some of your facts here are wrong, Guiliani did not view this before
becoming reactionary, he based his opinions on Roman Catholics who visited
it and saw it as repulsive. He reacted after Cardinal O' Conner condemn the
work. As for Guiliani, he became the best arts marketer w/o doing a thing
but being a typical politician and feeding off the public. If (/11 had not
occurred he would have faded into obscurity, because he was faltering big
time. Loreetta please post to leist not to me personally thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "lorettalorance" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 Censorship? Statue of falling woman censored


> Let's see, this was a little while ago: Rudy Giuliani went to see
Sensations
> at the Brooklyn Museum. He saw a mixed media work, primarily a painting,
by
> Chris Ofoli of the Madonna or Virgin Mary. Ofoli used elephant dung as
part
> of the body of Mary. Elephant dung is sacred where Ofoli comes from.
> Giuliani got upset and began a personal crusade against the Ofoli work of
> art. As mayor of NYC, of which Brooklyn is a part, he threatened to pull
> city funding away from the museum unless it removed the Ofoli from the
> exhibition. He did not demand the closing of Sensations, only the removal
of
> the Ofoli. The media, especially the Post/Daily News papers which are
> somewhat sensationalists, took up the cry. Others got into the story.
Blah,
> blah, blah.
>
> After this Giuliani initiated some sort of city government watch-dog
office
> for art. I don't know if it's still in existence. It must not be or that
> Fischl probably would have gotten into Rockefeller Center.
>
> So, the problem was not the entire Sensations show, it was one work in the
> show, the Ofoli which I think is now in some museum and his career has
> blossomed. The entire thing was started by a Roman Catholic mayor, who
> justifies cheating on his wife (at least 2 mistresses while mayor), who
was
> offended.
>
> The mayor using the power of his office and the personal hypocrisy of his
> religion felt it his place to demand the removal on the work of art that
> offended him. Bloomberg has not, as far as I know, made any comment on the
> Fischl. I haven't really seen anything on the Fischl in the NYC papers
since
> it was first mentioned, as "bad." I don't think the Times has even covered
> it, I could have missed it though. The only debate about whether or not
the
> sculpture should stay that I've encountered is on this list. Other people
in
> NYC may be talking about it, but not the art historians I know.
>
> Perhaps you consider the man-who-was-mayor-on-a-personal-crusade,
Giuliani,
> and the offended general public the same thing. But, these are not at all
> the same stories.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: 9/11 Censorship? Statue of falling woman censored
>
>
> > Loretta i have to beg to differ with you on Sensations, this exhibit was
> > offensive which began the Cities efforts to have it shut down. If no had
> > objected to its content and value there would have been no controversy .
> So
> > the situation is similar. As for Guiliani"s reputation, he became a hero
> due
> > to his behavior durring this crisis, however his popularity was fading
and
> > continues to fade with his womanizing.
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "lorettalorance" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: 9/11 Censorship? Statue of falling woman censored
> >
> >
>
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