I have had enough...
I only recently joined this list serve, but this topic has both run its course and my patience. Get real and get honest! Every religion, including Christianity has been filled with its fair share hate. How many lives have been taken to “spread” Christianity? How many Christians sat in pews on Sunday and behind white hoods on Saturday? How many Christian parents have thrown their gay and lesbian children on the streets?
This doesn't mean that every Christian, spews hate or acts in hateful way. But, you are seemingly unaware of your narrow minded and cruel generalizations. There are plenty of people who are “not interested in museums at all” – it never occurred to me that they were all Muslims. And, I seriously doubt you have any first hand knowledge about what is being taught in Muslim homes and schools. But, I am glad to know that Christians no longer “hate” me to because of the person I love and the family I have created. Wait…I think I being too general. All Christians don’t hate me just the ones that scream: “homosexuals burn in hell.”
I am happily removing my name from this list serve.
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Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [MUSEUM-L] Christmas vs. Happy Holidays - Email found in subject
"Raina Johns" <[log in to unmask]> schrieb:
Raina,
as you mix some things, let me try to explain the matter once again.
As cultural institutions, it is our job to be accessible to all people.
No doubt. But what has this to do with this discussion? The discussion is about wishes and greetings, maybe also about exhibitions around Xmas. You can arrange exhibitions around Xmas even without wishes and greetings at all. But if you wish and greet and your audience is mostly Christian, so why retreat to a neutral exhibition and neutral wishes and greetings? There is no need. People of other faiths also have to accept the fact that there are other religions and that Christians have their particular time of the year.
In this discussion, I said several times: This discussion would not take place in so many countries ruled by other religious majorities, so why have it again and again in Northern America? Because of complaints in the past and of the try to sell more tickets? Let us concentrate on the first item: For me, living far abroad from your problems, no visitor has the right to complain about the way an exhibition is arranged as long it is done scientifically. Take this example: No Muslim will be compelled to visit a Xmas exbition - but he is invited. Our problem in Germany is that most Muslims do not visit our museum exhibitions because they
- do not understand enough German
- are not interested in museums at all
- learn at home and at Muslim schools that our culture and civilization is devil's work.
To some the topic of Christmas vs. Happy Holidays is silly, but to others it is
the basis for hate.
I read some really silly mails and some good jokes, but I found no mail based on hate. Christmas as well as the Christian faith is the contrary of hate. I am a little bit shocked.
Despite the majority's belief or even our personal
ones, it is our responsibility to be respectful of all people and their
beliefs.
No doubt.
We take no sides.
This is exactly the wrong conclusion. In life, the one without a standpost has already lost. Why? Because others with a standpoint (The ones complaining!) have already won. I like to mention just two examples: On the last biennale in Venice as well as the Museum of Ethnography in Hamburg WORKS OF ART had to be removed from the exhibition because of complaints of one or two Muslim representatives (Their policy: "Avoid problems"). This discussion, by far, does not shot a dead horse. If you are not willing to deal with religious conflicts all over the world, you can only ask "My God, how could this happen?" viewing again at the pictures of September 11th. Also in the US, there is lot of cultural background "unmelted" into one culture.
Best regards
Christian
We only share history and the knowledge gained from that history. Unless there is an exhibition specifically addressing Christian, Jewish, Pagan, etc. holiday traditions, then the use of "Happy Holidays" acknowledges all beliefs and practices, takes no sides, and wishes blessings to all.
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