Bravo Chris Taylor. Mice are awful. I hate mice. Stop talking
about ways to help them.
Adrienne DeAngelis
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Chris Taylor wrote:
> Maybe it's just the Xmas. spirit talking but is this line of discussion
> for real?
> We are talking about mice here. I lost track, I think the original start
> was something about checking for insect with glue traps... and then
> moved into mice being stuck on glue traps? I had to reply after I read
> through the last 10+ messages all singing the praises of ways to remove
> mice from glue traps.
> If a mouse is in a glue trap baited or not that is a stupid mouse and we
> are doing the species a favor in eliminating it. I have used all the
> traps, whether in work places or places I have lived through the years
> and the live traps are only good for maybe two or three times (at least
> once I swear it was the same mouse caught a second time around too), the
> snap traps are not always so humane, I have seen mice escape a trap,
> even when I heard the trap go off and went to check right away, only to
> find a mouse a few days later, obviously killed by a broken back.
> The glue traps, are by far the best, most efficient and quick way to
> kill mice. I know some of you who wrote before are gasping now, but
> really, one mouse may be cute (especially if it is living outside where
> it belongs), a couple may be a slight annoyance, but if you have two
> then three and you don't stop their point of entry and start eliminating
> the mice already inside, you will have a multitude and that is not a
> pretty picture. I had a house have a break out of mice, and it was only
> a full scale assault via live traps first and then glue traps, along
> with finally finding a hole in the wall at ground level that was their
> entry, that finally eliminated the mice.
> As for live traps let me relate a true story- that house I mentioned
> above- had a few mice over the Thanksgiving weekend including one who
> was found helping itself to a plate of mac and cheese on the kitchen
> counter. Later that day we caught a very, very fat mouse in a live trap,
> I took it a block over to a park with a stream to release it. The mouse
> ran about 15 feet, then (I swear this is true) fell over and rolled into
> the creek. It was definitely a rodent holiday related heart attack.
> The alternative Melissa Duffes asked for below- if you want to eliminate
> mice inside- use the glue traps and hold the mayo.
>
> Not even a fan of Mickey
> Chris Taylor
> Atchison County Historical Society
> Atchison, Kansas - Kansas where the only good mouse is one living in a field
>
>
>
> Melissa Duffes wrote:
>
> >Karen,
> >
> >I have been struggling with this problem as well. When I first came to my
> >house three months ago sticky traps were being used and staff were placing
> >the traps (& live mice) in a plastic grocery bag for disposal. No, it is not
> >a nice way to die. Mineral oil is supposed to loosen the mouse from the
> >glue, but this takes a very long time and can cause further harm if not done
> >very gently (I have been most successful with mayonnaise, but it was pointed
> >out to me that releasing a mayo-covered mouse into the wild was just
> >providing an extra-tasty snack for the local predators). I can't abandon the
> >traps altogether as I still need to monitor insects, but the live cage traps
> >I bought a few weeks ago can be very messy and hard to clean (not to mention
> >the fact that a peanut butter-covered mouse in the woods is probably just as
> >popular as a mayo-flavored one). I am thinking of resorting to those
> >electronic frequency things, but I'm not if they work at all.
> >
> >I'd also love to hear any alternatives from list members!
> >
> >
> >
> >Melissa Duffes
> >Assistant Coordinator
> >Historic Green Spring
> >4603 Green Spring Road
> >Alexandria, VA 22301
> >703-941-7987
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Karen Duncan" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: sticky traps
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>As a card carrying member of the Bleeding Heart Tree Huggers, I have to
> >>ask: Is anyone else concerned about the potential cruelty of these
> >>sticky traps? Of course we must monitor our spaces for damaging pests,
> >>and OK, I can see them for insects, especially with close monitoring.
> >>But it concerns me on several different levels (practical; ethical,
> >>etc.) to think of mice stuck in them and dying slowly. Can't be a decent
> >>way to die. And carcasses attract insects! I'm not trying to begin a big
> >>ethical discussion but would like the list to know about any
> >>alternatives that people might be using. Anyone?
> >>
> >>Peace and love,
> >>
> >>Karen Duncan
> >>Registrar
> >>Frederick R. Weisman Art Museum
> >>University of Minnesota
> >>333 E. River Rd.
> >>Minneapolis, MN 55455
> >>T: 612.625.9665
> >>F: 612.625.9630
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