I wonder if the Iraqi's are willing to donate the fixtures from the rape
rooms and torture chambers to a U.S. museum, and if so, would you use them
in an exhibit? How about a collection of tongue-cutters? Or would that be
considered "booty"? I agree, this sort of topic should be discussed in a
scholarly fashion, leave the knee-jerks at home, please.

R. Willis
Duq. U.


> [Original Message]
> From: Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
 > Date: 4/4/2004 1:07:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Iraq donations
>
> --- ldewey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > The 'locals' - no doubt a term of endearment for those subject to
> > occupation and trigger-happy soldiers - by all current accounts, are
> > none to happy with their occupiers, so I doubt there's a lot of
> > 'going-away presents' being offered.
>
> Speaking of offensive - this attitude needs to be taken of the list,
> permanently. Some of those "trigger happy soldiers" are the husbands,
wives,
> fathers, sons, daughters, grandsons, grandaughts, best friends, or other
> relations to people on this list. I'm sure they would appreciate it if
you (and
> any others who are thinking the same thing) would not demonize them in
this
> way.
>
> > However this sentence is especially offensive:
> >
> > >> The Middle East is full of
> > >> ancient artifacts like the Western US is littered with Native
American
> > >> artifacts. People have been selling ancient trinkets for eons
> >
> > As a matter of fact, international law (remember that?) prohibits the
> > removal, much less trade, of 'ancient artifacts' as well as 'ancient
> > trinkets' including from Native American lands in the US. It does not
> > matter one whit whether the artifact has been accessioned by a cultural
> > organization.
>
> Okay, wait a min here. You can drive down practically any road that goes
within
> 50 miles of an Indian reservation in the Western US and find "locals"
(for lack
> of a better term) selling arrowheads/projectile points, pot sherds,
beads, etc.
> etc. that could be anywhere from 2 days old to 2000 years old. Likewise,
across
> the Middle East, go into any market visited by tourists and you'll find
someone
> selling "ancient artifacts" which usually amounts to pot sherds and badly
made
> knockoffs. You're telling me that everytime someone finds an arrowhead in
their
> backyard or a someone in the Middle East stumbles across a piece of
pottery,
> it's illegal give it to someone or try and sell it to tourists? Please.
If that
> were true, then I'd wager most of the US and the Middle East is guilty of
this.
> ICOM really needs to start cracking down on this serious issue.
>
> US soldiers are not going to come home with alabaster statues, cuneform
tablets
> or the lost treasures from the kingdom of Kush. If they're lucky, they
might
> find a piece of pottery walking along the road which will later be taken
away
> by inspectors as their belongings are searched before they leave for home.
> Sure, you'll always have a few profiteers as they'll always be around on
both
> sides of a conflict. But the most your average G.I. Joe is going to come
home
> with is a wad of Iraqi dinars that aren't worth the paper they are
printed on
> and a pack of Iraq's 52 most wanted deck of playing cards.
>
> Deb
>
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