I don´t want to minimise these problems, but I honestly think that the
location etc. of the server is really the least of the worries.
Providing Committees get into the habit of using the
www.icom.org/committeename/ rather than that of their current and perhaps
temporary host web server there´s no problem is changing from one location
to another without this being apparent to users including Committee
members other than those actually maintaining the Committee´s site.
Patrick
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Nancy Hushion wrote:
> Dear Roger and Jean-Marcel
>
> I am collapsing my responses on this issue into a single message, perhaps
> to save us all time and to respond quickly so a meeting in Barcelona may be
> set up as soon as possible, if desired.
>
> The question of Committee web sites is a long standing issue which ICOM
> does not seem to be able to resolve - yet. At the Advisory meeting in
> 1999, a strong wish was expressed by the meeting that ICOM itself host (but
> NOT develop or integrate) the various web sites. The Secretary General
> said ICOM was too short staffed but he would look into it, and report to
> the next meeting (as noted in the amended Minutes). However, at the 2000
> Advisory there was still no report, although the Secretary General again
> said he would look into it. I am therefore concerned by Jean-Marcel's
> comment that the Secretary General recently told him he was going to look
> into this. Surely there should also be some consultation with Cary Karp,
> ICOM's IT specialist.
>
> For INTERCOM (and perhaps others) the problem is not lack of skills. The
> issue (and INTERCOM is facing it right now as we try to get our site on
> line) is that we must select a web-hosting service somewhere (in the
> absence of ICOM doing anything) and, for practical reasons, this typically
> turns out to be in the Committee president's own country. But presidents,
> and therefore countries, change. Similar complication with International
> Committee bank accounts - but that is another issue.
>
> Either ICOM will host its Committees sites - or it will not - for whatever
> reason. Please stop 'looking into it' and make a decision!!
>
> I am very interested in INTERCOM attending a meeting in Barcelona if it
> addresses - and resolves - the issue of hosting - but not if it is about
> skills development and technicalities.
>
> Nancy Hushion
> Chair, INTERCOM
> 489 King Street West, Suite 303
> Toronto, Ontario M5V 1K4
> Canada
>
> Tel. 1 416 351 0216
> Fax 1 416 351 0217
> EMail [log in to unmask]
>
>
> At 11:20 AM 4/25/01 +1200, Roger Smith wrote:
> >thinking that we are, has brought us to where we have already been. In order
> >to go somewhere else, we must think in a different way. --Albert Einstein
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >--------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Marie-Françoise,
> >
> >Thankyou for conveying Jean-Marcel Humbert's thought on the future of ICOM's
> >websites. Whilst appreciating that not every committee has been able to
> >establish a web presence or in some cases produce a 'sophisticated' site, I
> >believe that the proposal to "integrate the web sites of all the committees
> >on the ICOM web" runs contrary to the dynamic nature and philosophy of the
> >Web as a medium.
> >
> >There are two issues to be addressed and neither relates to a centralised
> >control ( which I suspect, based on recent ICOM initiatives, is what is
> >meant by the phrase "integrate the web sites") .
> >
> >The first is assistance for those who have not got the facilities nor skills
> >to produce a web site. The second is the issue of content management and
> >the ability to provide self-moderated sites so that designated web
> >communicators can regularly update material and ensure relevance.
> >
> >The first could easily be achieved by making available publishing software
> > sponsorship support opportunity here!) and providing online tutorials.
> >There are some VERY simple and effective packages available and our aim
> >should be to de-mystify the 'techno-babble' that surrounds IT enterprises!
> >
> >The second could also be achieved by providing instruction on issues such as
> >content management, writing for the web etc. Providing communicators and
> >not technicians provide this advice you should be on the right track.
> >
> >The STRENGTH of ICOM can always been the individual identity of its
> >committee and interest group structures, supporting an overall presence. I
> >actually LIKE visiting the various sites, both good and bad, as each impart
> >a different perspective.
> >
> >As an ICOM member of long standing and a champion of web freedom I would be
> >absolutely opposed to any course of action that attempted to negate this
> >individuality through a centalised control mechanism, for one thing the
> >history of ICOM has clearly shown that it is it satellite operations that
> >are nimble and able to capitalise on the immediacy of communication. This
> >could not be said for the centre of the organisation (and this statement is
> >NOT an indictment of our hardworking staff in Paris)
> >
> >As a professional web manager at a university and successful web publisher
> >in my own right, I remain concerned that the only strategy ICOM seems to be
> >able to come up with to share the communication abilities of the Web is to
> >talk about centralising!
> >
> >If you truly want a DYNAMIC ( in all senses of the word) web then you
> >empower ICOM committee members by giving them the tools to do the job, at
> >their own workplace and in their own time. If only 18% of national
> >committees and 54% of international committees have operative sites then
> >surely the answer is to provide instruction to nominated representatives and
> >maintain an online teaching presence for this purpose. Provide them with
> >templates, images, logos by all means but DON'T attempt to stifle their
> >individualism or amalgamate everything into an amorphous mass
> >
> >Roger Smith
> >Former Chair of ICOM MPR and ICOM New Zealand
> >Manager - Web Centre Auckland University of Technology
> >Founder and Publisher of Global Museum
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DELVAL Marie-Françoise" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Monday, 23 April 2001 3:59
> >Subject: ICOM Committees and Internet - Barcelona
> >
> >
> > > Jean-Marcel Humbert
> > > Président d'AVICOM
> > > e-mail : [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > Letter directed to all the presidents of the national, international and
> > >
> > > local committees.
> > >
> > > Lettre destinée à tous les présidents des comités nationaux,
> > > internationaux et régionaux.
> > >
> > > ___________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > Madam President, Mister President, dear Colleague,
> > >
> > > Web sites are currently on the increase within the ICOM. However, all
> > > the committees do not dispose of any yet : at the moment, only 19
> > > national committees out of 105, and 15 out of 28 international
> > > committees have their own web site. Also, a lack of financial and
> > > technical knowledge means are one of the reasons why part of them are
> > > not brought up to date.
> > >
> > > Following the remarks I was told about it, I met Manus brinkman who
> > > confirmed that he would think of the possibilities to realize and to
> > > integrate the web sites of all the committees on the ICOM web. He also
> > > agreed that AVICOM should organize a round table event on the subject
> > > during the meeting in Barcelona.
> > > The matter would particularly deal with the evaluation of your
> > > considerations, the definition of the contents regarding these web
> > > sites, and also the technical side of the production.
> > >
> > > In order to help us to prepare the round table, a date will be soon
> > > decided, I would be grateful if you let me know your wishes and
> > > suggestions regarding the web site of your committee. Besides, in case
> > > your cares and suggestions in this field should be particularly strong,
> > > you are kindly invited to participate in the round table as a speaker ;
> > > if so, thank you to let me know as soon as possible. On the contrary,
> > > you will of course have the opportunity to attend the meeting that will
> > > be opened to all the members of the congess.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your reply and the pleasure to meet you in Barcelona.
> > >
> > > Sincerely yours,
> > >
> > > Jean-Marcel Humbert
> > > Président d'AVICOM
> > > e-mail : [log in to unmask]
> >
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