I totally agree with Elizabeth you have to add to the list.  What I'm
 confused about is where the idea came from that you can't add to the list?
 I looked it up in my copy of revised nomenclature and it has a whole
section
 in the front of the book on how to appropriately add to the list.

 As far as your iron question.  The copy of revised nomenclature that I have
does not have flatiron in it.  Sadirons or  flat irons are a solid iron that
is either heated on the stove or is electric or gas powered.  The use of the
term iron would probably refer to the type of iron that is commom today that
can hold water and create stream, but i'm not sure about that.  If all of
you irons are 19th century styles (or very early 20th) or before then I
would use the term sadiron.  If you need assistance in identifying the types
of sadirons that you have, you should get some period or reproduction
hardware catalogs which will give you a large selection to compare yours to.

Tracie Evans, Curator of Collections
Stonefield Historic Site, SHSW
PO Box 125
Cassville WI 53806
608-725-5210
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martha Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Nomenclature Question
>
>
> > Elizabeth, I'll leave it to curators to define what the various irons
are,
> > although I've always thought that flatirons and sadirons were the
> > same--solid irons, and an iron with a chamber for holding coals was
called
> a
> > box iron.  However, Nomenclature does not have an entry for box iron--or
> > anything similar that I can find.  I, too, will be interested in having
> > various iron types defined.
> >
> > As for not being able to add to the Nomenclature list, I maintain that
you
> > have to, and so did Bob Chenhall, the originator of Nomenclature.  He
> stated
> > in a workshop I attended in Littleton, Colorado years ago that his
> intention
> > was to provide a framework for museums to add specific terms as needed.
> >
> > We maintain 22 historic sites across the state of NC with collections
> > ranging from Native American to mid-twentieth century artifacts, and we
> hold
> > some very eclectic items in our collections.  One such object is a
> > bag-turning machine.  It's sole function was to turn inside-out newly
sewn
> > cloth bags for smoking tobacco.  There is no entry in Nomenclature for
> such
> > a machine.  The closest two items that I can find are a Bag-closing
> Machine
> > or a Bag-tying Machine, but they are in Food Processing T&E.  Smoking
> > tobacco is NOT a food.  One other entry is a Bag-forming Machine, but it
> is
> > in Paper Processing T&E--the bag is cloth, not paper.  One other
> possibility
> > is a Seam Turner, but it is under Leather, Horn, Shellworking T&E.
> >
> > The authors of the revised Nomenclature may have said do not add to this
> > list, but I think their expectations were unrealistic and stray from the
> > original intention of Nomenclature.  I, for one, have added to the list
as
> > needed.  What are the Nomenclature authors going to do, slap my hand and
> > take my book away from me?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Martha Battle Jackson
> > Registrar
> > North Carolina Historic Sites
> > 4620 Mail Service Center
> > Raleigh, NC  27699-4620
> > (919) 733-7862, ext. 232; Fax: (919) 733-9515
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: elizabeth nohra <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:34 PM
> > Subject: Nomenclature Question
> >
> >
> > > Hi again everyone!  I have a question for anyone who might have an
> answer.
> > > First, what is the difference between an iron, flatiron, and a sadiron
> in
> > > THE REVISED NOMENCLATURE FOR MUSEUM CATALOGING?  I have over 120 irons
> and
> > I
> > > am really not sure.  My next question is this: How have you classified
> > > artifacts that do not show up in NOMENCLATURE at all? The book says
that
> > you
> > > cannot add to the list.  Please let me know. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Elizabeth Nohra
> > > Curatorial Assistant
> > > Mahoning Valley Historical Society
> > >
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