Hello all:

As a recent graduate of a masters level university museum studies program, and 
new museum professional, I have joined Museum-h; museum-ed; and museum-l 
amongst many local and national list serves - I am a Canadian member of your 
group- hoping to learn and keep up with museum events and technology etc. and 
pick up kernels of wisdom from fellow museum professionals.  While the 
international/European museum-l as well as all my local and national museum 
list serves seem to keep non-museum related topics virtually non-existent, I 
fail to comprehend how not only are there always topics of no concern to museum 
professionals - although "yes - everything relates to museums" and everything 
else in life for that matter... but those responding seem to have barrel fulls 
of time to read and respond to all of these personal back and forths...and 
while my political leanings certainly do not agree with the current American 
administration, I really do not need to read about who's slagging whom on a 
listserve I believe is reserved for discussing issues directly related to 
museum practice.  

All I'm saying is I've taken to directly deleting all incoming museum-l threads 
because they seem to have degenerated to personal forums and political 
platforms and while I have nothing against the odd comment, there are other 
web sites and chatrooms that you can all use to debate that.  So please I ask 
of 
you to not "respond to all" I'd hate to give up my subscription for fear that 
the next topic might actually be relevant to museum practice.

Sincerely,

Maria Cruz, B.A., MMst


Quoting "Marc M. Mahan" <[log in to unmask]>:

> I agree wholeheartedly. There seems to be so much poison out there from
> people who are involved in a profession that is out there to help and to
> teach. This says much that is not good. 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Pamela Silvestri 
>   To: [log in to unmask] 
>   Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:51 PM
>   Subject: Re: hate mail from list member VERY UPSETTING
> 
> 
>   Nader,
> 
>   I am sorry to know that you and others here are becoming more angry/upset
> and expressing such everyday. As a result, it is also very upsetting for me
> to see such anger - and that I can do little about (except not read these).
> 
> 
>   Please find a place to put this anger so that it is not so upsetting for
> you and others on this list and in our day to day lives. All these huge
> issues that surround us are so overwhelming, yet we have to keep things in
> perspective so that we can function, especially for our children's sake.
> 
>   Not that we push these issues aside and forget about them, but as I said,
> we still have to move on and function. You obviously feel offended and
> threatened by some of the responses you have received and, perhaps not
> everybody can validate your strong convictions, but that doesn't mean they
> are not important to us. What really matters is that they are important to
> you.
> 
>   Since I (and perhaps this is a delusion) like to see good in people, posts
> like this make it really hard when there are so many mean and harsh words and
> accusations strewn about on all sides.
> 
>   If you post any more such things like this, I simply cannot read them any
> longer! It is too upsetting!
> 
>   Pam
> 
>   In a message dated 8/29/2005 8:55:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>     You are totally delusional.  I have no Official capacity in any
> organization or entity in the state of Georgia.  You fabricated these lies. 
> Shame on you.
> 
>     I did NOT send out 51 mail.  Again you LIED.  Shame on you.
> 
>     You supported the hate message under the guise of Free Speech.  Then you
> took things personally when I expressed my Right of Free Speech.
> 
>     You hate Monger!  Free Speech cuts BOTH ways.  It is not to be
> interpreted for you to rant and to talk hate, and then get offended if you
> receive replies.
> 
>     I will NOT allow you to threaten me, intimidate me, coerce me, and
> deceive me.  You can write whomever you please.  I have NO Position within
> any Agency.  So save your threats.
> 
>     Listen!  If you have no tolerance, stop propagating Hate Talk.
> 
>     This fire got fueled by your own sick logic and rationale.  Now you
> tasted your own medicine.
> 
>     For future, respect 1 Billion of Humanity!  If you really believed in
> anything, you would know that demonizing 1 Billion of Humanity is EVIL.
> 
>     That God who created you and I knows how to punish the Sinner.  And he
> does not talk to you, nor to our hallucinating President, and nor through
> those deranged US Generals.
> 
>     God will decide who to send to hell Himself.  Not you!  Not Pat
> Robertson.  Not any US General.
> 
>     That is if there be a God!
> 
>     This Country was based on Equality for All and Justice for All.  Those
> supposed Neo-Cons who hide behind the Flag and want to steal it from me, will
> have to do so over my Dead Body!
> 
>     Mister!  practice what you preach.  Don't you throw stones at people
> while you live in cracked filthy glass house.
> 
>     Threaten me more?  What a shameless hypocrite you are.  And don't LIE
> again.  I am NOT with Georgia State, and I did NOT send out 51 e-mails.
> 
>     I dare you to prove it.  You and Becky simply Lie!  Just like the
> Commander-In-Chief!  Brazen shameless Liars!
> 
>     Nader Rastegar
> 
> 
> 
>   Pamela Silvestri, Museum Assistant
>   Northeast States Civilian Conservation Corps Museum
>   Shenipsit State Forest
>   166 Chestnut Hill Road
>   Stafford Springs, Connecticut 06076
>   (860) 684-3430
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