Isn't this a;so inappropriate, especially coming from a so called educator?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "James Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: Looting The Musuem of Stupidity
> Mr. Schulte:
>
> As a substitute teacher I've had 1st graders who have demostrated more
maturity than
> you did with this reply:
>
> James Schulte wrote:
>
> > Isn't this also inappropriate Mr. moderator?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: Looting The Musuem of Stupidity
> >
> > > David, thank you for your well stated, and well reasoned, attempt put
this
> > whole issue
> > > in its proper perspective. It is a much welcome breath of fresh air
after
> > having to read the garbage that started the whole marines in iraq
> > "discussion"! Your thread I'll enjoy following!
> > >
> > > David Harvey wrote:
> > >
> > > > I nominate the Musuem-L thread on "marines" and "appropriate topics"
to
> > the
> > > > Museum of Stupidity. It is especially noted that the particpants
hurled
> > > > personal invectives, political diatribes, and missed the entire
point of
> > the issue
> > > > that first started this all.
> > > >
> > > > Oh! The Musuem of Stupidity has just been looted!
> > > >
> > > > Looting of cultural heritage....remember that?
> > > >
> > > > It is appropraite to discuss the US military's responsibility to
protect
> > > > cultural heritage in any conflict - we are signatories of the UNESCO
> > convention,
> > > > after all.
> > > >
> > > > I think it is a bit over the top to blame the american and british
> > forces for
> > > > the looting, as if they had kicked open the doors and loaded the
goodies
> > on
> > > > to a truck themselves. The truth is that citizens of Iraq did that -
and
> > it
> > > > appears to have been a phenomenon linked to a long-standing practice
of
> > looting
> > > > cultural heritage for gain. (Most ot the Pyramids are empty after
all!)
> > > >
> > > > But the larger issue here, and one that has a long, long history
(that
> > > > invovled many prominent museums until recently) is that of the
thriving
> > trade in
> > > > antiquities and stolen art. Correct me if I am wrong, but many of
the
> > world's
> > > > musuems bought stolen works from the black market (no questions
asked),
> > or they
> > > > acquired them through their colonialst or imperialist pasts (The
Elgin
> > Marbles).
> > > >
> > > > Much of this has abated, at least formally, by the adoption of the
> > UNESCO
> > > > conventions in the 1980's.
> > > >
> > > > But there is still a thriving market for stolen cultural heritage.
And
> > this
> > > > is what really feeds the phenomenon. If there wasn't such a huge
demand
> > for
> > > > these treasures in Europe, Asia, and America, and elsewhere in the
> > world, then
> > > > there would not be the market to create the lucre necessary to feed
the
> > looting.
> > > >
> > > > So much could be done by stricter intervention on international
borders.
> > On
> > > > having groups that monitor auctions and online trading, of higher
> > priority
> > > > given to the protection of cultural resources and heritage by
national
> > and local
> > > > governements. On having more severe penalities for trafficking in
> > cultural
> > > > heritage - not just fines, but real hard time.
> > > >
> > > > As the current issue of Archaeolgy magazine points out, this is the
> > issue.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.archaeology.org/magazine.php?page=curiss/index
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > David Harvey
> > > > 2930 South Birch Street
> > > > Denver, CO 80222
> > > > 303-300-5257
> > > > [log in to unmask]
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