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James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:57:02 -0400
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    Nick at no time did Sadam Hussein support Ai _Quieda in fact he came on
public television and condemn this senseless attack.George Bush and his
regime used this as one of many to infiltrate a sovreign nation with no
basis whatsoever. The small extremeists group found in Iraq that did support
Al Quieda were in fact in Kurdish territory. A terroitory we protected.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholas Burlakoff" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]


> I fully agree that people are more significant than artifacts. Although
> people have been known to give their life to preserve cultural treasures.
I
> am also in full agreement that the 150 children released from prison are
> probably glad to be out (if they survive and are not orphans-a difficult
> fate in some countries). But, how about the hundreds of burned and maimed
> children who are suffering in hospitals that have no water or electricity
> and were allowed to be looted by folks who cam to "help" ? What did these
> kids do to deserve their fate-support Al Quida, produce weapons?
> N. Burlakoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf
> Of Lisa Moellering
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:18 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]
>
> Agreed - I think Deb Fuller is the one voice of reason in this discussion.
> I too feel a loss as to these treasures - but there is something much more
> important than artifacts and books - people.  Our troops have done a
> magnificent thing here - I would bet the 150 children released from that
> prison value their freedom much more than an artifact - I think some
> perspective is needed here.
>
> Lisa Moellering
> Curator of Collections/Registrar
> Holocaust Museum Houston
> 5401 Caroline Street
> Houston, Texas 77004
> 713.942.8000 x110
> 713.942.7953 (fax)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf
> Of michael russell
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:49 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [Iraq looting - blaming the troops - CNN article]
>
> Thanks.  About time we heard from the other side of the equation.
>
> Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I know this isn't a political forum but that last article from CNN really
> cheesed me off and I really feel I need to say something.
>
> In summary, the US troops were blamed for not stopping the looting of the
> museum in Baghdad.
>
> To quote one of the US commanders, "We're not a police force." (Not in the
> article.) The military isn't a police force. They aren't trained to be a
> police
> force. They're trained to stop the enemy which they have done. Looting is
> EVERYWHERE and there's just not enough tanks or troops to keep everything
> safe.
>
> These guys have been on the go for 3 weeks. They haven't had showers, used
a
> real flush toilet or probably gotten more than 4 hours of sleep a night in
> those 3 weeks - not to mention spending many weeks before that on high
alert
> ready to move at a moment's notice. They've been shot at; they've seen
their
> friends shot. They're extremely on edge because they don't know if the
Iraqi
> in
> civilian clothes coming towards them wants to thank them or blow them up.
> Right
> now, the average solider probably cares more about getting a home cooked
> meal,
> a hot shower, wearing something that isn't all shades of sandy brown and
> getting a full night's sleep in a real bed than stopping someone from
> filtching
> a really old clay tablet. I can't really say that I blame him.
>
> There are still pockets of resistance in Baghdad and the troops don't know
> what
> traps were laid by Saddam's troops as they fled. And up until Sunday AM,
> they
> were still looking for 7 POWs. 4 are still MIA.
>
> Tanks and troops can't be everywhere nor is it their job. I could start
> asking
> where are the UN troops who's responsibility it is to do this, but I just
> won't
> go there. If the decision comes down to protecting the US troops in
Baghdad
> or
> protecting a museum that's one of hundreds of buildings being looted,
where
> do
> you think the tanks will go? My guess is that human lives are a bit more
> important than artifacts.
>
> The US troops freed the city and turned it over to the Iraqi people. THEY
> are
> the ones doing the looting. It is THEIR fault for destroying their own
> artifacts. The US gets criticized for trying to revive colonialism and
> control
> Iraq. So we live up to our original assertion of turning control of Iraq
> back
> to the Iraqi people. Now the troops are getting blamed for NOT controlling
> the
> people. You can't have it both ways. Don't blame the troops for what the
> Iraqi
> people have done of their own free will. Once things die down, hopefully
> cooler
> heads will prevail and people will start returning the artifacts and
> rebuilding
> the museum. But again, it will be up to the Iraqi people to do so, NOT the
> US
> or any other outside group.
>
> Sorry again for venting but that article was way out of line.
>
> Deb
>
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