Thanks, Deb!
>
 Related, this is an electronic forum/list: a public meeting place for open
discussion.  In regards to the posting, 'interpretation' is directly related
to the subject of museums.  True, the posting had offensive, erroneous and
negative descriptions used by the resource (checking with the source the
phrase is no longer listed).  As mentioned, it was not sent to be
discriminatory towards anyone, but as a resource for future discussion and
to bring out the terms to the list.   I suspected many of the phrases used
by the site were invented recently by reenactment groups mentioned.

Yes, Deb~~as you said -- let's let it be.  I am
breathing.......contemplating.....sending out good vibes. And yes,
smiling.......

 Except, interpretation is a subject that has not been discussed for a
while,
and the reason for the posting.

 Question/opinions:   If re-enactors use such terms that are offensive today
(which were common in a specific time or period) and we say they are wrong,
unpluralistic and do not use them in our living history programs--are we
presenting history accurately?  Should we take such words out or note in the
program or documentation at the site/museum, mentioning that the historic
text or script was presented only as a means to maintain authenticity and
realism to the time period and culture?

IMHO, I think this would provide an excellent opportunity to be realistic,
but use the educational part of our profession to teach the visitor about
the past and how we changed in culture awareness today.  Museums are forums
for this to take place.

John

 ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deb Fuller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: "Cloth Jews" and Museum-L irritability
>
>
> > Is it just me or does the population of Museum-L seem rather touchy as
of
> late?
> > While the recent war is bound to flare tempers, there have been
complaints
> from
> > posting too many job listings from USAJobs or other online sources to
> flogging
> > the person who posted a list of reenactor and living historian terms
that
> he
> > thought "we should be familiar with" but not necessarily use.
> >
> > Yes, I think "cloth jew" is offensive but fortunately, I've never heard
> anyone
> > in the reenactment community use it. We generally refer to those types
of
> > sutlers as just bad sutlers or "sutlers who sell crap".
> >
> > I would again hope that the educated people on this list would be more
> > enlightened than to attack someone who uses that term (or someone who
> > innocently posts a list containing that term). Instead, I would hope
that
> our
> > gentle readers on this list and elsewhere would channel the spirit of
Miss
> > Manners and politely correct the offending user and explain why you
think
> that
> > term should not be used.
> >
> > As an aside note, how many of you use the term "gyp" as in "I got
> gypped!!"
> > Comes from the derogatory term for the Romany peoples of Europe -
> "gypsies".
> >
> > So gentle museum professionals, please take a deep breath, think happy
> thoughts
> > and relax before you post. We are here to share information and educate.
> > Indignation for the sake of indignation rarely does any good.
> >
> > Calmly,
> >
> > Deb Fuller
> >
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