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Angela Kipp <[log in to unmask]>
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Completely agreeing with Jaki's statement about translations. And as a 
German and a museum professional I wish to make clear that the views 
stated by Christian in no way represent the opinions of museum 
professionals in Germany. This is one author expressing his personal 
views and has nothing to do with the culture in Germany and how we treat 
disabilities and how we wish people with medical issues are treated.

Best wishes
Angela


Angela Kipp
Collection Manager
TECHNOSEUM, Mannheim, Germany
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Am 15.09.2014 18:55, schrieb Jaki Waggamon:
> I think we must agree on two things.  1.  Different cultures perceive 
> things in different ways.  2.  Translation leaves something to be 
> desired and one must always consider that direct translation of words 
> doesn't always equal direct translation of understanding.  Therefore, 
> perhaps something has been lost in this conversation.
> That said, would anyone here call the following a privilege:
> being blind?
> having cerebral palsy?
> having a medical diagnosis on the autism spectrum?
> not being able to regulate sugar and having a life threatening 
> condition as a result?
> etc. etc. etc.
> If you would not, then the accommodations provided to those people in 
> order to make locations, programs, and content accessible to them are 
> not privileges. I think it is quite fair to refer to the ADA and other 
> disability accommodation discussions as rights, not privileges.
> Brava, Jan, on a well crafted and thought out response.  I would only 
> add that most accommodations don't even come close to leveling the 
> playing field, but instead just put those in need of said 
> accommodations on the playing field, albeit still un-level.
>
> Jaki
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, adelheid straten 
> <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>     Jan,
>
>     sorry: no, were are not treating the equal rights question here,
>     we discuss the handling of privileges. To have a dog with you is
>     an enormous priviledge in most museum generally not alllowing
>     dogs. To get a drink allowed in exhibition rooms is a priviledge
>     in museums generally not allowing to have a sip of water in their
>     exhibition rooms.
>     I am not against these privileges, I woud grant them immediately.
>     But only to the disabled, not to the rest.
>     And, of course, more and more museums here are open to
>     "inclusion". So, there is no need to twist the thread.
>
>     And: We are, of course, not talking here about people hiding their
>     disabilities. These people exist, of course, but the thread
>     started with Maria Via particular request:
>
>     "The *number of visitors who insist on taking beverages* into the
>     museum for medical reasons *seems to have increased a lot
>     lately*.  Water (for a pulmonary condition, for example) isn’t so
>     much an issue – we just ask them to be sure the bottle is capped
>     tightly and stowed out of sight when not use.  On the other
>     hand,*many people are now saying they must have Coke or some kind
>     of soft drink with them due to diabetes.  This is more
>     problematic.  I’m wondering if others are seeing an _uptick _along
>     these lines and, if so, how they are _handling _the balance
>     between protecting collections and offering a good visitor
>     service. *Thanks!
>
>     Let get back to this request, please, and how to handle it.
>
>     Best
>
>
>     Christian
>
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