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Delaware Teachers with MA and certification make $65,000 after 3 years, I
know thats what my wife earns, so his figures are not far off.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deb Fuller" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 7:44 PM
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> Okay, I have to throw the BS flag on this one.
>
> --- Nicholas Burlakoff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Certified Teachers in Yonkers NY, with an MA and three years of
experience
> > earn $85,000. In Scarsdale, NY the median salary for teachers is
$95,000.
> > This is for an average of 180 days work per year, with excellent
benefits
> > and pension.
>
> A) No teacher works just 180 days per year. Most are taking classes over
the
> summer to get recertification points, moving their classrooms or packing
them
> up and unpacking them again because of maintenance work, and getting into
the
> classrooms early because there just isn't enough time in the week before
the
> kids start to get everything done. Teachers take work home with them. When
I
> student taught, I graded papers and did lesson plans at least 2 hours a
night.
> My cooperating teacher who had taught for 30 years was often up until 11pm
> doing work. If I did that at my government contractor job, I could start
to
> demand major comp time and overtime.
>
> B) Excellent benefits - sure, but they can't really use them. Try taking a
> 2-week vacation in the middle of the school year. You might have the leave
time
> but your class will be a wreck when you come back because good subs are
hard to
> find - not to mention all that extra time you'll spend planning for 2
weeks of
> a sub and then playing catch up once you return. Sick time? Good luck. If
there
> aren't subs to cover you, which is a problem in most places, you pretty
much
> have to come in. Heck, I was lucky to get a bathroom break when I taught.
I
> spent most of my student teaching with a horrid cold, no voice and raw
throat.
> My grandmother died while I was teaching and I was told if I really had to
take
> off, they couldn't stop me but I was strongly encouraged not to.
>
> As for pensions, maybe. They aren't as good as they used to be.
>
> >Most teachers are married, and if their spouse is also an
> > educator the income reaches the 5% highest in income for the US. There
are
> > also a number of profs who receive over $2,000,000 per year (mostly
surgery
> > MD's).  The point, salaries for teachers and profs depend on location
not
> > profession. The sheer number of teachers who earn substantially more
than
> > most sports players is also overwhelming.
>
> Show me the numbers Nick. According to the AP in December 2002: The
average
> major league baseball salary rose to nearly $2.3 million this year, a 7.3
> percent increase that was the smallest since 1998.
>
> I know school districts that are fighting for a 2% cost of living increase
and
> haven't gotten them in a few years. Show me one teacher - not a surgery,
MD -
> who is making $2.3 million. I guy I dated in college was a teacher in
> Shenandoah Co., VA and made about $20k/year with 5 years of experience.
His
> father, a preacher at a small church in Rome, NY made more than he did.
>
> Starting salaries where I am - Alexandria, VA are in the mid-high 30s,
> depending on education level. Average rent for a decent one-bedroom
apartment
> is $1000/month. Fixed-rent apartments are for salaries of about $35K and
below
> so teachers are just shy of getting into a $700/month fixed-rent
apartment.
> Given that $35K/year amounts to about $2200 a month net, spending half of
that
> on rent makes things really tight.
>
> A quick look on most public school web sites will quickly dispell the myth
of
> highly-paid teachers.
>
> Deb
>
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