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Elizabeth Luchsinger <[log in to unmask]>
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<in fact he [hussein] came on public television and condemn this senseless
attack.>

.and we know how he always tells the truth..


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]


>     Nick at no time did Sadam Hussein support Ai _Quieda in fact he came
on
> public television and condemn this senseless attack.George Bush and his
> regime used this as one of many to infiltrate a sovreign nation with no
> basis whatsoever. The small extremeists group found in Iraq that did
support
> Al Quieda were in fact in Kurdish territory. A terroitory we protected.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicholas Burlakoff" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]
>
>
> > I fully agree that people are more significant than artifacts. Although
> > people have been known to give their life to preserve cultural
treasures.
> I
> > am also in full agreement that the 150 children released from prison are
> > probably glad to be out (if they survive and are not orphans-a difficult
> > fate in some countries). But, how about the hundreds of burned and
maimed
> > children who are suffering in hospitals that have no water or
electricity
> > and were allowed to be looted by folks who cam to "help" ? What did
these
> > kids do to deserve their fate-support Al Quida, produce weapons?
> > N. Burlakoff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf
> > Of Lisa Moellering
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:18 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]
> >
> > Agreed - I think Deb Fuller is the one voice of reason in this
discussion.
> > I too feel a loss as to these treasures - but there is something much
more
> > important than artifacts and books - people.  Our troops have done a
> > magnificent thing here - I would bet the 150 children released from that
> > prison value their freedom much more than an artifact - I think some
> > perspective is needed here.
> >
> > Lisa Moellering
> > Curator of Collections/Registrar
> > Holocaust Museum Houston
> > 5401 Caroline Street
> > Houston, Texas 77004
> > 713.942.8000 x110
> > 713.942.7953 (fax)
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf
> > Of michael russell
> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:49 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]
> >
> > Thanks.  About time we heard from the other side of the equation.
> >
> > Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I know this isn't a political forum but that last article from CNN
really
> > cheesed me off and I really feel I need to say something.
> >
> > In summary, the US troops were blamed for not stopping the looting of
the
> > museum in Baghdad.
> >
> > To quote one of the US commanders, "We're not a police force." (Not in
the
> > article.) The military isn't a police force. They aren't trained to be a
> > police
> > force. They're trained to stop the enemy which they have done. Looting
is
> > EVERYWHERE and there's just not enough tanks or troops to keep
everything
> > safe.
> >
> > These guys have been on the go for 3 weeks. They haven't had showers,
used
> a
> > real flush toilet or probably gotten more than 4 hours of sleep a night
in
> > those 3 weeks - not to mention spending many weeks before that on high
> alert
> > ready to move at a moment's notice. They've been shot at; they've seen
> their
> > friends shot. They're extremely on edge because they don't know if the
> Iraqi
> > in
> > civilian clothes coming towards them wants to thank them or blow them
up.
> > Right
> > now, the average solider probably cares more about getting a home cooked
> > meal,
> > a hot shower, wearing something that isn't all shades of sandy brown and
> > getting a full night's sleep in a real bed than stopping someone from
> > filtching
> > a really old clay tablet. I can't really say that I blame him.
> >
> > There are still pockets of resistance in Baghdad and the troops don't
know
> > what
> > traps were laid by Saddam's troops as they fled. And up until Sunday AM,
> > they
> > were still looking for 7 POWs. 4 are still MIA.
> >
> > Tanks and troops can't be everywhere nor is it their job. I could start
> > asking
> > where are the UN troops who's responsibility it is to do this, but I
just
> > won't
> > go there. If the decision comes down to protecting the US troops in
> Baghdad
> > or
> > protecting a museum that's one of hundreds of buildings being looted,
> where
> > do
> > you think the tanks will go? My guess is that human lives are a bit more
> > important than artifacts.
> >
> > The US troops freed the city and turned it over to the Iraqi people.
THEY
> > are
> > the ones doing the looting. It is THEIR fault for destroying their own
> > artifacts. The US gets criticized for trying to revive colonialism and
> > control
> > Iraq. So we live up to our original assertion of turning control of Iraq
> > back
> > to the Iraqi people. Now the troops are getting blamed for NOT
controlling
> > the
> > people. You can't have it both ways. Don't blame the troops for what the
> > Iraqi
> > people have done of their own free will. Once things die down, hopefully
> > cooler
> > heads will prevail and people will start returning the artifacts and
> > rebuilding
> > the museum. But again, it will be up to the Iraqi people to do so, NOT
the
> > US
> > or any other outside group.
> >
> > Sorry again for venting but that article was way out of line.
> >
> > Deb
> >
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