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> There are 63 messages totalling 1884 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. chocolate
> 2. preserving dead bird- help (4)
> 3. computer pranks
> 4. oddities (10)
> 5. Re[2]: wanted: museums on the web
> 6. SITES The Tongass Exhibit
> 7. Perfect object labels wanted
> 8. Career opportunities?
> 9. MUSEUM-L Digest - 26 Nov 1995 to 27 Nov 1995 (2)
> 10. Abandoned Property, How to Avoid Problems (2)
> 11. wanted: museums on the web (6)
> 12. Museums of "oddities"
> 13. 1995 UNIDROIT CONVENTION ON STOLEN ETC. CULTURAL PROPERTY
> 14. science and technology centers (2)
> 15. Oddities and Unusual Museums
> 16. School Groups and Senior Groups
> 17. wanted: museums on the web (web museums)
> 18. oddities -Reply (5)
> 19. Visitor Studies Software
> 20. Toronto, Ontaario (2)
> 21. Mountain-Plains Workshop
> 22. New Book Announcement
> 23. wanted: museums on the web -Reply (2)
> 24. Museums on the web (2)
> 25. Biltmore (2)
> 26. internship
> 27. The Mariners' Museum WWW site
> 28. software query
> 29. Job Posting: Computer Specialist
> 30. address - Columus Museum of Art
> 31. Re[2]: wanted: museums on the web -Reply
> 32. Community/Visitor Input
> 33. Museums on the web (Internet Access)
> 34. Gay & Lesbian Policy: Museums Australia
> 35. Found in collection issues
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:01:39 +0000
> From: JDEVINE <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: chocolate
>
> I remember a while back, a discussion about a museum of chocolate,
> does anyone have any details?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
>
> Jim Devine
> Hunterian Museum
> University of Glasgow
> http://www.gla.ac.uk/Museum/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:42:20 EST
> From: Lisa Palmer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: preserving dead bird- help
>
> I'm not sure if ravens are protected under the Migratory Bird Act or the
> Wild Bird Conservation Act of 1992 but according to the Lacey Act it is
> a violation of state, federal or tribal law to acquire specimens
> (including road kill) without proper permits. And if one wants to
> accession the specimen into a collection, how does one legally do so
> without proper permits? I do agree that one should contact the
> U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service at the Office of Management Authority;
> 4401 N. Fairfax Drive, Room 430; Arlington, VA 22201 or phone
> 703-358-2104. There is a lot of confusion on the multitude of laws
> governing the protection of species (endangered or not) so you may
> want to follow up your inquiry with a written letter.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lisa
>
> There's an interesting article in Museum News, the May/June 1994 issue
> called "Butterfly Sting" by Donald Garfield.
>
> Lisa Palmer: [log in to unmask]
> Smithsonian Institution/National Museum of Natural History
> Division of Fishes, MRC 159
> Washington, DC 20560
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:40:00 -0500
> From: Indianapolis Museum of Art <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: computer pranks
>
> For information on this, go to the World Wide Web site
>
> http://lipsmac.acs.unt.edu/Virus/virinfo.html#Myths about Computer Viruses
>
> and/or see
>
> ftp://usit.net/pub/lesjones/good-times-virus-hoax-faq.txt
>
> Anbne Robinson
> Indianapolis Museum of Art
>
> >I need some info on what I'm sure is a prank. Some time ago, There was a
> >brief flurry on this list about something called the "Good Times" virus.
> >A message appeared warning everyone not to even read a message called
> >"good Times" lest their hard drives spontaneously combust and all their
> >bytes go flying off into the ether.
> >
> >Knowledgeable computer people explained that the "good times" thing was a
> >fake meant to scare people and cause panic. Well, panic has caught on at
> >Auburn University -- the English dept. found memos in their boxes warning
> >about the virus. My wife's at Auburn and is afraid to use email now.
> >
> >Can someone please reiterate for me WHY "good times" is a fake and HOW it
> >cannot harm anything? I'm much obliged. I'll pass your explanation on
> >to Auburn and you will have helped them rest easy too.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >........................
> >Doug Lantry
> >University of Delaware
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:13:48 +0000
> From: JDEVINE <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: oddities
>
> Do you know of any odd museums or pseudo-museums? I am collecting
> oddities for something tomorrow. I am thinking of things like teddy
> bear museums, museums of underwear, corsets, pipes, razors,
> left-handed tools etc. The dafter the better. If you know of such
> could you please tell me, with details of where and when??? Thanks.
>
>
> Jim Devine
> Hunterian Museum
> University of Glasgow
> http://www.gla.ac.uk/Museum/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:38:48 -0500
> From: Ivy Strickler <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: wanted: museums on the web
>
> > Rob:
> >
> > Listen, if corporations don't know why they are going on the Web, and
> > magazines don't know why they are going on the web, and corner stores
> > don't know, and everyone and his brother who has a web site doesn't
> > know, what makes you think that museums would know?
> >
> Eric:
>
> Thanks for making sense, as usual. I for one see a certain "Emperor's New
> Clothes" aspect to all this Web chat.
> Ivy Fleck Strickler Phone 215-895-1637
> Drexel University Fax 215-895-4917
> Nesbitt College of Design Arts [log in to unmask]
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
>
> "Never forget that life is like a Fellini movie, and you're getting to see
> it for free."
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:51:34 -0600
> From: Jama Gabbert <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: SITES The Tongass Exhibit
>
> Hello ... we will receive a SITES (Smithsonian Institution Traveling
> Exhibition Service) exhibit this coming spring on "The Tongass: Alaska's
> Magnificent Rain Forest." Just wondering if any of you have displayed this
> exhibit and how you developed it throughout your museum, i.e. giftshop,
> children's and adult programs, membership, etc. Many thanks, and apologies
> for the cross posting!
> __________________
> Jama Gabbert
> University of Kansas Natural History Museum
> 602J Dyche Hall
> Lawrence KS 66045
> 913 864-4173
> 913 864-5335 fax
> [log in to unmask]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:02:35 -0500
> From: Indianapolis Art Center <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Perfect object labels wanted
>
> In our galleries we exhibit contemporary art, and we try to be as minimal as
> possible with the labels, preferring to make use of an introductory panel
> and a handout to explain the work.
>
> Our labels read as follows:
>
> NAME OF ARTIST (first name first)
> TITLE OF WORK, DATE OF EXECUTION
> MEDIUM
>
> The handout has more detailed information such as dimensions, description of
> process used, etc. All work is borrowed from the artist directly, so we do
> not use credit lines.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> Julia Moore
> Director of Exhibitions and Artist Services
> Indianapolis Art Center
> [log in to unmask]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:55:43 -0500
> From: Ivy Strickler <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: oddities
>
> >Do you know of any odd museums or pseudo-museums?
> >
> >
> >Jim Devine
> >Hunterian Museum
> >University of Glasgow
> >http://www.gla.ac.uk/Museum/
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Please include your e-mail address next time for those of us who still
> aren't web-sters. And try the Mushroom Museum in Kennett Square, PA
> Ivy Fleck Strickler Phone 215-895-1637
> Drexel University Fax 215-895-4917
> Nesbitt College of Design Arts [log in to unmask]
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
>
> "Never forget that life is like a Fellini movie, and you're getting to see
> it for free."
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:07:15 -0500
> From: Adrienne DeArmas <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Career opportunities?
>
> In a message dated 95-11-27 11:52:36 EST, [log in to unmask]
> (Elizabeth Maria Cook) writes:
>
> >Hmm, I hadn't thought of the waitressing angle. Perhaps waiting tables
> >in the museum cafeteria should be included in the job description of
> >the museum director. :)
>
> How horrible!!!! Do they make you do that? :?) If you have to do it, at least
> get paid well (now isn't that a metaphor for much in life).
>
> - Adrienne
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:18:15 -0600
> From: Kathrine L Walker <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: MUSEUM-L Digest - 26 Nov 1995 to 27 Nov 1995
>
> Mike -
> On the subject of school groups and seniors:
> Keep in mind that working with school groups creates (some) museum-goers
> for the future. As far as decrease in funding - I've found that in New
> England, at least, parents groups and even teachers will come up with the
> money somehow if your programs are worthwhile. We ran at a 60-75% profit
> margin in Connecticut ( and we were definitely not on the must see list)
> which any business person would tell you is good. (This depended on
> well-trained volunteer docents.)
> The seniors market is definitely worth pursuing. Keep in mind that
> programming should be fairly short in the museum and during the daytime.
> We had our best luck with outreach programs to resthomes, etc. We took
> various aspects of our collections and created slide shows which
> volunteers took out. The personal touch was important, and many
> volunteers who did not like working with children were interested in
> working with seniors. You will also find that your school slide programs
> will work well with seniors! We charged $25-30 per program plus mileage
> outside a 10-mile radius and did quite while. Most resthomes had
> contracts where we came once a month.
> Hope this is helpful.
> Kathrine Walker, Beach Art Museum, KSU
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:26:18 EST
> From: Henry Grunder <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Abandoned Property, How to Avoid Problems
>
> The legal concept under which the whole area of the
> responsibilies of persons having possession of chattels of
> another is "BAILMENT." This may help someone.
>
> According to Mark Ast:
> >
> > At 07:34 PM 11/25/95 GMT, you wrote:
> > >I read the abandoned property information from Indiana with some interest.
> > >We have another type of abandoned object problem which I would like to
> > >throw out to the list for comment.
> > >
> > >Our regional conservation center has several objects in our care which
> > >received conservation treatment. We have had no response from the owner
> > >for nearly three years.
> > >
> > >The answering machine takes messages at the number of record. Mail,
> > >including registered mail, seems to be delivered correctly. Still, the
> > >owner has never contacted us.
> > >
> > >There is an outstanding balance due for our services, but at this point
> > >it seems unlikely that it will ever be paid. We have no written policy
> > >regarding abandoned items, so it seems we cannot take possession of
> > >these objects, either.
> > >
> > >Does any institution out there have an abandoned objects policy? I am
> > >also looking for suggestions on formulating one - how long must the piece
> > >be left before it is considered abandoned, what constitutes sufficient
> > >notice to the original owner, etc.?
> > >
> > >Thank you for your help!
> > >
> > > Lorinda Gayle [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >
> > Lorinda,
> >
> > The following occurs to me:
> >
> > Obviously, I know nothing of the specifics of the case, such as how well
> > you
> > know the party who submitted the item.
> >
> > It occurs to me, however, that you may be overlooking the real purpose of
> > the putative "temporary abandonment." The outstanding bill may have little
> > or nothing to do with it. It may be just a small part of the ruse.
> > Considering the high cost of storage and insurance of valuable items, not
> > to
> > mention the difficulty of finding a really reliable facility, cultural
> > institutions such as museums may fall victim to a subtle scam whereby a
> > supposed customer for your services might obtain not only excellent
> > conservation and other services but also years of free storage, insurance
> > and all of that under the best and safest possible conditions, with the
> > victimized institution being in every way responsible for the safe-keeping
> > of the items.
> >
> > It seems to me that this is something likely enough to happen frequently to
> > unwary institutions, to justify a survey to determine the facts.
> >
> > One way to avoid such a situation would be to have an effective agreement
> > applicable to all items left in the custody of the institution for
> > conservation or any other services or for possible loan. Such an agreement
> > might state not only what is being left off, and for what purpose, and for
> > how long; it might also include a release allowing the museum, after a
> > given
> > period of time, to put the item into a specific commercial storage
> > facility, a hold-harmless clause, the cost of any storage, insurance etc
> > imputed to the party who left it behind, and interest on these charges.
> >
> > Do you think that this could be a frequent problem, and would it be
> > worthwhile to have one of the related professional organizations do a
> > survey
> > or issue an advisory? Or am I being over-cautious?
> >
> > Mark
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> > Mark Ast, PhD
> > Curator, B.W. Schlesinger Fdn.
> > email: [log in to unmask]
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:33:07 -0500
> From: Peter Wehr <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: wanted: museums on the web
>
> >L.S.,
> >
> >For a WWW-project regarding museums on the web we are looking
> >for URLs of museums that have a presentation on WWW.
> >Please post the URL, including a short description and city/country
> >of the museum.
> >In the near future we will be including these URLs in a list on
> >(virtual) museums worldwide.
> >
> >Much obliged,
> >
> >
> >Marco Legemaate
> >
> >Maarten Rens Produkties
> >De Museumserver
> >[log in to unmask]
>
>
> You are welcome to use the URLs at MORR ("http://www.morr.com"), but the
> descriptions are copyrighted. I'd like to add that compiling and
> maintaining these lists is very time consuming. Maybe we should talk about
> combining our efforts instead of generating so much redundant information.
>
>
> Peter Wehr
>
> ***********************************************************
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> Museum Online Resource Review http://www.morr.com/
> Overall Knowledge Company, Inc. tel:(212) 346-7776
> 30 West Broadway, 9th Floor fax:(212) 346-2287
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:00:55 +0000
> From: Boylan P <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: oddities
>
> Jim:
>
> The Symington Museum of Corsetry, established by the originators of
> machine/factory production in the 1860s, Robert Symington Ltd of Market
> Harborough, England, in the 1950s was donated to the Leicestershire
> Museums, Arts and Records Service in the early 1980s. There are major
> displays from the collection in the Textiles Gallery of the Snibston
> Discovery Park, Coalville, Leicestershire, and in the Harborough Museum
> (which shares the former Symington factory with the District Council
> offices and county library), as well as in the Wygston's House Museum of
> Costume in Leicster itself.
>
> Symington's at the peak were the largest producers of corsetry and other
> foundation wear (now termed "contour fashion" - you can do a PhD in it at
> the former Leicester Polytechnic, now De Montfort University) - around 20
> million garments a year under their various brands, including Liberty
> (and those famous liberty bodices!), Christian Dior etc. They even
> pioneered inflatable bras in about 1952 - a conservation nightmare
> incidentally, quite apart from the fact that the wearer tended to squeak
> indelicately even in a (strictly hands-off) bear hug!
>
> More seriously, Symington's production techniques enabled working class
> and lower middle class women to be truly fashionable for the first time.
> In the 1850s the cheapest fashionable corset was over five pounds - three
> months wages for a farm worker; by the early 1870s Symingtons were
> wholesaling a dozen for less than 1 pound. They were also pioneers in
> employee welfare - with a full-time female welfare officer for their
> (predominantly female) 5,000 plus employees by the 1890s.
>
> Leicstershire Museums have around 5,000 garments from the Symington
> Museum - mostly from the 1860s onwards, but with a few earlier pieces,
> while the collection continues to the present day, with samples of each
> year's designs (now mostly leisure wear, such a swim and sports wear)
> still being added on a regular basis right through to the 1990s.
>
> Patrick Boylan
> (Director. Leicestershire, 1972-90)
>
> ================================================
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, JDEVINE wrote:
>
> > Do you know of any odd museums or pseudo-museums? I am collecting
> > oddities for something tomorrow. I am thinking of things like teddy
> > bear museums, museums of underwear, corsets, pipes, razors,
> > left-handed tools etc. The dafter the better. If you know of such
> > could you please tell me, with details of where and when??? Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Jim Devine
> > Hunterian Museum
> > University of Glasgow
> > http://www.gla.ac.uk/Museum/
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:17:15 +0000
> From: Rebecca Mileham <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: oddities
>
> There was a temporary exhibition recently at the Croydon Clocktower (which
> has just been very successfully refurbished and relaunched) which brought
> together collections of "stuff" by residents of the London borough of
> Croydon.
>
> Collections included aeroplane sick bags, Cindy dolls, fruit wrappers,
> mugs... and all the collections were displayed in a suitable environment,
> e.g. the Cindy dolls were in a child's bedroom; the sick bags lined the
> walls of a toilet...
>
> I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're after. Happy hunting, all the
> same!
>
> Programmes Unit
> Science Museum
> Exhibition Road
> London, SW7 2DD
>
> Tel +44 (0)171 938 8047
> Fax +44 (0)171 938 9773
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:01:49 -0500
> From: Chris Andersen <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Museums of "oddities"
>
> I understand that Ortho Pharmaceuticals has a museum of contraception
> devices that they tour around from place to place!
> Also: My mother spends her winters travelling around the southern US. On
> her return she invariably regales me with pamphlets and brochures from
> all the places she has been, including some very offbeat "museums", such
> as the Gourd Museum which, I believe, is in S. Carolina. I'll look
> through my files and see if I can't find some others.
> cj-a
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:04:01 +0000
> From: Boylan P <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: 1995 UNIDROIT CONVENTION ON STOLEN ETC. CULTURAL PROPERTY
>
> (With apologies for any duplicate postings)
>
> The Research Officer at the International Institute for the Unification
> of Private Law, Rome (Unidriot), Marina Scheider, gave a very
> comprehensive and important summary at a major international conference
> on stolen art in London last week. The paper will eventually (?1997)
> appear in an extremely expensive conference volume, but Marina has kindly
> agreed to my posting the text immediately.
>
> The URL is: http://www.city.ac.uk/artspol/schneider.html
>
>
> Patrick Boylan
> City University
> London, UK
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:25:26 EDT
> From: Gay Bindocci <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: science and technology centers
>
> The College of Mineral and Energy Reources has recently merged iwth
> the
> College of Engineering at West Virginia University to form the new
> College of Engineering and Mineral Resources. This merger has provided
> the opportunity to readdress the mission of the COMER Museum, previously
> of the College of Mineral and Energy Resource which was dedicated to
> perserving the hisotory of the coal, oil, and natural gas industries in
> the state of WV.
> Because the scope of the college has been broadened to cover all
> aspects of enginering, and the museum storage area is full, I thought
> this might be an opportunity to consider the possibilties of a science
> and technology museum which could address needs of all departments and
> of the community. It would allow for the development of a number of
> outreach activites between the museum, college, and schools.
>
> Has anyone any information on small scinece and technology centers at
> universities? Any information would be helpful.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gay Bindocci
> COMER Musuem
> [log in to unmask]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:21:47 -0500
> From: "Christopher D. Geist" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Oddities and Unusual Museums
>
> Forgive me if this has already been mentioned; I haven't been following
> this thread. Check out the following reference:
>
> Truesdell, Bill, _Directory of Unique Museums_ Phoenix, AZ, The
> Oryx Press, 1985
>
> It may even be available in a revised and updated version.
>
> Chris Geist
>
> ******************************************************************************
>
> Christopher D. Geist Phone: (419)372-2981
> Chair, Department of Popular Culture FAX: (419)372-2577
> Bowling Green State University
> Bowling Green, OH 43403 E-Mail: [log in to unmask]
>
> Visit Our World Wide Web Site: http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/popc/home.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:35:24 -0500
> From: Anne Arenstein <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: School Groups and Senior Groups
>
> School visits are a significant portion of our audience and are vital to
> building future visitation. To date, our school visitation is up 20% over
> last year, and inquiries about school overnight programs and outreach
> programs
> are also up dramatically. We are projecting 86,000 students. That's not
> only a source of income, it provides a base for repeat visits, as was clearly
> evident this past weekend. Anecdotal evidence suggested that kids who'd been
> here with their schools were coming back with their parents who had never
> visited before--and who were quite impressed. Budget crunches have cut into
> field trips but we are finding that when bussing isn't available, classes
> will
> carpool or they'll contract for an outreach program.
> Older adults are an audience with money, time and interest but it's not as
> easy
> to reach them. Transportation is as much an issue for them as it is for
> schools. When working with retirement communities or senior centers, there's
> limited access to a bus or van, and for those who drive, parking, proximity
> to
> the facility, distance and accessibility are all factors. One of the best
> ways
> to attract older adults is to connect with existing programs, such as
> Elderhostel or a local college or university's lifelong learning program.
> The
> marketing mechanisms are already in place as well as programming resources.
> I don't see why one should be at the expense of the other, although if you're
> looking at numbers alone, students will win out.
> Anne Arenstein
> Director, Public Programs
> Museum of Natural History and Science
> Museum Center of Cincinnati
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:47:45 -0800
> From: Jim Angus <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: wanted: museums on the web (web museums)
>
> >I would have to agree with Robert Guralnick the Web sites are not true
> >museums. The internet has expanded the dissemination of information and
> >the processs of reaching a greater audience, but in no way or shape will
> >or should it replace the museum. Web sites are important for
> >communicating aspects of a museum, like advertising the existence of
> >special collections or exhibitions, but they must and should not be seen
> >as replacing the museum. Museums are experiential places. WE go for the
> >unique the real the authentic artefacts. This can not be replaced with
> >technological innovations.
> >
> >The museum collection is a valuable historic resource, the Web museum
> >pages can and should communicate this fundamental reality.
> >
> >Naomi Stiffelman
>
> Gosh, one almost gets the feeling that some feel threatened by the advent
> of web presentations...
>
> I agree that museums and web sites are not the same thing, however a web
> site has the potential to achieve the same complexity and value that a
> 'real' museum has. Someday, many people will only have access to the
> content of a 'real' museum electronically. It is not reasonable to expect
> that people from all over the world will have the resources available to
> physically visit a particular museum. Web sites offer us the opportunity
> to reach these people in new and innovative ways. There will always be a
> place for the 'real' museum (video tapes have not replaced the theatre
> experience), but the numbers of people and the means they can be reached
> via the web is extraordinairy. The web will not be simply a marketing or
> advertising tool for the museum, it will in many ways replace and
> suppliment a physical visit.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Angus
> Acting Director of Information Technology and Hypermedia Programs
> Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
> 900 Exposition Blvd.
> Los Angeles, CA 90007
>
> voice: 213/744-3317
> fax: 214/746-2999
> eMail: [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:50:45 -0800
> From: "bpod (Brenda Podemski)" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: oddities -Reply
>
> **********************************************************************
> Brenda Podemski
> Registrar's Office
> The J. Paul Getty Museum
> [log in to unmask]
>
> "I never utter the word ART unless
> referring to Mr. Linkletter."
> -John Waters
>
> **********************************************************************
>
>
> >>> JDEVINE <[log in to unmask]>
> 11/28/95 05:13am >>>
> >> Do you know of any odd museums or pseudo-museums? I am
> >> collecting oddities for something tomorrow. I am thinking of
> >> things like teddy bear museums, museums of underwear,
> >> corsets, pipes, razors, left-handed tools etc. The dafter the
> >> better. If you know of such could you please tell me, with
> >> details of where and when??? Thanks.
>
> Jim,
>
> A small assortment of places which may be of interest:
>
> As mentioned yesterday, the Bata Shoe Museum in Toronto,
> Ontario might also qualify: tho it's a slickly designed series of
> informative and interesting exhibits, it *is* all about shoes ;-)
>
> The Museum of Jurassic Technology in Culver City, CA, USA.
> Indescribable, really. A collection of artifacts which may or may
> not have a completely (or partially) fabricated running narrative to
> tie the items together. Assembles fables and folklore, wierd
> "science", and microscopic sculptures under one roof. Anita
> Cohen-Williams recently posted a new book announcement which
> is concerned with this museum (I think the title was "Mr. Wilson's
> Cabinet of Wonders").
>
> The Max Factor Museum in Hollywood, CA. Includes all kinds of
> beauty-enhancing or testing hardware (some of it down right
> scary), including the famous "kissing machine" (to test the
> longevity of lipstick).
>
> The Tupperware Awareness Center in Kissimmee, Florida.
> Never been, but I've heard they have tours and displays on
> America's favorite line of plastic food storage containers.
>
> The Hair Museum, somewhere in Missouri? Also never been, but
> they are reputed to have an extensive collection of victorian-era
> hair weavings and wreaths.
>
> The Banana Museum, somewhere in southern California. By
> appointment only, this vast collection of banana related items is
> curated by the same fellow who presides over the Banana Fan
> Club.
>
> If I think of any others today, I'll be sure to let you know! ;-)
>
> b
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:20:47 GMT0BST
> From: David Phillips <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: oddities
>
> David Phillips in Manchester replying to Jim Devine's search for
> museums of oddities.
>
> There's the museum of Devils in Kaunas, Lithuania - (a serious
> venture, of course, if not the last word from an anthropological
> point of view).
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:16:53 -0500
> From: Gham88 <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Visitor Studies Software
>
> 2b Technology has developed a software package specifically for museums.
> VISTA is a Reservation, Scheduling, and Admissions system that allows you
> to capture demographic information such as zip code, visitor type, ADI
> code, etc. If you would like more information please feel free to contact
> me directly.
>
> George Hambleton
> 2b Technology, Inc.
> 4222 Cox Road - Suite 107
> Glen Allen, VA 23060
> 800-296-8464 ext 601
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:33:46 -0500
> From: Mary Christine Devinney <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: oddities
>
> Jim
>
> I saw a book advertised recently, think it was in the "Wireless" catalog
> (mail order silly things) that is all about strange museums. If you want the
> title I'll try to find it...no garentee that I can find it again - too many
> mail order catalogs come through my house this time of year.
>
> Chrissie Devinney
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>
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>
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:43:15 GMT
> From: DREWERY DYKE <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: wanted: museums on the web
>
> I have to agree with what Naomi says. Web pages can not and
> should not replace a real museum experience. One can not gain the
> same feeling as one does in a gallery. Museum visiting is a cultural
> and intellectual experience. We visit exhibitions to find out and
> feel the atmosphere. We get more involved if we are there and take our
> live experience further by associating with related events. We go
> around the museum to share a cultural and social
> event with our friends. We enjoy learning if we can share it. That is
> quite unlikely with Web pages. I consider it as an individual and static
> learning. Besides how can the blind gain anything, at the Web pages, without
> han
> dling
> collections? I think Web pages should exist in order to supply
> preliminary information on museums, but should not insist on
> replacing a real museum experience.
>
> Funda Pakis
> MA Museum Studies
> BA Prehisto
Mar a Teresa G. Pedroche
Associate Curator
Meadows Museum
Meadows School of the Arts
Dallas, TX 75275
(214)768-1674
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