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"Mary L. Kirby" <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:21:05 -0500
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David,

For once I disagree with you. I did not consider the Nightline message we
received yesterday as spam but more of an FYI. As a result, I did watch
the program tho' usually I switch off before it airs.

Considering how the tempers flew in this space with the first discussion
started, I felt it important to get an update on what has happened since
April. As Ted Koppel stated at the beginning of the program, the
disadvantage of being a news organization with daily deadlines is that
there is rarely the time to get a full perspective of an event. Followup
is not only useful but essential.

Had I not had the note, I probably would not have caught the show. Thanks
Bess.

Mary Kirby
Historic Upshur Museum

On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 00:25:27 EDT "David E. Haberstich"
<[log in to unmask]> writes:
> In a message dated 6/10/2003 3:45:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> << It was seen as one of the first major failures of the U.S. rule
> of
> post-Saddam Iraq. In the wave of looting that engulfed Baghdad after
> Saddam fell, the
> museums were supposed to have been badly hit. Remember, Iraq is the
> home of
> Babylon, the cradle of civilization. Thousands of priceless
> antiquities were
> supposed to have been lost while American troops stood by and did
> nothing. It
> was all over the press, Nightline included. Now it's an old cliché
> that truth is
> the first casualty in war. And as ABC News correspondent Hillary
> Brown will
> report from Baghdad tonight, the truth behind this story is somewhat
> different.
> It turns out that almost all of the pieces are safe..  >>
>
> I read this too late to watch the show, so I don't know if the
> following
> question was answered.  I've seen the recent newspaper accounts
> about the good
> news that far fewer artifacts were stolen than originally reported,
> but nowhere
> in them or in the above message have I seen an assessment of what
> was
> vandalized or destroyed.  Yet the news photographs which were
> distributed after the
> raids on the museum showed horrendous scenes of destruction with
> objects which
> had been on display apparently having suffered severe damage.  What
> was the
> damage toll?  Why hasn't this been reported in detail?  Surely these
> were not all
> replicas?  While there was understandable confusion about how many
> items were
> actually stolen, given the complexities of the situation and
> uncertainty about
> what was truly missing vs. hidden elsewhere, it seems to me that it
> would be
> much easier to compile a listing of the damaged artifacts.  Why has
> there been
> so much emphasis on theft with so little attention to vandalism?  It
> seems to
> me that something still doesn't add up.
>
> And another question: since this message advertises a TV program,
> why should
> it not be considered thinly disguised spam?
>
> David Haberstich
>
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