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Another piece of sage counsel forwarded by the noted
vexilloligist.

--- "Cannon, Devereaux" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Subject: FW: Re: Moving extremely fragile historic
> flags and
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:17:56 -0500
> From: "Cannon, Devereaux"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Candace Adelson
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:03 PM
> To: Cannon, Devereaux
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Moving extremely fragile historic
> flags and
> 
> Devereaux,
> 
> I just took it on faith that these people are in
> Germany because I replied rather quickly. Actually,
> CH is Switzerland and this sounds like it is a
> professional art handling/shipping company that is
> involved. They should  contact the people at the
> Abegg Stiftung Bern in Riggisberg (near Bern) for
> closer, and very expert help and to find a
> conservator in Switzerland who can help them (most
> of the German textile conservators train there at
> some point---even Fonda did a stint there---as this
> textile-speciality conservation lab has been a
> leader for more than 35 years).
> http://www.abegg-stiftung.ch/d/abegg.html 
> 
> The reply below comes from Fonda's administrator.
> 
> Candace
> 
> 
> 
> Candace J. Adelson, Ph.D.
> Senior Curator of Fashion & Textiles
> Tennessee State Museum
> 505 Deaderick Street 
> Nashville, TN 37243-1120
> 615-741-2692 
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> >>> Donna Tissue <[log in to unmask]> 06/20/05 7:21 AM >>>
> >
> Dear Candace,
> 
> Your advise was excellent.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi, Devereaux,
> > 
> > It sounds like a tough task. However, Fonda did
> teach me to sandwich flags and
> > other fragile textiles between two sheets of
> medium thick Mylar (polyester
> > film) without closing the sides. The sheets should
> be several inches wider (at
> > least 10 cm.) on each side than the flag is. The
> Mylar protection then gives
> > support to both front and back and allows curved
> manipulation with little
> > damage. It is light, so does not crush the flags,
> and the slight static
> > electric charge between the two sheets also helps
> support and keep small
> > fragments in place. I believe that Fonda even said
> that some things can be
> > lightly rolled on large diameter rolls once they
> are between sheets of Mylar.
> > The other day, you saw how the flags between Mylar
> can be manipulated fairly
> > easily. I would imagine that the flags could be
> curved in the Mylar support
> > just to go through the doors and have flat rigid
> supports waiting for them on
> > the other side. The Mylar could then become a
> permanent support/protection for
> > them (it breathes). Thick, double-sided flags or
> flags with heavy fringes may
> > be a little trickier, but it should be doable.
> > 
> > I strongly suggest enlisting the help of an
> experienced textile conservator or
> > curator in the move and experimenting with a
> modern flag first, to perfect the
> > technique. There are some very fine textile
> conservators and curators in
> > Germany. I would suggest that the museum call the
> Bayerisches Stadtsmuseum in
> > Munich and speak with the textile conservators
> there (give them my regards).
> > They can certainly refer them to someone nearby
> who can help. The conservator
> > could then contact Fonda Ghiardi Thomsen for
> further details and suggestions.
> > 
> > She and her crew are at:
> > Textile Preservation Associates, Inc.
> > P.O. Box 60
> > Keedysville, MD 21756
> > U.S.A.
> > 
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask] 
> > 
> > Hope this helps!
> > Candace
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Candace J. Adelson, Ph.D.
> > Senior Curator of Fashion & Textiles
> > Tennessee State Museum
> > 505 Deaderick Street
> > Nashville, TN 37243-1120
> > 615-741-2692 
> > [log in to unmask] 
> > 
> >>>> "Cannon, Devereaux"
> <[log in to unmask]> 06/17/05 11:14 AM >>>
> > Candace,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Below is an e-mail from a fellow with a museum,
> apparently in Germany, who has
> > a problem you would appreciate.  Do you have any
> suggestions for him?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Devereaux
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Devereaux D. Cannon, Jr.
> > 
> > Assistant Vice President and State Counsel
> > 
> > Old Republic National Title Insurance Company
> > 
> > 201 Fourth Avenue North, Suite 150
> > 
> > Nashville, Tennessee  37219-2011
> > 
> > (615) 244-2101
> > 
> > (615) 726-0286 FAX
> > 
> > [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > 
> > From: "Indigo Nights" <[log in to unmask]>
> > 
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:37 PM
> > 
> > Subject: Fwd: [MUSEUM-L] Mooving extremely fragile
> historic flags and
> > 
> > banners
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Would Devereaux like to take a stab?
> > 
> >> 
> > 
> >> --- Prevart GmbH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> > 
> >>> Date:         Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:21:22 +0200
> > 
> >>> From:         Prevart GmbH <[log in to unmask]>
> > 
> >>> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Mooving extremely fragile
> > 
> >>> historic flags and banners
> > 
> >>> To:           [log in to unmask] 
> > 
> >>> 
> > 
> >>> Hello,
> > 
> >>> One of our clients (a major museum) will have to
> > 
> >>> move its collection of
> > 
> >>> several hundred historic flags and banners to
> new
> > 
> >>> premises. Some of the
> > 
> >>> flags dating from the 15th century AD to our
> times
> > 
> >>> are in really very
> > 
> >>> bad shape and litterally dissembling in smaller
> > 
> >>> parts. The doorways of
> > 
> >>> the actual storage in a classified historic
> building
> > 
> >>> are so narrow that
> > 
> >>> it is impossible to move some of the flags lying
> on
> > 
> >>> a support (e.g. the
> > 
> >>> support have to be tilted or even handled in an
> > 
> >>> allmost upright
> > 
> >>> position).  Due to the fragility (crispness) of
> some
> > 
> >>> objects they can't
> > 
> >>> be rolled nor sandwiched or pressed between two
> > 
> >>> boards. Any experiences
> > 
> >>> or suggestions to solve this delicate problem
> with
> > 
> >>> least loss possible
> > 
> >>> would be very much apreciated  ...
> > 
> >>> 
> > 
> >>> Joachim Huber, Prevart GmbH
> > 
> >>> --
> > 
> >>> 
> > 
> >>
>
___________________________________________________________
> > 
> >>> 
> > 
> >>> Prevart GmbH - Museumsplaner - Konzepte für die
> Kulturgütererhaltung
> > 
> >>> Oberseenerstrasse 93
> > 
> >>> CH-8405 Winterthur
> > 
> >>> www.prevart.ch 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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