Hello again--
        Actually, I sent off my comment at the end of the day and so
probably wasn't clear about what I meant.  What I was trying to say is
that students generally cannot depend upon their professors to give them
the awful details about the job market, and so must learn to take care of
themselves. Many profs have little interest in imparting such information
because they are not all that interested in helping their students; others may
have tried but have found, as it has recently been stated on this list, that
students don't listen.  So, they give up such advising.
        Students should undertake graduate programs in areas such as
museum studies, art history, or almost any of the fields of the humanities
because they love the work and are willing to work hard enough to earn the
degrees and then willing to work even more to get a decent job.  Those who
graduate and then are surprised to find that jobs are scarce and pay
poorly just didn't do their homework.

Adrienne DeAngelis

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Amy A Kleinert wrote:

> Maybe we should have listened to the sound advice of our parents when we
> told them we were pursuing a degree in art history and they responded
> "What kind of
> job are you going get with that?!"
>
> Amy Kleinert
>
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Adrienne DeAngelis wrote:
>
> > IMHO, many advisors in these and related programs do not concern
> > themselves with where their graduates are going to end up.  Their interest
> > is in maintaining enrollments in their own classes and programs.  I've
> > even heard one department head state that students who enrolled in that
> > particular program instead of at least going to one at a bigger and more
> > prestigious university were probably not going to be able to compete for
> > these positions in the real world.
> >
> > Adrienne DeAngelis
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, John A. Bing wrote:
> >
> > > The thought that goes through my mind is: where were the course and
> > > career advisors when these people were signing up for graduate degrees
> > > in a profession that is in long supply and so notoriously low paid.
> >   ...
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