I want to explain our complicated problem.  All exhibits are the property of
our country and all museums have the property accountability.
Each museum as an other organization has the business accounting for
techniques, materials etc. and separately the accounting of exhibits.
The problem is: they want to make the business accounting  of  the
collections of our state museums(works, sculpture, bones of mammoth etc.) as
a chairs, tables, computers, techniques. Though the rules of  accounting of
museum's exhibits completely different comparing with the rules of account
management.
Combination of two different systems of accounting (computer and exhibit).
This is not unacceptable for us. We would like to know as any country tried
to combine the such kind of accountings, I mean the exhibits and all tools
which are used by employees during the working day.

Regards,

Julia Lytvynets

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From: "Richard Light" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:46 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: ICOM UKRAINA

> Is the original question about museum objects, rather than exhibitions? 
> i.e. is this a "value all your collections" exercise?
>
> Richard Light
>
> In message <[log in to unmask]>, Robert Spickler 
> <[log in to unmask]> writes
>>Dear Julia,
>>
>>I am the president of ICOM Standing committee on Finance and Resources 
>>and,
>>as such, I have received your message.
>>My suggestion to you is the following:
>>You should write to David Fleming who is the president of ICOM 
>>International
>>Committee on Management (INTERCOM) with a specific request to him to help
>>you find one of the expert members of INTERCOM to help you out.
>>David email address is: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>If I may also react to your question, in North America, all museums are
>>subject to submit annual financial audited statements for its global
>>operations. Such statements must be presented in accordance with standard
>>audited practices.
>>In Canada, the exhibitions do not need to be detailed in the Audited
>>statements but are part of consolidated financial statements.
>>However, the internal annual budget of museums does detail each exhibition
>>budget separately.
>>It is common practice to do a specific budget for each exhibition. This
>>budget generally reflects a project management approach. This means that 
>>all
>>costs related to one exhibition are itemized in order to establish the 
>>REAL
>>cost of an exhibition.
>>For example, in a project management approach all human resources involved
>>in the development, research, production, promotion and education related 
>>to
>>an exhibition would be charged to the exhibition based on the estimation 
>>of
>>time allocated by each of them to an exhibition, including the Director of
>>the Museum.
>>There are some budget models for this which INTERCOM can provide you with.
>>However, I am surprise that Ukraine would want to legislate on this.
>>With all due respect the government should rather determine what must be
>>included in the annual financial audited statements of a museum (if this 
>>is
>>not already established) and request, for example, that appendices be 
>>added
>>to the statements presenting the financial information for each 
>>exhibition.
>>I hope this helps.
>>
>>Very best regards,
>>
>>Robert Spickler
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : International Council of Museums Discussion List
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de ???? ????????
>>Envoyé : 16 juillet 2008 06:15
>>À : [log in to unmask]
>>Objet : ICOM UKRAINA
>>
>>Dear colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>>The government of our (Ukrainian) country at the moment is trying  to pass
>>the law according to which all museum exhibits should be hold on business
>>accounting. This doesn't require to the general system of accounting of
>>museums exhibits.
>>
>>Would you be so kind to inform us about existing such kind of practice in
>>the world? Can you give us the answer?
>>
>>Please, we hope to your help.
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>ICOM UKRAINA
>>
>>
>>
>>Ms Julia Lytvynets
>>
>>Membership Secretary
>>
>>General Keeper, National Art Museum of Ukraine
>>vul.Ghrushhevs'kogo 6
>>01001 Kyiv
>>Ukraine
>>Tel/ Fax +38 044 230 9717
>>Email:[log in to unmask]
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