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Well said!
Jill M Koelling
(Iris)
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From: "Hugh H. Genoways" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Scandal at the Smithsonian


Whether the objects were made before or after the birds that were previous
"owners" of the offending feathers became endangered or not is not the
issue here under the U. S. Endangered Species and the Convention on the
International Trade in Endangered Species.  One question is whether this
material was imported before after these acts were in place.  The earliest
effective date is 1973.  If they were imported after the acts were in
place, they needed to be accompanied by CITIES permits from the country of
origin, export permits from country of origin, and a U. S. import permit
(form 3-177).  The penalty under these laws is to be a $10,000 fine and/or
one year in jail for each offense (read each item).   There are plenty of
scientists at the Smithsonian and around the U. S. that follow these laws
on a daily basis and if they don't, they are fined and the items
confiscated.

Finally, I believe there is a legal maxim that states: "Ignorance of the
law is no excuse."

Hugh



>I really only see a few problems with the situation.
>
>Nobody cared or noticed these offending feathers when they were displayed
at
>National Geographic or Duke University or when they were owned by this
>mysterious and unkown collector.  When did somebody decide to make a fuss?
>OH, when the offending piece belonged to the Secretary of the Smithsonian!
>What a coincidence!
>
>Oh, and the Washington Post should probably try to do a little research and
>be a little more responsible in their reporting, try finding out what the
>"trust fund" at the Smithsonian really is before you put it into print.
(By
>the way, they are NOT "private" funds)
>
>On another line, about this "tribal" feather piece.  Was it made before or
>after the birds that were previous "owners" of the offending feathers
became
>endangered?  Shouldn't that be taken into account?  Just some fuel for the
>fire.
>
>Trish
>
>
>
>
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>>There have been a couple of newsworthy museum stories
>>in the last 24 hours that I'm surprised this group has
>>bypassed.  The biggest of these involve Lawrence
>>Small, head of the Smithsonian:
>>
>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37118-2004Jan21.html
>>
>>Another article on this story can be found on the
>>MuseNews lists:
>>
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MuseNews-Art
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MuseNews-General
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MuseNews-History
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MuseNews-Science
>>
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