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Hello Smart Guys--
  My art library person wants to copy a bunch of VHS tapes to DVD. OK or no?

  Adrienne DeAngelis
  University of Miami

On Sun, June 15, 2008 12:31 am, David Harvey wrote:
> Kaia,
>
>
> Basically, in terms of copyright, when a photograph is printed either in
> digital or print form it is automatically the copyright of the person who
> took the photo. However, if they do not get model releases from people in
>  their photos or of property that is identifiable with a person or
> institution that owns that property and the property is not in public
> view from a sidewalk or street, then you have the basis of a complaint.
> But...because you allow the public to take photos that may mean that you
> can do absolutely nothing - because the photo is a representation of a
> visit to the exhibit and not a direct copy of it in physical form or text.
> It does
> not matter if you feel that one pic with someone's father is fine while a
> pic of the label is not - once you allow photos you allow ALL photos.
>
> You can complain to flickr and see what happens but they may leave it
> stand.
>
> You should change your photography policy - it is best for the
> preservation of the collections and also would give you grounds to more
> aggessively deal with this sort of thing.
>
> Cheers!
> Dave
>
>
> David Harvey
> Conservator
> Los Angeles, CA
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Kaia Landon
> <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> We've been wanting to add some photos to Flickr for awhile, and I just
>> now started uploading a few.  I followed the tags to see what else was
>> already there tagged with our museum's name, and I was awfully surprised
>> to find 62 photos -- all of one small (700 square feet) very popular
>> exhibition.  Now, these aren't just photos, these are basically
>> reproductions of ALL of the label text, along with everything in the
>> exhibition.  As it is Saturday evening and I just discovered it, I
>> haven't had a chance to discuss with the exhibition's curator, or our
>> graphic designer who spent countless hours on the labels, or my
>> director, but I cannot imagine that they would be pleased.
>>
>> Has anyone dealt with this sort of problem?  Can anyone point me to
>> relevant copyright regulations as applied to photos of labels, and
>> photos of photos?
>>
>> While we do allow photographs, and we should be fine with people
>> posting photographs, this is basically a complete copy of the
>> exhibition.  It is an exhibition on a long-time popular local television
>> program, and I believe we have several possible layers of difficulty, as
>> some of the photos (in the exhibition, which are reproduced on Flickr)
>> are undoubtedly originally from the television station, or private
>> collectors, etc., along with all sorts of quotes.  These do not seem to
>> be "Hey, look at my trip to the Museum" photos, but rather "Hey, I'm
>> reproducing the entire exhibition for you all here!" photos.
>>
>> I'm just speechless.
>> Thanks,
>> Kaia Landon
>> Curator of Education (and tech guru)
>> Mesa Historical Museum
>>
>>
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