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Stephen,

The difference is that Cardinal Poupard understands that the universe
having a creator is a philosophical point of view that underpins his faith,
but that proving it is a non-issue because of the necessary separation of
faith and science. For such a man of faith, proof is irrelevant.

ID proponents do not understand that fact. Or more precisely refuse to do
so.

Believing the universe had a creator and trying to prove it with science
are two critically different things. The former is an entirely rational
human emotional response to the universe and our many millenia of history
and philosophy. The latter is irrational, anti-scientific, and painfully
convoluted to appear as something new and innovative.

Mark Janzen
Registrar/Collections Manager
Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art
Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection
Wichita State University
(316)978-5850


                                                                           
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Thanks for the article.  It indicated Cardinal Poupard to have said:

> He argued that the real message of Genesis was that the Universe did not
make
itself, and had a creator.

And then it said:

> In Rome, the immediate reaction was that this was a Vatican rejection of
the
fundamentalist American doctrine of "intelligent design."

Which I don't get at all.  Cardinal Poupard's argument above, so far as I
can tell, is indistinguishable from fundamentalist Intelligent Design in
its
final conclusion.



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