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Tim McShane <[log in to unmask]>
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     Our Board of Directors recently underwent a few Board Development
     Workshops, and volunteer management was one of the topics addressed.
     The workshop facilitator (who directed volunteers co-ordination during
     the 1988 Calgary Olympic Games, and has remained involved in community
     development) definitely recommended firing "bad" volunteers.  We were
     also encouraged to recruit volunteers based on how well their skills
     and experience met our needs, rather than just recruiting "warm
     bodies."  Personally, as a volunteer and as a manager of volunteers, I
     prefer to think of volunteers as "unpaid staff," with the same
     responsibilities and rules for acceptable conduct as any other
     employee.  I know it's difficult to "let people go" when there's so
     much work to be done, but as Robert says, it can sometimes be more
     work dealing with a difficult person than that person contributes to
     the institution.  And as for bad will, if management has a problem
     with a particular person, chances are other volunteers have problems
     with that person too.



     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Tim McShane
     Curatorial Assistant, Parks Canada
     (also, Co-Chair of the Museum Division, Arrow 2000 Project)

     Views and opinions expressed are entirely my own, and do not
     necessarily reflect those of Parks Canada or the Arrow 2000 Project
     Association




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Subject: Re: volunteer horror stories
Author:  Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> ("Robert T.
Handy" <[log in to unmask]>) at PCH
Date:    2/1/99 2:36 PM





 Has anyone ever heard of the idea that you can and sometimes should, fire
 bad volunteers?  How much staff time was wasted on, how much bad will was
 generated by this particular volunteer?  Doesn't sound to me like it was
 worth it.  Yes, she would be upset.  Yes, it is difficult to do.  But
 would
 you tolerate that from a paid employee? No.  Would a paid employee be
 upset
 if he/she was fired?  Yes.  So where is the difference?


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 Robert Handy
 Brazoria County Historical Museum
 100 East Cedar
 Angleton, Texas  77515
 (409) 864-1208
 museum_bob
 [log in to unmask]
 http://www.bchm.org

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 From:   Heleanor Feltham[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
 Sent:   Monday, February 01, 1999 6:39 AM
 To:     [log in to unmask]
 Subject:        FW: volunteer horror stories

 We had one little old lady volunteer who took over the desk at our branch
 museum one morning a week.  She advised visitors that it would take them
 four hours to see the place (which you could actually do in under an hour
 without missing too much), told them off if she didn't like their
 behaviour or dress, argued with the visitor services staff & other
 volunteers - in public - and had fights with museum security.  She was
 particularly awful with children.  Teachers with unbooked groups (who were
 quite entitled to visit) might as well have tried to get past a dragon.
 She would also trap innocent visitors asking simple questions and drag
 them around the place for hours, given half a chance.  Everybody was
 frankly terrified of her.  We tried all the usual counselling techniques,
 quiet meetings over coffee, assessments, peer pressure - if she didn't
 think you were asking her advice about some other volunteer, she dismissed
 any criticism as rubbish.  Myself (senior person on-site), the Volunteer
 Co-ordinator, our Department Head - we didn't actually involve the
 Director, but we thought about it - we all tried to talk to her.  We
 suggested that since she had increasing difficulty negotiating stairs (she
 had taken possession of our branch sever years before, and now walked with
 a cane) she might prefer a nice behind the scenes job with our main
 library.  She loved that - but still turned up at our branch on her
 regular morning - and used the 'walking problem' to avoid morning briefing
 sessions!  She stayed, triumphant to the end, until our branch was
 actually closed.

 I can't recommend shutting down your museum as a means of getting rid of
 an unwanted volunteer (and she still haunts the library), but it
 certainly is effective!

 Heleanor Feltham
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  -----Original Message-----
 From: owner-museum-l [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
 Sent: Sunday, 31 January 1999 13:26
 To: MUSEUM-L
 Subject: volunteer horror stories

 I am presenting a session at our state museum conference on dealing with
 difficult volunteers.  I'm looking for real examples of real problems
 you have encountered with a difficult volunteer, plus how you solved the
 problem!

 Regards,
 Susan Young
 Shiloh Museum of Ozark History
 Springdale, Arkansas

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