On 11/10/05 2:04 PM, Mark Janzen's electrons arrived as:

> The difference is that Cardinal Poupard understands that the universe
> having a creator is a philosophical point of view that underpins his faith,
> but that proving it is a non-issue because of the necessary separation of
> faith and science. For such a man of faith, proof is irrelevant.
> 
> ID proponents do not understand that fact. Or more precisely refuse to do
> so.
> 
> Believing the universe had a creator and trying to prove it with science
> are two critically different things. The former is an entirely rational
> human emotional response to the universe and our many millenia of history
> and philosophy. The latter is irrational, anti-scientific, and painfully
> convoluted to appear as something new and innovative.

Thanks for the explanation.  Still, pushers of ID may be the crude cowboys
of faith while Catholic intellectuals are more like its wine connoisseurs,
-- but ultimately they're left standing together at the yawning gap saying
"God spans it." 

/sn  

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