There have been several postings of late from job applicants expressing
their frustration with the job market and the interview process. With the
job market as it is at this time, there are a number of factors that
prospective applicants need to keep in mind. Many of these have been
previously stated by those posting to this list, but to sum them up:
1) Basic/Minimum Requirements: When an prospective applicant reads through
these for an opening, make sure that you not only meet them, but exceed
them. With the market as tight as it is, when an opening lists that a "BA"
is required, the job will usually be filled by someone with a "MA" or
better. Be aware of this, and if you just graduated with a "BA", understand
that most museum jobs will require graduate training. The only way to avoid
this is if you have prior experience as a paid museum employee. If you do
not meet the basic requirements, you should not apply, as it will be a waste
of time and money on the part of all concerned.
2) Informational Visit: Don't be afraid to make an informational visit to
the institution. While distance might not make this possible, it does help.
If the person reviewing your application has a face and experience to attach
to your name it may add to your chances of getting an interview. Likewise,
it will allow you "flush" out your application and give a bit more
information about yourself than is contained in your resume. Getting to
meet a potential interviewer beforehand also is a potential advantage, as
you will be able to get a handle on their personality and interests. It was
very helpful to be able to walk into my last interview and say "Good morning
XXXX, good to see you again."
3) Preparing for the Interview: Should you get an interview, be prepared.
Learn all you can about the museum, its history, current exhibits, and
focus. Show that you've done your research and are knowledgeable about
their institution. Answer their questions, don't talk around them or try to
bluff your way through. It's obvious when an applicant is doing so.
Lastly, the ultimate cliché: Be yourself, show what you can bring to the
position, and why you're the right choice.
4) Following Up: At the end of you interview, inquire as whether or not any
timetable has been set for filling the position. If they say that they hope
to have a decision in two weeks, then *wait* the specified time. If it
passes and you have not heard, call to inquire. Do this no more than once a
week until you have an answer. Do not contact the museum so frequently that
it becomes harassing. If they don't give you a timetable, then wait at
least ten days before making contact. As annoying as it is, you just need
to wait and bide you time. For my last job offer, I was told two weeks and
it ended up being closer to five.
5) Who You Know: As aggravating as it can be, the museum world is a
relatively tight-knit community, and who you know can play a role in landing
a position. If you have contacts that could help you, use them as your
references, and mention them as necessary. As a previous posting stated,
walking into an interview and saying, "Suzy Somebody told me that I should
contact you..." can mean a lot, and I agree. I have to admit my contacts
have assisted me in the past when looking for jobs. If you feel that you
lack contacts, a good way to build a network is by attending conferences.
These need not be large ones, such as AAM or AASLH, smaller regional
meetings such as MAAM and SMA (here in the Mid-Atlantic) work nicely as
well--while also providing a slightly more informal, inviting atmosphere for
first-time conference attendees.
I realize that frustration with the job market and hiring process is a
frequent issue on this list, but keeping the above in mind has worked for
me. I've been out of grad school (MA '00, U of Del. History/Museum Studies)
two years and have landed two positions as the curator at small to
medium-sized museums. Good luck to everyone who is scrounging through job
listings.
Ken Hickman
Curator/Historian
USS Constellation Museum
Baltimore, MD
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:14:51 -0400
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> I have two very large Oriental Silk Paintings I was given as a gift that
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> recently have been sitting in my basement collecting dust because I did
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> know what do with. Now I've decided I want to display them, the problem is
> they received water damage on part of the silk matting. Where should I
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water
> marks?
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> Thank You
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:32:42 +1000
> From: Chris Doerr <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Legal Responsibilities of Researching Provenance
>
> I am currently looking at the legal responsibilities of cultural
> institutions to research provenance on objects to be accessioned. I'm
> aware of standards and protocols for Holocaust-era acquisitions but I
> wonder if anyone can point me in the direction of information or
> resources that address this matter for non-contested materials or share
> information about your specific institution's procedures.
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> Regards,
> --
> chris
>
> Master of Arts Administration
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> Sydney, Australia
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> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:27:29 -0500
> From: Crystal Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: German Chancellor Scholarship program
>
> American and Russian museum professionals who wish to learn more about how
> museums work in Germany might like to know about the German Chancellor
> Scholarship program (see below). The Alexander von Humboldt Foundation is
> currently sponsoring two museums professionals during their fellowship
year
> in Germany. If you would like to know more about the program, visit
> www.humboldt-foundation.de or email me off-list.
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> Crystal Johnson
> 2002 German Chancellor Scholar
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>
> ____________________
> What About Germany?
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> Alexander von Humboldt Foundation
> German Chancellor Scholarship Program
>
> Ten German Chancellor Scholarships are awarded annually to highly
motivated
> individuals in the private, public, not-for-profit, cultural and academic
> sectors. The program sponsors individuals who demonstrate the potential to
> strengthen ties between Germany and the United States through their
> profession or studies.
>
> The scholarship provides for a stay of one year in Germany for
professional
> development, study, or research. Applicants design individual projects
> tailored to their professional development and goals and decide at which
> institutions to pursue them. Successful candidates have come from such
> fields as business, government, social and policy sciences, law,
journalism,
> communications, management, finance, economics, architecture, public
> service, humanities, arts and environmental affairs.
>
> The program begins September 1 and lasts twelve months. It is preceded in
> August by language classes taught in Germany. The monthly stipends range
> from EUR 2,000 to EUR 3,500 and special allowances are available for
> accompanying family members, travel expenses, and German language
> instruction. Candidates must be United States citizens, possess a
bachelor's
> degree by the start of the award, and should be under 35 years old.
Command
> of German is not a prerequisite.
>
> Applications and information can be found on the foundation's web site or
> may be obtained from the U.S. Liaison Office.
>
> http://www.humboldt-foundation.de/en/programme/stip_aus/buka.htm
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:03:48 -0400
> From: Timothy Wade <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
>
> I know all too well that feeling of sending applications off into the
> void. Several times with jobs that I have strongly desired I have called
> three or four weeks after to see if they even had my application and where
> the process was. Too forward? I don't know, but sitting around waiting for
> something to happen was just unbearable.
>
> Unfortunatly I've had scant nibbles for any kind of job offerings...so
> I've decided to go back to school and attempt my PhD in plain old history.
> I really feel that I have a lot to offer the museum profession, and maybe
> down the road after I've had a bit more life experience I'll be able to
> find a job. For now I must do something, and back to school it is.
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:13:21 -0500
> From: "Jon N. Austin" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring
>
> Indigo,
>
> Well said. Those of us in positions to hire staff need gentle reminders
> every so often. However, I believe that applicants also need instruction,
> which apparently isn't offered in school, as you suggested.
>
> I've seen too many young applicants express their frustration on this list
> over their inability to obtain employment in museums, and I've suspected
> that the problem may lie at the beginning of the process with the
> applicant's approach and a mis-matching of the applicant and the position.
> I've offered the same advice off-list to others based on fifteen years'
> experience hiring staff to work in small, local history museums. I, too,
> was faced with the same frustrations after grad school at age twenty-five,
> saying, "I can do THAT!" when I had nothing to back it up other than my
own
> self-confidence. Applicants need to set themselves up for success rather
> than for failure.
>
> First, please read the job posting carefully. As a potential employer,
> I've identified my institution's needs and resources, and I've crafted a
> summary of the responsibilities associated with the position. Through
> experience, I've determined the types of skills that I need in the new
> hire. I've identified the type of personality that will integrate with
> other members of our team. Candidates, please don't apply if you don't
> meet the minimums (education, skills, AND experience) on the off-chance
> that no one else is applying. While your enthusiasm is apparent, it will
> not compensate for a lack of experience or skill. You may be convinced
> that you can handle the job, but when comparing your material with others
I
> receive, you quickly fall to the bottom of the stack. In a small
> institution especially, I need staff who can hit the ground running
because
> I've been without a key staff member usually for a matter of months. If
> you lack appropriate experience, be creative and get some; you'll probably
> have to volunteer. In this day and age, your summer internship may not be
> competitive.
>
> If I ask for a resume, please don't send six pages. If I ask for the
names
> and telephone numbers, please don't send me six photocopied letters plus
> transcripts. Don't send me a photograph of yourself. If I ask for a
> writing sample, please make sure that your grammar and typing skills will
> impress me rather than undermine your chances. Follow-up calls are
> appropriate, but they can become annoying if placed too frequently. Dear
> applicant, please know that as the employer I'm reviewing scores of
resumes
> and can only select a limited number of prospects to consider seriously,
> hoping that I've selected the person with the right "fit" for my
> institution.
>
> When we get to the interview stage, please don't be late; also, don't be
an
> hour early. Dress in a manner appropriate for the position and its level
> of public contact. Do your homework; take time to read the material that
> I've sent you. I'm investing time in you, and I expect the same in
return.
>
> I hope that the above offers some insight to applicants to assist them in
> their job search.
>
> Jon N. Austin, Director
> Museum of Funeral Customs
> 1440 Monument Avenue
> Springfield, Illinois 62702
>
> 217-544-3480
> 217-544-3484 (fax)
> www.FuneralMuseum.org
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:58:24 -0400
> From: Timothy Wade <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Applications and such
>
> I'm about to send out another round of applications...I was considering
> sending a stamped, addressed postcard along so any HR can drop it in the
> mail and let me know what my status is. I had one musuem that had a
> pre-printed card and two check boxes - considered for hiring or not. I
> didn't care how informal, I could stop wondering and worrying.
>
> I actually once had a former professor of mine interview me for a
> position. I called three weeks later to find the status, and after
> speaking with them personally, waited another three weeks to find out they
> had filled the poisition and "forgot" to let me know.. Above all else I
> was hurt at their lack of communication - after all, this was one of the
> professors that taught me about Musuem/Archives management and dealing
> with the public!
>
>
> But this is not limited to the museum world...in the past year I've sent
> many a resume out and heard nothing. At least most offices with the State
> of Florida send an automated letter out. Sometimes I'll get them months
> after, but at least I know someone is listening!
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:08:51 -0500
> From: Jay Heuman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring
>
> Dear John & All:
>
> I appreciate the candor of John's message. Almost everything John wrote
> is bang on, based on my experience as a frustrated applicant. ~frown~
> The only suggestion that is heart-felt, I'm sure, but not helpful in
> reality is:
>
> > If you lack appropriate experience, be creative and get some;
> > you'll probably have to volunteer.
>
> As someone with 10+ years as a volunteer in various areas of museum
> (curatorial, collections, education, etc.) and now a 'professional'
> (read: paid) a volunteer coordinator )amongst many a hat I wear at
> work), I can toss in my two cents.
>
> Volunteering will give you a clue if this is really the line of work for
> you. BUT, it is most likely that volunteering only counts if other
> applicants for the same position have NO relevant paid museum employment
> on their resumes/CVs. Relevant paid museum employment always wins.
> Volunteering can move you to a better museum or to better duties . . .
> still as a volunteer. (Rarely does volunteering translate into a job.)
> And, of course, some people enjoy being 'professional volunteers' --
> supporting themselves financially by other means.
>
> Today, as people with MAs and PhDs are hired to perform jobs advertised
> for a minimum requirement of a BA, with a glut of qualified people, and
> not enough jobs around, those with enthusiasm, a degree (or two), and
> some volunteer experience stand little chance . . .
>
> Frustrated? You bet.
>
> Giving up? NO WAY!
>
> That's my two cents . . .
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jay Heuman
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:22:01 -0700
> From: Adrienne DeAngelis <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Applications and such
>
> I'd suggest sending out applications/resumes via registered,
> return-receipt request mail. That way at least you'd have a record that
> they actually received your application.
> By the bye, I wonder how important it is that many states have a
> "Sunshine Law" whereby all applications are to be made public? Wouldn't
> this law make non-responses if not against the law, at least publically
> shameful?
>
> Adrienne DeAngelis
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>
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Timothy Wade wrote:
>
> > I'm about to send out another round of applications...I was considering
> > sending a stamped, addressed postcard along so any HR can drop it in the
> > mail and let me know what my status is. I had one musuem that had a
> > pre-printed card and two check boxes - considered for hiring or not. I
> > didn't care how informal, I could stop wondering and worrying.
> >
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:56:44 -0700
> From: Kimberly Kenney <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Hourly pay rate for research position
>
> A small local museum contacted me inquiring about an
> appropriate hourly wage for a part time "Historical
> Research and Development Consultant." The candidate
> has a master's degree and will be doing exhibit and
> research work for about 5-7 hours per week. I told
> them I had a wonderful network of museum professionals
> that I could tap for a "going rate" for him.
>
> Any suggestions??????
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:55:49 -0500
> From: mary jo <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: email mailing list software
>
> Hi, we are looking to upgrade our e-mail list software. I'd be interested
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:53:27 -0500
> From: "English, Susan" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RENTAL RATES AND MUSEUM ADMISSION
>
> I am in the process of trying to put together a rental policy for our
> museum. I was wondering how other museums handle museum admissions and
> rentals. Do you give a discounted per person rate to groups renting a
room
> in the museum? Also, how do you handle groups which want you to provide
> tours during non-museum hours? Do you charge a flat rental rate or a per
> person charge?
>
> We will be offering room rentals during museum operating hours and after
> hours. Our museum is adjacent to a catering facility so there will be
> groups who may want to visit the museum during off hours but are not
> renting space in the museum.
>
> Any suggestions would be great.
>
> Susan English
> Joliet Area Historical Museum
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:42:37 -0500
> From: Janice Klein <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
>
> As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and inquiries about
> job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we have no
openings
> at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend to go to the
> bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to have done
> much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory or our
> website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist in a museum
> with only two permanent staff members (no, we do not have a development
> "staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of 11,000, or
do
> not have any experience with the subject matter of the collection.
>
> I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an informational
> meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time, but I would
> very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see the Museum")
> and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that they might
be
> willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.
>
> Membership in professional organizations helps and (sorry to reinforce the
> "it's who you know", but since I have been around for a while I may
actually
> know one of your instructors or someone you worked with) a personal
> reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact you" also
gets
> my attention.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> janice
>
> Janice Klein
> Chair, SMAC-AAM
> Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:59:37 -0400
> From: Jason Aikens <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Museum Quality Mannequins
>
> Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know of
> Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
>
> Thank You
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:06:09 -0400
> From: Tammy Espaillat <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins.....
>
> ATTA Inc, in New York City.
> They make amazing life like museum figures. The address is
> 450 West 31st Street, New York, NY 10001
> 212-295-7763
> You can speak to Karen Atta. She's very easy to work with.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> --
> Tammy Espaillat
> Just Plastics
> 250 Dyckman Street
> New York, NY 10034
> Tel - 212-569-8500
> Fax - 212-569-6970
> Site- www.justplastics.com
>
>
>
>
> on 9/11/02 1:59 PM, Jason Aikens at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know of
> > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> >
> > Thank You
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:50:07 -0500
> From: Catherine Ricciardelli <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: RENTAL RATES AND MUSEUM ADMISSION
>
> Please look at our website www.terramuseum.org under "about the Museum"
> to see an example of our rates and use policy. Our Marketing depatment
> can provide you with more information.
>
>
> Cathy Ricciardelli
> Director, Exhibitions & Collections Services
> Terra Museum of American Art
> 664 N. Michigan Avenue
> Chicago, IL 61606
> tel: 312-654-2244
> fax: 312-944-0639
> email: [log in to unmask]
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> >>> [log in to unmask] 09/11/02 12:53PM >>>
> I am in the process of trying to put together a rental policy for our
> museum. I was wondering how other museums handle museum admissions
> and
> rentals. Do you give a discounted per person rate to groups renting a
> room
> in the museum? Also, how do you handle groups which want you to
> provide
> tours during non-museum hours? Do you charge a flat rental rate or a
> per
> person charge?
>
> We will be offering room rentals during museum operating hours and
> after
> hours. Our museum is adjacent to a catering facility so there will be
> groups who may want to visit the museum during off hours but are not
> renting space in the museum.
>
> Any suggestions would be great.
>
> Susan English
> Joliet Area Historical Museum
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:08:07 -0400
> From: Wesley Creel <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: museum quality mannequins
>
> Good Afternoon,
> If you are looking for figures, rather than mannequins (usually mannequins
> wear historic costumes/artifacts); I would suggest that you contact Studio
> EIS in New York, NY.
> Their website is www.studioeis.com
> I have used them in the past and they do very good work, especially life
> casts.
> Wesley S. Creel
> Administrator of Programs and Interim Director of Museums
> Pink Palace Family of Museums
> Memphis, Tennessee
> www.memphismuseums.org
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:16:50 -0700
> From: John Chadwick <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: email mailing list software
>
> I tested Macjordomo about five or six years ago, and it worked well
> at the time. I do not know about OS 10 support or inserting pictures,
> but it is freeware. With OS X being based on a Unix kernel, it may be
> only a matter of time before one of the larger vendors such as LSoft
> or ListProc starts distributing Macintosh versions.
>
> Listserv does have a free version for non-profits, and if you have a
> Win 2K box it should work and is fairly easy to configure. This can
> be found at:
>
> http://www.lsoft.com/download/default.asp?item=listservliteeval
>
> John
>
> >Hi, we are looking to upgrade our e-mail list software. I'd be
interested
> >in hearing about what programs you use and what you like/dislike about
them.
> >
> >In particular, I'm looking for something that will run on a mac that will
> >also let you insert pictures into the body of the email?
> >
> >Any information would be appreciated!
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Mary Jo
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:01:08 -0400
> From: National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
>
> Please forgive my candor, however, I wonder how in this age of
spreadsheets,
> mail merges, and document templates, one cannot send responses to their
> applicants, many of whom spent as much or more time on their individual
> application as you will sending a response to all applicants.
>
> I will admit my naivety - I have not yet been in the position to hire
> someone and therefore cannot speak with any certainty about the
complexities
> of the subject. However, I know how relatively little amount of time it
> takes to set up a simple "We have received your application" document
> template, create a spread sheet with applicants names and addresses, press
> the "Mail Merge" button on my word processor and feed a ream of paper and
> envelopes into the laser printer. Why then do we fuss about the amount of
> time needed to give applicants a clue about their status? As discussed on
> Museum-L a few months ago (reference my post on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 and
> others with the subject "A reflection on employers and job seekers")
letting
> your applicants hang in the balance sours them on your institution and you
> as a professional. Remember, applicants are your future visitors,
> contributors, volunteers, employees, employers, grant funders, and most
> importantly colleagues.
>
> To borrow the current pop culture phrase: Cost of sending thank you
letters,
> a few hours. An applicants' relief over knowing their status, priceless.
>
> George Garner
> National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame
> P.O. Box 3120
> Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
> (518) 587-26090 // [log in to unmask]
>
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> |Behalf Of Janice Klein
> |Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:43 AM
> |To: [log in to unmask]
> |Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> |
> |
> |As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and
> |inquiries about
> |job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we
> |have no openings
> |at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend
> |to go to the
> |bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to
> |have done
> |much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory or our
> |website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist
> |in a museum
> |with only two permanent staff members (no, we do not have a development
> |"staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of
> |11,000, or do
> |not have any experience with the subject matter of the collection.
> |
> |I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an
> |informational
> |meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time,
> |but I would
> |very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see
> |the Museum")
> |and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that
> |they might be
> |willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.
> |
> |Membership in professional organizations helps and (sorry to
> |reinforce the
> |"it's who you know", but since I have been around for a while
> |I may actually
> |know one of your instructors or someone you worked with) a personal
> |reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact
> |you" also gets
> |my attention.
> |
> |Hope this helps,
> |
> |janice
> |
> |Janice Klein
> |Chair, SMAC-AAM
> |Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
> [log in to unmask]
> |www.mitchellmuseum.org
> |
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:07:44 -0400
> From: "Ellerbee, Genevieve" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins
>
> Manex is a French company that sells very good museum quality mannequins
> that are well-suited to display historic costume. We just used a bunch
for
> an exhibit on the evolution of children's clothing.
>
> http://www.manex-usa.com/
>
> Genevieve Ellerbee
> Associate Registrar
> DAR Museum
> Washington, D.C.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Aikens [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:00 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Museum Quality Mannequins
> >
> > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know of
> > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> >
> > Thank You
> >
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:35:21 -0400
> From: "Laura C. Lieberman" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Hourly pay rate for research position
>
> As a consultant, I receive $75/hr for short-term projects (1-6 weeks); for
> an ongoing very part-time project lasting 6-9 months, I would suggest $30.
> However, most museums cannot afford that. Depending on the situation
$20-25
> might suffice. My fees are considered mid-range, and many other
consultants
> in Atlanta charge $125 for similar services.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kimberly Kenney" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:56 PM
> Subject: Hourly pay rate for research position
>
>
> > A small local museum contacted me inquiring about an
> > appropriate hourly wage for a part time "Historical
> > Research and Development Consultant." The candidate
> > has a master's degree and will be doing exhibit and
> > research work for about 5-7 hours per week. I told
> > them I had a wonderful network of museum professionals
> > that I could tap for a "going rate" for him.
> >
> > Any suggestions??????
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > **********************************
> > Kimberly A. Kenney
> > Curator
> > McKinley Museum
> > 800 McKinley Monument Dr. NW
> > Canton OH 44708
> > 330-455-7043
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:24:16 -0400
> From: George Garner <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
>
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> Please forgive my candor, however, I wonder how in this age of
spreadsheets,
> mail merges, and document templates, one cannot send responses to their
> applicants, many of whom spent as much or more time on their individual
> application as you will sending a response to all applicants.
>
> I will admit my naivety - I have not yet been in the position to hire
> someone and therefore cannot speak with any certainty about the
complexities
> of the subject. However, I know how relatively little amount of time it
> takes to set up a simple "We have received your application" document
> template, create a spread sheet with applicants names and addresses, press
> the "Mail Merge" button on my word processor and feed a ream of paper and
> envelopes into the laser printer. Why then do we fuss about the amount of
> time needed to give applicants a clue about their status? As discussed on
> Museum-L a few months ago (reference my post on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 and
> others with the subject "A reflection on employers and job seekers")
letting
> your applicants hang in the balance sours them on your institution and you
> as a professional. Remember, applicants are your future visitors,
> contributors, volunteers, employees, employers, grant funders, and most
> importantly colleagues.
>
> To borrow the current pop culture phrase: Cost of sending thank you
letters,
> a few hours. An applicants' relief over knowing their status, priceless.
>
> George Garner
> National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame
> P.O. Box 3120
> Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
> (518) 587-26090 // [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> |Behalf Of Janice Klein
> |Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:43 AM
> |To: [log in to unmask]
> |Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> |
> |
> |As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and
> |inquiries about
> |job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we
> |have no openings
> |at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend
> |to go to the
> |bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to
> |have done
> |much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory or our
> |website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist
> |in a museum
> |with only two permanent staff members (no, we do not have a development
> |"staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of
> |11,000, or do
> |not have any experience with the subject matter of the collection.
> |
> |I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an
> |informational
> |meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time,
> |but I would
> |very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see
> |the Museum")
> |and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that
> |they might be
> |willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.
> |
> |Membership in professional organizations helps and (sorry to
> |reinforce the
> |"it's who you know", but since I have been around for a while
> |I may actually
> |know one of your instructors or someone you worked with) a personal
> |reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact
> |you" also gets
> |my attention.
> |
> |Hope this helps,
> |
> |Janice
> |
> |Janice Klein
> |Chair, SMAC-AAM
> |Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
> [log in to unmask]
> |www.mitchellmuseum.org
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:32:18 -0700
> From: Cecelia Ottenweller <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins
>
> Hey Jason,
>
> I talked to some of the project managers here - Life Formations out
> of Wisconsin is who we use.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Cecelia Ottenweller
> Southwest Museum Services
> Houston, TX
> 713-462-7754
>
> --- Jason Aikens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I
> > know of
> > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> >
> > Thank You
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:46:24 -0600
> From: John Martinson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Applications and such
>
> It has been said that employers have 200-400 applicants for each job and
do
> not have the
> time and resources to deal with responding back to each and every
applicant.
> However,
> there are the hearts and souls of the applicants, who spend hours/days
> putting together 11 to 12 pages of answers for the required 11 to 12
> questions that are often said to be "detailed". Then you receive a 100%
> (plus you are a veteran so you get an additional 5%), but then you never
> even get a call back or an interview. There is the cost of time, the cost
> of paper, postage (priority, UPS, etc.) the cost of envelopes,
> printer/toner, etc. There is the time applicants takes
> off work to fly to interviews and often many positions have you pay 1/2
way,
> or your hotel room, or reimburses you (months later).
>
> It think it is a case of "professionalism" on the part of employers. How
> do they want to
> "brand" themselves as professionals? It is also called "consideration"
and
> ethics to me to send a reply back when I am in that position.
>
> Call it as you like it, but to many it is simply bad taste and rude.
True,
> it is not just with museums, but state jobs or any job you apply for
today.
> Employers have their "pick of the crop" and they can be very selective to
> get the right person for the position. However, in the process, they
need
> to hold some professionalism standards by responding back to each and
every
> applicant.
>
> If they cannot do this, they should not be advertising the job. It should
> be part of the budget and expense......and simply their job. If five or
> ten people are interviewed -- how expensive are 5 or 10 letters and
stamps?
> Many employers don't even respond back to those they interview, let alone
to
> each and every applicant who applied.
>
> Personally, for me -- when I do not get an answer back it puts a big
> "negative" in my mind about the museum or employer. Call it human
nature.
> Yes --- it means, it was probably the best that I did not get the position
> with them, if that is the way they handle their public relations.
However,
> I am also a possible "visitor" to their museum or business in the future.
> Do you think I would go there or pay an admission charge to see their
> museum? Not on your life.
>
> And I am only one ~~~ what are the 400 applicants going to say "positive"
> about that museum or employer?
>
> "Hey Frank, do you know of any museums I can visits why passing through
ZXY
> town? I
> heard that ZXY museum was were wanting to work in the area."
>
> Frank just so happened applied at ZXY museum and never heard a word back
> from them, after he spent $200 on a flight for an interview, and hours
> filling out their questions, cost of sending a letter overnight---with
time
> had $300 to $400 in costs, plus having to miss work for the interview.
> What would Frank's response be?
>
> "Bob, I don't know about that museum...the staff is not to friendly there,
> and I heard it
> was not that great of a museum.....not very professional in their
standards
> which reflects
> badly on their exhibits and staff's attitude. My opinion of course, take
it
> or leave it...but the
> ABC museum, in the town of ABC, I heard has an excellent exhibit on
"Humming
> Bird Feeding"
> that you are interested in and you don't want to miss that! Bob, too,
their
> staff and docents are great! In fact, I recently sent a job application
to
> them. And do you believe this......they responded back that they received
> it. Then a few weeks later, I got a call from a Board member and they are
> very interested in me....and I have an interview next week! They are
paying
> my way down on the weekend, so I will not miss any work"
>
> Maybe that is over-doing it..but is a form of bad and good PR museums can
> receive. And negative words do spread.
>
> IMHO, I would not like that sort of negativity to get out about the museum
I
> was directing or worked. In fact, I would have the consideration to reply
> back to each and every applicant that applied. I'm sure ABC Museum would
be
> sending out letters to those who applied for the position Frank
interviewed
> for.
>
> As I mentioned before, the applicants who apply for positions with YOUR
> museum, could be possible donors or maybe even your boss later on in life.
> It is just a "win win" situation to always put your best foot forward.
> Treat each applicant with respect..and it will return two-fold back to
you.
>
> Too, when the market changes, museums and employers will be searching for
> good, professional people, but do you think Frank is going to want to work
> for you or apply for the position if it is offered again? Frank is
likely
> going to be working instead at ABC museum and your direct competition.
>
> Best,
>
> John
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:54:33 -0400
> From: Elizabeth Walton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins
>
> Here is a list of suppliers given at a workshop I attended with the
Costume
> Society of America (the editorial comments are from the list, compiled by
> costume professionals, not just me). There is also a recent book on
costume
> storage and dressing in the bookstore section of the CSA website:
> www.costumesocietyamerica.com
>
> If you have some specific questions you can e-mail me and I can help
> answer. I have dressed many many objects of varying sizes and shapes and
> used most of these mannequins
> -Elizabeth Walton
> www.clothelinejournal.com
>
> Suppliers:
>
> Goldsmith Inc.
> Long Island City, NY
> (718)937-8476
> fax:718-937-4525
> (adjustable female figure only, developed for Brooklyn museum)
>
> pucci mannequins
> NY
> 212-219-0142
> fax212-925-8542
> (stylized male and female figures)
>
>
> melvin s roos & co.
> atlanta
> 800-241-6897
> (commercial display, good inexpensive source)
>
> Wacoal Corporation
> makers of the "Kyoto" mannequins
> (white fiberglass figures shaped for historical silouettes 18th cent.
> empire and victorian)
> (these can be wonderful, but are pricey)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From the textile conservation list serve
>
> "this is one of the
> most difficult issues that comes up with small historical museums, and
> even big ones. I don't know a simple answer, or even a brief one.
> Sorry this reply is so long, but it's a big question.
>
> First of all, it's important to understand that historic dress presents
> one of the most complex display challenges there is. You are dealing
> with a large-ish, three-dimensional textile object that is difficult to
> handle. A display mount needs to correctly and completely support the
> costume, but beyond that it needs to correctly interpret the period
> shape of the costume as well as the individual size and shape of the
> wearer. In addition to knowledge of textiles and their properties, it's
> necessary to understand human anatomy and have a good knowledge of
> fashion history, period aesthetics, and period undergarments. If you
> don't have these, even the best mannequin won't make your presentation
> successful.
>
> "Museum quality" means two things to me. First, it's a question of
> suitable materials. Foam rubber dressmakers forms are clearly not
> museum quality, but many other materials used for mannequins are ok,
> including fiberglass and ethafoam. Surface coatings must also be
> considered. The other issue is that of shape - the mannequin should be
> adjustable to adapt to different heights (although this is not true for
> most mannequins with fixed legs), and must not have a shape that
> conflicts with the fashionable silhouette of the costume (both men's and
> women's). I've never found one mannequin that can adapt to all period
> shapes so it's necessary to have a variety. Some of the best mannequins
> have other adjustable parameters, such as waist length and torso and hip
> angles.
>
> There is no single answer to the mannequin question, but there are a
> number of different options that can be classed "museum quality".
>
> 20th century "department store" mannequins are unsuitable for pre-20th
> century historic dress not because of materials issues but because of
> their inability to assume period shapes. They will work for a lot of
> 20th century dress, if you can find mannequins that have fairly neutral
> poses. They also are very tall, and not cheap. It's possible to buy
> reconditioned mannequins of this type for much less than new, and
> sometimes department stores will donate old mannequins they no longer
> want.
>
> Fiberglass mannequins intended for some periods of historic dress are
> made by at least two firms, one in New York and one in Japan. These are
> quite expensive, from $875.00 to almost $2000.00 each, but they are very
> easy to work with and last for decades. (There was another firm that
> made less expensive museum mannequins but I can't find them - does
> anyone know what happened to Jerry Roe?)
>
> There are several published methods of making your own mannequin, all of
> which can be made in various period shapes. While they can be a lot
> less expensive, they present challenges in finding suitable armatures
> and bases, and do not usually have attractive heads and hands. They all
> take a fair amount of time, and it takes some effort to make them well.
> They also may not stand up to repeated use.
>
> Some costumes can be effectively displayed on supports that are not full
> mannequins, and these can take less time to make.
>
> Another option, if you don't need heads and hands, is the dress forms
> made by Stockman. They have four period shapes for women, and I have
> ordered some in plain papier-mache for $300.00 apiece; bases and neck
> caps are extra. We will spray them with a sealant before we cover them
> with fabric ourselves. I haven't used them yet but Meredith Montague at
> the Museum of Fine Arts has.
>
> Another challenge altogether comes up if you want to represent some
> ethnic group other than Caucasian. I haven't been able to find any
> ready-made mannequins of any type that come with different ethnic
> features. When we needed some American Indian mannequins, one of the
> mountmakers sculpted each entire mannequin out of ethafoam.
>
> And all mannequins with heads raise the issue of hair and how to make
> it, which can be a real problem.
>
> In summary, I don't have a simple answer. Does anybody else? - I'd be
> very interested in some exchange on this topic. I'd also be very
> interested to hear what's been said on Museum_L.
>
> Deborah Bede
> Textile Conservator
> Minnesota Historical Society "
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 01:59 PM 9/11/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know of
> >Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> >
> >Thank You
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:58:45 -0500
> From: Kyle McQuilkin <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: museum quality mannequins
>
> Depending on what you mean by "mannequin", we are working on a
> process for "do it yourself" archival mannequins. If you are looking
> for life-like, photoreal figures, then I cannot help. However, if
> you are interested in producing acid-free, archival forms for
> historic costumes, then email me off-list and I will share that which
> we have discovered so far.
>
> With minimal cost, you can create a body-mold from an appropriately
> sized volunteer, and (generally) using waste blue board, you can cast
> realistic body parts or complete figures.
>
> It takes a little time and creativity, and we have not yet ironed out
> all the kinks, but so far our results are pretty cool. Eventually,
> we hope to publish on the process, but I'll share what we have so far.
>
> Regards,
> Kyle
>
> --
> Kyle McQuilkin
> Paleontology Division
> Museum of Texas Tech
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:54:01 -0400
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:17:44 -0400
> From: Astrida Schaeffer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: museum quality mannequins
>
> Carved ethafoam bodies made to the measure of the specific garment in
> question (taking the correct period silhouette into account)has been a
very
> successful method for me, and one that I've used for a variety of
> institutions. I learned the technique at the Textile Conservation Center
in
> Lowell, MA; it's an approved, inert display method that allows for
> flexibility (forms can easily be reworked as needed) and solid display.
The
> down side is there are no heads or hands, but there are plenty of views on
> the desirability of that!
> Basically you measure the torso area of the garment in 2 or 4 inch
> increments (depending on the thickness of your ethafoam planks), cut out
> rough ovals, hot glue the stack together, and start carving. The final
foam
> body needs to be a shade too small to allow room for a thin layer of
padding
> and the fabric covering; you don't want direct contact between the foam
and
> the garment.
>
> As others have said, I'd be happy to go into more detail off-list.
>
> Astrida
>
> ******************
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> The Art Gallery
> University of New Hampshire
> Paul Creative Arts Center
> 30 College Road
> Durham, NH 03824
> (603) 862-3712
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:18:18 -0400
> From: Wesley Creel <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
>
> Good Afternoon George,
> In hundreds of government museums (city,state,federal) the interviewing
> supervisor does not even see the initial wave of applications. In my
> experience, if 70 or 80 applications are mailed in for a single
> application, HR (in my case at City Hall) will only let me see the
> applications that make the minimum qualifications (MQ)cut. This 1st MQ
cut
> may consist of about 10 or 12 applications receiving interview
> consideration, sometimes out of the original 70 or 80 applications. I
> don't even know the names of the individuals who don't make the cut, and
> won't be able to see those applications. Anyway, all
> correspondence /contact (telephone, e-mail, etc.) to the applicants is
> handled by HR. By policy, I cannot contact the applicants except to
set-up
> the telephone and face-to-face interviews, or to give the applicants
> a "take-home situational essay exam" (yes, we do those for senior
> positions).....after HR gives me formal "go-ahead." As you can well
> imagine, this will take months....and, sometimes HR will not contact the
> applicants that were cut until after the candidate is chosen and accepts
> the position so they will have a pool to contact if necessary. This is
> sometimes done when the interviewing supervisor needs to interview more
> applicants for a variety of reasons.....sometimes this happens when
several
> candidates don't show-up for an interview (it happens more and more). I
> have been responsible for filling well over 100 museum positions (from
> museum directors and curators to grounds keepers and janitors) and have
> seen over 1200 applications over the last 3 decades......I don't know how
> many application that I haven't seen because HR never forwarded them for
> reasons state above.
> I hope this sheds some light on why some things (in government affiliated
> museums) are the way they are,
> Wesley S. Creel
> Administrator of Programs and Interim Director of Museums
> Pink Palace Family of Museums
> Memphis, Tennessee
> www.memphismuseums.org
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:32:37 -0500
> From: Albert Sperath <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: museum quality mannequins
>
> Check out the book, Museum Mannequins, Brunn and White, ISBN
> 0-9730549-0-5, =A9 2002
> published by Alberta Regional Group of Conservators (ARG!)
> --
> Albert Sperath, Director
> University Museums
> The University of Mississippi
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:40:02 -0700
> From: Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring
>
> Thank you, Jon, for your well thought-out words. They
> will be passed along to the MuseJob members. It is
> there we work on some of the critical skills that go
> with job hunting. Getting a job is more than knowing
> where the job leads are, and starting out in the
> career field. There is just so much more to learn
> that schools don't teach.
>
> As a regular part of the Musejobs list, we get the
> HotJobs.com pointers and articles about the employment
> market and jobs in general. I've gotten tremendous
> feedback from members that they've learned a lot on
> that list. This makes me proud because it makes me
> feel I'm doing what I can to help sustain institutions
> I dearly love.
>
> I think I need to say something on both sides of the
> fence. I do include snippets that tell what the job
> market in general is like. On the MuseFunding list, I
> give them articles that have to do with grants that
> may help, but also the state of funding in general.
> CalArts just produced its budget info, and the picture
> is that funding is down, down, down. That means less
> and less jobs.
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:47:18 -0400
> From: Candace Perry <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Applications and such
>
> I must agree with one specific point here: I once had an interview out of
> state -- I flew in and out the same day. Getting to the interview from
the
> airport was no problem, however, the museum was located in an area where
you
> couldn't hail a cab. The interview (and the interviewer) were terrible.
The
> interviewer NEVER asked if I needed any assistance getting back to the
> airport; I left the facility and the door was locked behind me.
Fortunately
> I was able to walk to an area where I could hail a cab, but I was very
> unfamiliar with the city and quite nervous about the whole
> thing...thankfully my plane was late so I didn't miss it.
> ANYWAY, I now live in the area where the museum is located, and I can't
get
> past that lack of consideration shown to me. I never tell people to visit
> the museum. (guess that means I didn't get the job...I wouldn't have taken
> it anyway!)
> A vendor I worked with not long ago said the museum's curator (the same
that
> interviewed me) was "insane." Not a good image to putting forward to
> anyone, even a lowly applicant!
> Candace Perry
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:47:04 -0700
> From: Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Wow!
>
> I sent the response to the Museums list about Jon's
> good words.
>
> Yahoo must be sick because it left off half of my
> note.
>
> I'm not going to try to recreate it now, just going to
> observe that the web is a little goofy today.
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:07:18 -0600
> From: Nancy Geyer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Hourly pay rate for research position
>
> We have graduate students who do exhibit research and work in collections
> and we pay $11 per hour. I'd be interested in what other museums pay.
>
> Thanks,
> Nancy
>
> Nancy Geyer, Program Director
> Boulder History Museum
> 1206 Euclid Ave.
> Boulder, CO 80302
> 303-449-3464
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf
> Of Kimberly Kenney
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Hourly pay rate for research position
>
> A small local museum contacted me inquiring about an
> appropriate hourly wage for a part time "Historical
> Research and Development Consultant." The candidate
> has a master's degree and will be doing exhibit and
> research work for about 5-7 hours per week. I told
> them I had a wonderful network of museum professionals
> that I could tap for a "going rate" for him.
>
> Any suggestions??????
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> =====
> **********************************
> Kimberly A. Kenney
> Curator
> McKinley Museum
> 800 McKinley Monument Dr. NW
> Canton OH 44708
> 330-455-7043
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:59:03 -0400
> From: Ivan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: museum mannequins
>
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> Please contact us to discuss museum quality mannequins. We have been =
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> worked for museums all over the world.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Ivan Schwartz
> Director
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> 35 York Street
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> T 718-797-4561 F 718-797-4562
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:28:43 -0400
> From: Rickie Good <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
Hire
>
> George Garner asked
>
> >I wonder how in this age of spreadsheets, mail merges, and document
> templates, one cannot send responses to their applicants
>
>
> I had to respond to this. While I agree that employers should send
> responses to applicants, I hope no one believes that all museums have
access
> to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe me,
not
> everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had one
old
> pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was a
> 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
thanks
> to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who knows
> how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how to
> print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
>
> And I'm not telling where I work :)
>
> Rickie Good
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:41:42 -0700
> From: "Reynolds, Jennifer" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession W
ho Hire
>
> I can guess where you work, Rickie! Where we all used to work, or still
> work, or where we wish we could find a job! I bet lots of visitors would
> figure museum office equipment as part of their collections ...
> Jennifer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rickie Good [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
> Hire
>
> ... I hope no one believes that all museums have access
> to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe me,
not
> everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had one
old
> pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was a
> 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
thanks
> to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who knows
> how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how to
> print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
>
> And I'm not telling where I work :)
>
> Rickie Good
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:10:30 -0500
> From: Chris Godbold <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Visitor traffic, rugs, and wood floors
>
> Dear fellow listers,
>
> I work at an 1891 historic house (As I have said previously) and the large
> rugs in the house all extend into the visitor walkways. Someone in the
past
> (before I came to work there) put down plastic covers that have little
> cleats on the bottom to protect the rugs from wear and tear. These cleats
> are damaging our wood floors and probably our rugs, too. So I have been
> asked to research alternate means to cover the rugs and protect them from
> the wear and tear of visitor traffic.I understand that it is best to keep
> rugs where they cannot be walked on, but that may not be an option.
> I have looked at the list archives and several conservation websites, but
> didn't find much. So I am asking for your help, observations, experiences,
> etc. Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris Godbold
> Assistant Curator
> Heritage Farmstead Museum
> Plano, TX 75075
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:32:35 -0400
> From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
Who Hire
>
> Don't feel bad Ricky.I'm an unpaid intern at the museum i work at and I
> train the regular staff, go figure
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rickie Good" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:28 PM
> Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
> Hire
>
>
> > George Garner asked
> >
> > >I wonder how in this age of spreadsheets, mail merges, and document
> > templates, one cannot send responses to their applicants
> >
> >
> > I had to respond to this. While I agree that employers should send
> > responses to applicants, I hope no one believes that all museums have
> access
> > to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe me,
> not
> > everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had one
> old
> > pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was a
> > 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
> thanks
> > to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who
knows
> > how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how
to
> > print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
> >
> > And I'm not telling where I work :)
> >
> > Rickie Good
> >
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:34:41 -0400
> From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession W
ho Hire
>
> Well in the colonial house i work In , I tell the visitors this is the
> colonial office/kitchen from the 21st century
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reynolds, Jennifer" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession W
> ho Hire
>
>
> > I can guess where you work, Rickie! Where we all used to work, or still
> > work, or where we wish we could find a job! I bet lots of visitors would
> > figure museum office equipment as part of their collections ...
> > Jennifer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rickie Good [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:29 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
> > Hire
> >
> > ... I hope no one believes that all museums have access
> > to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe me,
> not
> > everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had one
> old
> > pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was a
> > 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
> thanks
> > to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who
knows
> > how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how
to
> > print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
> >
> > And I'm not telling where I work :)
> >
> > Rickie Good
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:40:47 -0400
> From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Applications and such
>
> I have to agree with Indigo.I innocently started the "I need a job
> controversy"(ducks) I think. And I do believe professional couresy
requires
> a response. Fortunately for me through nagging persistance and contacts I
> got a job (someday) lol. When Nj ends the hiring freeze. Until then I
teach
> and intern. I have found out career counselors at least at my school in
> adequately prepare you thats why i utilize the professors in my field of
> study who have been more than willing to assist me. My rsume, etc has been
> created by the advisors in my programs for which im
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "John Martinson" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Applications and such
>
>
> > It has been said that employers have 200-400 applicants for each job and
> do
> > not have the
> > time and resources to deal with responding back to each and every
> applicant.
> > However,
> > there are the hearts and souls of the applicants, who spend hours/days
> > putting together 11 to 12 pages of answers for the required 11 to 12
> > questions that are often said to be "detailed". Then you receive a
100%
> > (plus you are a veteran so you get an additional 5%), but then you never
> > even get a call back or an interview. There is the cost of time, the
cost
> > of paper, postage (priority, UPS, etc.) the cost of envelopes,
> > printer/toner, etc. There is the time applicants takes
> > off work to fly to interviews and often many positions have you pay 1/2
> way,
> > or your hotel room, or reimburses you (months later).
> >
> > It think it is a case of "professionalism" on the part of employers.
How
> > do they want to
> > "brand" themselves as professionals? It is also called "consideration"
> and
> > ethics to me to send a reply back when I am in that position.
> >
> > Call it as you like it, but to many it is simply bad taste and rude.
> True,
> > it is not just with museums, but state jobs or any job you apply for
> today.
> > Employers have their "pick of the crop" and they can be very selective
to
> > get the right person for the position. However, in the process, they
> need
> > to hold some professionalism standards by responding back to each and
> every
> > applicant.
> >
> > If they cannot do this, they should not be advertising the job. It
should
> > be part of the budget and expense......and simply their job. If five
or
> > ten people are interviewed -- how expensive are 5 or 10 letters and
> stamps?
> > Many employers don't even respond back to those they interview, let
alone
> to
> > each and every applicant who applied.
> >
> > Personally, for me -- when I do not get an answer back it puts a big
> > "negative" in my mind about the museum or employer. Call it human
> nature.
> > Yes --- it means, it was probably the best that I did not get the
position
> > with them, if that is the way they handle their public relations.
> However,
> > I am also a possible "visitor" to their museum or business in the
future.
> > Do you think I would go there or pay an admission charge to see their
> > museum? Not on your life.
> >
> > And I am only one ~~~ what are the 400 applicants going to say
"positive"
> > about that museum or employer?
> >
> > "Hey Frank, do you know of any museums I can visits why passing through
> ZXY
> > town? I
> > heard that ZXY museum was were wanting to work in the area."
> >
> > Frank just so happened applied at ZXY museum and never heard a word back
> > from them, after he spent $200 on a flight for an interview, and hours
> > filling out their questions, cost of sending a letter overnight---with
> time
> > had $300 to $400 in costs, plus having to miss work for the interview.
> > What would Frank's response be?
> >
> > "Bob, I don't know about that museum...the staff is not to friendly
there,
> > and I heard it
> > was not that great of a museum.....not very professional in their
> standards
> > which reflects
> > badly on their exhibits and staff's attitude. My opinion of course,
take
> it
> > or leave it...but the
> > ABC museum, in the town of ABC, I heard has an excellent exhibit on
> "Humming
> > Bird Feeding"
> > that you are interested in and you don't want to miss that! Bob, too,
> their
> > staff and docents are great! In fact, I recently sent a job application
> to
> > them. And do you believe this......they responded back that they
received
> > it. Then a few weeks later, I got a call from a Board member and they
are
> > very interested in me....and I have an interview next week! They are
> paying
> > my way down on the weekend, so I will not miss any work"
> >
> > Maybe that is over-doing it..but is a form of bad and good PR museums
can
> > receive. And negative words do spread.
> >
> > IMHO, I would not like that sort of negativity to get out about the
museum
> I
> > was directing or worked. In fact, I would have the consideration to
reply
> > back to each and every applicant that applied. I'm sure ABC Museum
would
> be
> > sending out letters to those who applied for the position Frank
> interviewed
> > for.
> >
> > As I mentioned before, the applicants who apply for positions with YOUR
> > museum, could be possible donors or maybe even your boss later on in
life.
> > It is just a "win win" situation to always put your best foot forward.
> > Treat each applicant with respect..and it will return two-fold back to
> you.
> >
> > Too, when the market changes, museums and employers will be searching
for
> > good, professional people, but do you think Frank is going to want to
work
> > for you or apply for the position if it is offered again? Frank is
> likely
> > going to be working instead at ABC museum and your direct competition.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > John
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:59:57 EDT
> From: Merri Pemberton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Applications and such
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> I would like to add my 25 cents please.
>
> I admire the museum professional hopefuls who put in so much time and
effort
> into finding a job. I do feel very passionately about doing your best to
> treat these potential workers and workers in other fields the best way you
> can. Word of mouth is damaging. I saw first hand in a local election in my
> county how bad word of mouth can damage chances of success. A lady who was
> running for local office has a reputation of being very rude and
> disrespectful to her workers. She lost the election by a large margin;
this
> loss is well known in our county because of her attitude to others.
>
> Some of you have heard this story before:
>
> When I interviewed at the Museum of Early Southern Decorative Arts, Old
> Salem, Winston Salem, NC. The receptionist showed a very rude and cold
> attitude towards me. When my mother and aunt came in after I was taken to
the
> interviewer's office, the receptionist behaved the same way to them. I had
> the feeling that I wasn't going to get the job anyway. Usually I have a
lot
> of hope regardless, but this time I just knew that this wasn't it. That
was
> the first time that I really felt unwelcomed in a place where I
interviewed.
> This strong discomfort lasted for the whole time that I was there, it
didn't
> just start and end with the front desk receptionist.
>
> I am the sort of person who is very loyal to products, companies, and
> services that treat me well. For instance, I always go the same grocery
store
> (s) every week because of their great customer service, fresh produce and
> clean store. I always buy the same juice (OceanSpray Cranberry Juice) from
> the same store every week. When I tell people about where I go to buy
> groceries, I really lay it down thick of how wonderful the store is and
how
> wonderful the produce and meats look.
>
> I can be an asset to any business, even when I don't have much money
because
> the money that I do have and the favorable word of mouth will definately
go
> to that business that treats the customers well. I tell everyone where
they
> should go to get the best services and products...that includes museums.
>
> When I say to a museum hopeful, " that is a great museum to try for a
job!" I
> mean it. I love to talk about places that are good to me. I love to point
out
> museums that really shows respect for my efforts. I probably have been
there
> as a visitor or interviewee and was treated in a decent fashion. When I go
> through a bad experience with that potential employer, I tell that to
> everyone also. Everyone makes their own decisions, but I don't want to see
> others wasting their time without knowing that they may have more of that
> chance of wasting time with certain employers. I also don't want to see
> others spending their money on certain businesses that don't respect their
> clients.
>
> I guess one could say that the way that I act resembles that of a news
> broadcast reporter and a cheerleader, literally.
>
> If you treat your customers/visitors/interviewers well, you may have loyal
PR
> people and financial donators for a very long time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Merri
>
>
>
>
> n a message dated 9//202 12:52:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> >
>
>
> M erri C .Pemberton
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I would like to add my 25 cents please.
> <BR>
> <BR>I admire the museum professional hopefuls who put in so much time and
effort into finding a job. I do feel very passionately about doing your best
to treat these potential workers and workers in other fields the best way
you can. Word of mouth is damaging. I saw first hand in a local election in
my county how bad word of mouth can damage chances of success. A lady who
was running for local office has a reputation of being very rude and
disrespectful to her workers. She lost the election by a large margin; this
loss is well known in our county because of her attitude to others.
> <BR>
> <BR>Some of you have heard this story before:
> <BR>
> <BR>When I interviewed at the Museum of Early Southern Decorative Arts,
Old Salem, Winston Salem, NC. The receptionist showed a very rude and cold
attitude towards me. When my mother and aunt came in after I was taken to
the interviewer's office, the receptionist behaved the same way to them. I
had the feeling that I wasn't going to get the job anyway. Usually I have a
lot of hope regardless, but this time I just knew that this wasn't it. That
was the first time that I really felt unwelcomed in a place where I
interviewed. This strong discomfort lasted for the whole time that I was
there, it didn't just start and end with the front desk receptionist.
> <BR>
> <BR>I am the sort of person who is very loyal to products, companies, and
services that treat me well. For instance, I always go the same grocery
store (s) every week because of their great customer service, fresh produce
and clean store. I always buy the same juice (OceanSpray Cranberry Juice)
from the same store every week. When I tell people about where I go to buy
groceries, I really lay it down thick of how wonderful the store is and how
wonderful the produce and meats look.
> <BR>
> <BR>I can be an asset to any business, even when I don't have much money
because the money that I do have and the favorable word of mouth will
definately go to that business that treats the customers well. I tell
everyone where they should go to get the best services and products...that
includes museums.
> <BR>
> <BR>When I say to a museum hopeful, " that is a great museum to try for a
job!" I mean it. I love to talk about places that are good to me. I love to
point out museums that really shows respect for my efforts. I probably have
been there as a visitor or interviewee and was treated in a decent fashion.
When I go through a bad experience with that potential employer, I tell that
to everyone also. Everyone makes their own decisions, but I don't want to
see others wasting their time without knowing that they may have more of
that chance of wasting time with certain employers. I also don't want to see
others spending their money on certain businesses that don't respect their
clients.
> <BR>
> <BR>I guess one could say that the way that I act resembles that of a news
broadcast reporter and a cheerleader, literally.
> <BR>
> <BR>If you treat your customers/visitors/interviewers well, you may have
loyal PR people and financial donators for a very long time.
> <BR>
> <BR>Sincerely,
> <BR>
> <BR>Merri
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>n a message dated 9//202 12:52:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:06:27 EDT
> From: Merri Pemberton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
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> Man! We really need (meaning the public) to do better with giving museum
> donations and (meaning the museum studies programs) training to fix that
> problem.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Merri
>
> M erri C .Pemberton
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
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with giving museum donations and (meaning the museum studies programs)
training to fix that problem.
> <BR>
> <BR>Sincerely,
> <BR>
> <BR>Merri
> <BR>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:41:28 -0400
> From: Dale Jones <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: WINTER 2003 INTERNSHIP IN RESEARCH AND EVALUATION
>
> WINTER 2003 INTERNSHIP IN RESEARCH AND EVALUATION
>
> The Institute for Learning Innovation, a nonprofit research, evaluation,
> and materials development organization that works with museums and other
> community-based institutions world-wide, is offering a three-month, paid
> internship as a Research and Evaluation Assistant. The summer
> internship begins in February 2003 and ends in April 2003. Start and
> end dates can be tailored to accommodate the intern's schedule. The
> internship is three months long and includes a stipend of $1200 per
> month.
>
> The Research and Evaluation Assistant will work on a variety of projects
> including the evaluation of museum exhibitions and/or programs, as well
> as the evaluation of community-based and/or technology-based programs.
> Past interns have worked with projects such as a front-end evaluation of
> an exhibition at the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum, a summative
> evaluation of a gallery at the Maryland Historical Society, and a
> variety of other evaluations conducted at museums and with community
> organizations. Duties are specific to projects that are available at
> the time and will include some or all of the following tasks:
>
> * Coordinating aspects of evaluation planning and design. The candidate
> may work with a project manager to formulate the initial design and
> conceptualization of an evaluation project.
> * Collecting data in the field. Data collection may involve conducting
> interviews, observations, or tracking in a museum or other
> community-based organization.
> * Reducing and analyzing data. Candidates may code and then enter data
> into the appropriate software program.
> * Writing technical reports that interpret and summarize data.
>
> The ideal candidate will have a keen interest in better understanding
> how, what, where and why people learn in all aspects of their lives, but
> especially related to experiences in museums and other community-based
> organizations. Analytical thinking skills are required. The candidate
> must learn quickly and be able to work simultaneously on multiple,
> diverse tasks. In addition, the candidate will have excellent
> interpersonal skills, as well as written and oral communication skills.
> Students working toward, or having just completed, a graduate degree and
> professionals in the field are encouraged to apply. Unfortunately, we
> can accept only U. S. citizens for applicants at this time.
>
> Interested candidates should send a cv/resume, three letters of
> reference, and a cover letter to:
> Institute for Learning Innovation,
> 166 West St., Annapolis, MD 21401.
> Attention: Dale Jones.
>
> For further information, please contact Dale Jones at (410) 268-5149 or
> <[log in to unmask]>. Applications will be accepted through November 15,
> 2002.
>
> The Institute for Learning Innovation is a non-profit organization that
> works to describe, assess, and advance learning both in free-choice
> settings such as museums, libraries, community-based programs, and
> websites, as well as in the formal education system. The organization's
> focus resides in three areas: research and evaluation, professional
> development, and learning resources development. The collective
> experience of staff gives the organization expertise across a wide
> variety of disciplines including art, history, and science. For further
> information, visit the Institute's website located at <www.ilinet.org
>
> Dale Jones
> Institute for Learning Innovation
> 166 West Street
> Annapolis MD 21401
> 410-268-5149
> 410-268-2179 (Fax)
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