staff will
>fabricate case prototype.  Anyone who has had experience with this type
>of display can respond directly to <[log in to unmask]>
>
>Thanks.  --Karl J. Niederer
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:09:55 -0800
>From:    Alison Moore <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Stanchions?
>
>     Here's an easy(?) question for people on this list. As an archivist
>     with increasing museum duties, I need a good museum supply catalogue
>     source. Specifically I'm looking for the old velvet or leather covered
>     ropes used to form lines in museums/theaters, etc. (or some more hip
>     counterpart.) If anyone has a catalogue to recommend I'd be greatful.
>     I've conquered many hurdles but this one's really hanging me up!
>
>     Thanks, in advance,
>
>
>     Alison Moore
>     Pacific Bell Museum
>     San Francisco
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:04:33 -0400
>From:    "Robert A. Baron" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Books on Current Computer Technology and Museums
>
>At 12:05 PM 10/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>I am presently trying to
>>locate a good, up-to-date book that covers computer methods for museums. If
>>anyone could recommend any such books, I would appreciate it. Also, if
>>anyone noticed any particularly gaping voids on this topic, please let me
>>know. We are currently trying to commission a book on the topic and would be
>>interested in knowing what needs,if any, exist. Thanks!
>>Joanna Ebenstein
>>Mitch Allen
>>Publisher
>>AltaMira Press
>
>In general I'd say that the field is so fluid and is progressing at such a
>rapid pace that a "book" on computers in museums is bound to be out of date
>before it sees the light of day.  That is what has happened to previous
>efforts in this area.  ...and accordingly, even if such a book does speak to
>current issues, there is little chance that future sales will warrant the
>up-front costs of production.  Most of the most important literature comes
>by way of journal articles, symposia and conferences.
>
>Nonetheless you may wish to look up the Museum Computer Network in the USA
>(write to [log in to unmask]) or the Museum Documentation Association (MDA) in
>the UK.  MCN publishes a journal (Spectra) that is of interest.  Other
>publishers in this field include David Bearman, whose journal Archives and
>Museum Informatics is widely respected.  You may consider putting out a book
>of essays on significant topics -- that has been done befoe -- instead of
>attempting to survey the arena.
>
>
>==================================
>Robert A. Baron
>Museum Computer Consultant
>P.O. Box 93, Larchmont, NY  10538
>[log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:40:15 -0700
>From:    Carol Mayer <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Museum Studies - UBC
>
>Hi, we are still receiving daily enquiries about this programme so we have
>added the application to our web page:
>http://www.arts.ubc.ca/arts/moa/certif.htm and extended the deadline to
>November 30th!   Thank you for the great responses we have received, and are
>still receiving!   If you have any questions please contact me.
>
>Carol E. Mayer
>Director
>Museum Studies Programme
>Museum of Anthropology
>University of British Columbia
>6393 NW Marine Drive,
>British Columbia, V6T1Z2
>Canada.
>
>phone: 604-822-8224
>fax:   604-822-2974
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 21:15:21 -0400
>From:    "Andrea P. Barrett" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: fans
>
>While at the Strong Museum last summer i worked on their 100+ fan
>collection and compiled a bibliograpy and treatment files and any misc.
>info I could find.  I would be happy to share with others.  please contact
>me off line for more info.  I also recently went to a lace making workshop
>in Ithica NY where the keynote speaker talked on her experinces in
>restoring old lace fans.
>
>Andrea Barrett
>[log in to unmask]
>soon to be employee of the Cleveland Museum of Art.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:07:07 GMT
>From:    Donald Sucha <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Magic eye painted glass
>
>Mulder, you're NUTS!! -Scully ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
>: A friend of mine has a whole bag full of "magic eye" prints which she
>: describes as a wooden frame with a circle of painted glass in the middle
>: which has a portrait or scene painted on it.  They are obviously rather
>: old and no one she has talked to at antique shops knows anything about them.
>: Art really isn't my field.  If anyone knows anything about these prints or
>: where she could find information about them we'd be grateful.
>
>Could these actually be "magic lantern" slides?  The size of the objects
>would be a clue.
>
>--
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>        They promised us
>                A life of leisure,
>        They gave us
>                Life long learning.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>[log in to unmask]          http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dsucha
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Or try my dog's home page;  http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dsucha/randy.html
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 21:20:10 -0700
>From:    Janis Wilkens <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: NAGPRA-L???
>
>NAGPRA-L
>     Discussion of Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act
>-- send message "subscribe nagpra-l" to
>     [log in to unmask]
>
>
>--
>Janis Beth Wilkens
>Curator of Collections/Interim Director
>Museum of York County
>4621 Mt. Gallant Road, Rock Hill, SC  29732
>803-329-2121    Fax:  803-329-5249
>mailto:[log in to unmask]
>http://www.cetlink.net/commercial/myco/mycohome.html
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:02:09 -0800
>From:    "Paula B. Freedman" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Souvenir pens
>
>Nancy,
>
>I know I responded to your original request, noting the strange and
>wondrous array of "floating pens" available at the Cliff House gift shop in
>San Francisco. Recently I came upon a fresh batch of pens at the Monterey
>Bay Aquarium. Theirs had sea otters and other ocean critters floating
>about. You might contact them for their source. What a fun project you seem
>to be working on!
>Good luck,
>Paula
>San Francisco
>
>>I posted this message a few months ago and got wonderful responses.  But I
>>still am on a pen quest
>>
>>I am looking for souvenir "floating" pens from museums and historic sites.
>> These pens have a boat or carriage that floats back and forth when the pen
>>is tilted.  If you have these in your museum gift shops - OR if you have seen
>>any in your travels - Please tell me!  I greatly appreciate it - and would
>>love to hear from other floaty collectors.
>>
>>Nancy Knechtel
>>Art History Professor
>>Niagara University, NY
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:11:00 -0400
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Souvenir pens
>
>Hi Paula!
>
>I believe you were from the Western NY area - I answered your e mail and by
>the time I was ready to send it cyberspace had eaten your address.  I did
>call the Cliff House and got some super pens - they were very nice too!
>
>What area were you from again? When was the last time you were in the area?
> Glad to hear from you again!
>
>Best Wishes
>Nancy Knechtel
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:13:21 -0400
>From:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Curious question
>
>Asking the experts is fun
>
>What are the BEST DESIGNED museums you have been to?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:42:53 -0400
>From:    MusmDesign <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Designer seeks "Hall of Fame"
>
>I am not seeking fame per se but doing research on "Hall of Fame"
>installations in the United States.  I am having a problem locating the
>United States Figure Skating Association Hall of Fame.  My information
>puts its last location in Colorado Springs, Colorado, but a net search
>shows no address or information at that location.  Does anyone have a
>current address for same?
>
>Thank You,
>
>Lou Scrima
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:40:59 CST
>From:    Sharon Koomler <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Curious question
>
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>>Asking the experts is fun
>>
>>What are the BEST DESIGNED museums you have been to?
>
>
>Without a doubt (for me) the Holocaust Museum in DC.
>
>
>Sharon Duane Koomler
>Director of Education
>Shaker Museum at South Union
>PO Box 30
>South Union, Kentucky  42283
>(502) 542-7734
>e-mail [log in to unmask]
>
>"The attainments of tomorrow are dependent on the efforts of today,
>and are related to them as the blossom is to the bud,
>and the fruit to the blossom."
>
>                                  Eldress Catherine Allen, Mt. Lebanon
>
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>
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