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To the contrary we had one and it was repetedly breaking down, loosing

its charge, we went through a compresser on the average of every 18

months.



Philip G. Maples, Director

Baker-Cederberg Museum and Archives 

of the Rochester General Hospital

333 Humboldt St

Rochester NY 14610

Phone: 585.992.1847, 922.1851

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-----Original Message-----

From: Britton, Kathleen 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:21 AM

To: Maples, Phil

Subject: FW: [MUSEUM-L] Liebert HVAC issues



It wasn't just us! Of the thread, there were two places considering a

Liebert of some sort and two who hadn't had any problems.





Kathleen Emerson Britton

Curator of Collections and Education

ViaHealth Archives Consortium

333 Humboldt Street

Rochester, NY 14610

585/922-1847

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-----Original Message-----

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On

Behalf Of Dan Bartlett

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:35 AM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Liebert HVAC issues



We have an engineer designed Liebert HVAC system in our textile storage

area, about 4 years old.  I am fast approaching the conclusion that the

collection would be safer if I propped the door to the room open and let

it float with the rest of the building.



Does anyone else out there have constant maintenance issues with their

Liebert systems?  The Carrier system in our other high-end storage room,

while not perfect, operates much better.



Thanks



Dan



Dan Bartlett

Curator of Exhibits

Midway Village & Museum Center

Rockford, IL

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Reply #1

We, too, were sold a bill of goods with a Liebert system that serves our

archives. I couldn't tell you how many times I have mopped up flooding

from the thing. It never has even come close to keeping stable temp and

humidity and we are only asking for 50% at 70 degrees F, not the

impossible. Last week the aluminum cap that covers the heat lamps warped

so badly that we had to get the metal shop to fabricate a new one of

stainless. It has been one thing after another. The design is horrible

and our HVAC guys would love to boot it off the back dock. It is now on

a weekly maintenance schedule. I have swaddled the entire system with

absorbent snakes and keep the mechanical room door open and the light on

so I can check on it every time I walk down the hall. I don't understand

why engineers are spec'ing these units... Ours has been an expensive

disaster.

Laura



Reply #2

We, too, have two Liebert units.  A unit that feeds our special exhibit

gallery and our crate storage.  The one in crate storage did not drain

properly and damaged the vinyl tile in storage.  Now, we have it propped

up on 2 by 4's and works properly.  Our other unit keeps destroying the

humidifier canisters.  We had the rep. out to take a look and he said

the unit is undersized for our application and wants to install a new

humidifying system and service contract for $18,500!



Reply #3

I sometimes feel the same. Ours is very prone to losing its ability to

maintain humidity due to mineral build up on one of its internal bits.

No matter how much filtering of the water they do, it does not seem to

prevent the problem. Very frustrating.



Reply #4

We have had a Liebert Challenger 3000 as the main air-handler in

collections storage for over 10 years and outside of normal maintenance

have found it to work fine maintaining both temperature and humidity.

Maintenance is important.  The only trouble we had was because it wasn't

performed.



Reply #5/6

Lori-

Ours is about 4 years old. The problems began about 4 months after

installation. I wish you well.

Laura



At 01:33 PM 2/27/2006, you wrote:



We have a newly installed Liebert system (less than a year).  So far, we

have not had any major problems.  Is this something to look forward to?

How old are the systems everyone speaks of?

 





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