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I will keep my reply short just to prevent too many stupid typo's (I can
assure you that I knew how trial must be spelled).

I felt free to send this information to the list for several reasons:

- it is museum related;
- trials in our country are performed publicly,
- and: the stealing curator confessed.

I took part in the investigations, and can assure all of you that not only
the damage to the cultural property was most severe, but that internal
theft for quite some time puts a LOT of pressure on people working in the
museum. Wounds remain that will heal only very slowly.

It is most disturbing that at the moment we know where a lot of the stolen
collection is, and that our legal systeem does have time nor manpower to
work on this.

Ton Cremers
http://www.museum-security.org/
http://www.cpprot.net/




> I don't see why the "Trial of a Curator" is not a legitimate post. It is
> about museums and about a serious issue. The "shot" in regards to a
> typographical error made by a non-native English speaker is rather unkind.
> Wish that more American museum professionals spoke and wrote as many
> languages as our European colleagues do. More interesting is the use of
> the
> word "verdict." Unless I am mistaken the writer of the original post
> probably meant the term "sentencing," which has a different understanding
> in
> American English from the word "verdict."
>
> In any case, the question arises whether Dutch law follows the Napoleonic
> code where the presumption of guilt is made, not innocence. The difficulty
> that many provincial Americans run into, is that of assuming that our
> traditions are universal when in actual fact they often are not. A number
> of
> European (and I assume other) countries share the fundamental proposition
> that an accused is guilty unless he/she can prove their innocence. I don't
> know if this is true of Holland, but if it is, then even if the term
> "verdict" has been used in its normal American meaning there is no need to
> for the term "accused."
>
> What I find remarkable is that the prosecutor was recommending such a
> "mild"
> sentence (if compared to normal American sentences where 200 and 400 year
> sentences are not unusual) given the gravity of the offense. The fact that
> among the recommendations was for a six-year suspension from the right to
> curate is particularly interesting-the implication being that after that
> term the curator could resume his profession. The Dutch seem to have
> incorporated into their legal system an assumption that punishment for a
> crime has to end after a period and that a miscreant can be rehabilitated
> and lead a productive life in the future. A refreshing point-of-view for
> our
> society, that craves revenge and brutalization of our fellow citizen who
> overstepped the bounds of law and morality.
> nburlakoff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf
> Of Lynne Ranieri
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:42 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Trail against curator Armory Museum, Delft, The Netherlands
>
> I am not sure if the "Trail (sic) against curator ..." is a legitimate
> post,
> but the observation that:
>
> " The defendant has been stealing books, prints, and paintings from the
> museum's collection for at least the past four years."
>
> and the rest of the assertions, should probably be properly qualified by
> noting that "The defendant has been *accused of* stealing ..." since the
> verdict is not due until December 16, shouldn't it?
>    What a great tragedy if the accusations are found to be true.
> Lynne
>
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