I have to say that I enjoy both Chris' and David's posts.  I would hope that
they both continue.  I particularly found the discussion regarding having a
coke at the library interesting.  I have strong feelings and conflicted
feelings about the "selling of our heritage" or "recognized corporate
sponsorship."  To me the discussion was interested as people weighed in
across the spectrum.

I must admit to finding ironies within Indigo's rather "motherly"
chastisement.  To avoid contributing to those ironies that often show up
when we take others to task for their behavior, I will at this stage suggest
that we all get on with working towards a happy new year.  May that include
lively debates, healthy bickering, and thicker skins for all!


----- Original Message -----
From: "David E. Haberstich" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: Please Play Nice (Was Have A Coke and a Flame)


> In a message dated 00-12-27 12:56:08 EST, Indigo Nights wrote:
>
> << David, be a dear, and lighten up some.  I don't know
>  if you realize it, but a good volume of your posts to
>  the list come across as quite oppressive and border on
>  boorishness.  There is NO DOUBT that you are quite
>  learned and have much to offer.
>
>  But please don't talk down to the rest of us or
>  superimpose yourself and your opinions over the
>  others.   >>
>
> I realize that it would be better not to argue about this, but I feel a
need
> to defend myself just a little.  Perhaps the tone of my response to Chris
> came across as "talking down", and I've apologized for it separately.  But
I
> have to say, perhaps in a sense repeating what I wrote to Chris, that I
fail
> to see how an attempt to clarify my opinions constitutes "superimposing"
> myself and my opinions on others.  That's an overreaction, IMHO.
>
> I certainly don't want my posts to be regarded as "oppressive" or
bordering
> on "boorishness."  Incidentally, these are accusations which I personally
> would not make to anyone on the list, even if I thought them privately.
Talk
> about lightening up!
>
> But I'll take back my overly forceful response to Chris, and regret my
> crankiness.  This is what I should have said:
>
> Chris, I didn't say I objected to credit lines at all.  I think all
> contributors to an exhibit should get credits.  I argued in favor of them
in
> a previous thread, and restated this opinion in the recent post.  What I
said
> was that I think corporate logos look too much like advertising, so I
prefer
> plain-text credits.
>
> David Mea Culpa Haberstich, trying to be a dear :-)
>
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