"Gray, Peter" <[log in to unmask]> schrieb:
Dr. Christian Müller-Straten wrote:
"Before getting into another discussion about a wonderful chaotic idea,
I would like to remind all in favour of unauthorized tours that such
group tours by real persons from the outside are forbidden in many
museums
allover the world to prevent the worst..."
Really?
Dear Peter,
Yes, really - of course only for groups, as I said. Of course I can
explain a work of art to my grandma. Most of European castles (they are
"museums") can only
be visited by a guided tour organized by museum personnel. Many, many
museums, for
example in Italy, Austria, Kroatia or Germany allow tours only by their
own personnel.
Where are these tours forbidden? How do you forbid them?
At the ticket sale. If somebody wants to bring in a group (from a bus,
f.e.) and tries to buy tickets for a group, he is getting told that he
is not allowed guiding the group, because this job is only done by
museum
personnel. In Dubrovnik I visited a museum and had to realized that
even
the official town guide was not allowed to guide a group through a city
museum. The museum guide was phoned ad she did this.
And, of course, if somebody offends the rules of these museums, the
unauthoritzed guide will be stopped doing this by museum personnel
immediately. I saw this twice. The decision of the museum directors to
allow only authorized guides of the museum is based on the "Domestic
authority" ("Hausrecht"), which prevents also taking in dogs, drunken
people etc. and prohibits to take pictures, either generally
(Neuschwanstein castle!) or with flash lights. In no case, I heard about
problems, but this matter was discussed in our German museum discussion
list some years ago. Result: They can and should go on doing this.
How can you be certain that what is being forbidden in such museums is
not what is provably wrong, but rather opinions that the authorities
don't want to be aired (and how do you stop the one sliding inexorably
into the other)? I'm not trying to be critical here, but this really
surprised me.
Do not be surprised. The same happened to me in castles of Scotland...
The restriction is general and a matter of caution, of course there is
nothing like a test in competence... :-)
"Have you forgotten the conflicts with the museums missions?"
I'm not sure what is meant here, but I certainly don't see it as part
of
any museum's mission to be policing what their visitors say or think.
Well, it's easy: any museum has a clear mission what it is for. If the
museum itself and its objects are used for other purposes, maybe also
purposes opposite to the museum mission and interests, it has the duty
the stop it. You are mixing something: What the visitors say or think,
might be different from the museums mission. Of course. But they should
not try to make use of the museum for unsuited porposes. Take a simple
example: If the task of a given museum is to promoted peace and
understanding - would you allow some guys to preach hate in the museum
rooms? I heard another example from the workers museum in Kopenhagen,
Danmark: The right wing party wanted to rent a famous museum room in
order to show the press that they deeply love the workers of Danmark. It
was not allowed by the director.
Best regards
Christian
Diane G. wrote:
"Perhaps this is a particularly American attitude..."
Maybe particularly American, but not exclusively so!
I think I'm with Woodrow Wilson on this question:
"I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom
of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best
thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking. It
cannot be so easily discovered if you allow him to remain silent and
look wise, but if you let him speak, the secret is out and the world
knows that he is a fool. So it is by the exposure of folly that it is
defeated; not by the seclusion of folly, and in this free air of free
speech men get into that sort of communication with one another which
constitutes the basis of all common achievement."
Best wishes
Pete
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Peter M Gray
Museums Officer
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