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-----Original Message-----
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of VANBUREN, STEPHEN
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:05 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Friday - RE: Einstein Would Just Be Shaking His Head
- and Bishop Berkeley, too - OT

This very old ID argument (at least since William Paley (1802) and the
so-called "watchmaker proof of God", and perhaps earlier) doesn't seem
to change. It still seems to be mixing things together with the same
terms (with different meanings). Mix in a little of Berkeley's idealism
(we truly exist only in the mind of God), and some of Kant's view of
phenomena (we experience only that part of existence our senses permit
us to detect), and anything at all can be pointed to as a 'proof' of
God.

I personally don't have any problem mixing the apple of my faith with
the orange of reason, but then people tell me most such salads seem to
have a few nuts mixed in.

Stephen "Pass the Mayo, and d__n the teleology!" aka Salad Boy

PS: the Berkeley/Kant things may be somewhat simplified.

Stephen Van Buren, C.A.
UNIVERSITY Archivist and Special Collections Librarian BL241/Box 2115
North Campus Drive Brookings, SD  57007
605-688-4906


-----Original Message-----
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of martin weiss
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:49 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Einstein Would Just Be Shaking His Head

>Hi Nina,
>
>I was thinking as much.  The article was "Christian Right Lobbies To 
>Overturn Second Law Of Thermodynamics" (6 September 2000).

For the article see
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/thermodynamics.htm

Martin
>
>[Sadly, to access The Onion's archive, one must join and pay a fee.]
>
>Best wishes, sincerely,
>Jay
>
>
>
>Jay Heuman
>Curator of Education
>Salt Lake Art Center
>20 South West Temple
>Salt Lake City, UT 84101
>
 

Dear Museum L Members,

I would like to hear from people who have worked with 
or are familiar with any of these three museums:

The Retretti Art Center, Finland
The Gemeentemuseum, The Hague, The Netherlands
Arken Museum, Denmark

Please send me an email privately off of the list at [log in to unmask]

Many thanks,

 
Danna Kay
Associate Curator and Collections Manager
Iris & B. Gerald Cantor Foundation
1180 South Beverly Drive, Suite 321
Los Angeles, CA 90035
phone: (310) 277-4600
fax: (310) 277-4296
email: [log in to unmask]
www.cantorfoundation.org

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