That's the spirit!!

O
Olivia S. Anastasiadis, Curator
Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace
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Yorba Linda, CA  92886
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:15:32 PST geneen wright <[log in to unmask]>
writes:
>Experience and longevity are what a lot of employers look for in
>potential employees.  Most of us trying to "break into" the museum
>world
>are all to knowledgable of that.  Actually I am informed that a salary
>can be negotiated but that only goes so far.  Going elsewhere is also,
>easier said than done.  My message was neither uplifting nor
>deafeatist,
>but real.  I will however continue to pursuit a museum career.
>Perhaps
>here I will use a different terminology- to say that I will get my
>ideal
>salary eventually but until then I will enjoy my job.  I figure, I am
>young and I do have time.
>
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>>From:         "Olivia S. Anastasiadis" <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject:      Re: one solution to low salaries
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>>On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:34:40 PST geneen wright <[log in to unmask]>
>>writes:
>>>I would Like to agree with you Mark but your response sounds more
>>>idealistic.  I am currently interviewing for museum positions.
>There
>>>are so many others out there wanting the same positions.  This being
>>>the case I really do not see any solutions to low salaries besides
>that
>>>which another individual pointed out, WORK YOUR WAY UP.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes, you do work your way up, but at the same time, you can demand a
>>higher wage, it's just that nobody told you about it.  I would like
>to
>>say that everyone's comments have been either uplifting or downright
>>defeatist; it's one of those polarizing discussions I guess.  But the
>>bottom line is, you've got to make sure that if the salary they've
>quoted
>>you won't feed you or the dog, it's time to tell them and negotiate.
>If
>>that won't make the employer budge any higher, then just give it up
>and
>>go on to another opening.  But if you do take the low pay, still ask
>the
>>employer, what will you do for me in the next year or two or even in
>the
>>next five years?  This is a question that would at least tell the
>>employer  you are committed to staying there, prove your worth, and
>be
>>recompensated.  Otherwise, there is no way you're gonna get your cake
>and
>>eat it too.  Degrees are fine, and they do help, but I always look to
>>experience and longevity in the system; that's what gets museum
>workers
>>hired.
>>
>>O
>>
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