I have to agree with Indigo.I innocently started the "I need a job
controversy"(ducks) I think. And I do believe professional couresy requires
a response. Fortunately for me through nagging persistance and contacts I
got a job (someday) lol. When Nj ends the hiring freeze. Until then I teach
and intern. I have found out career counselors at least at my school in
adequately prepare you thats why i utilize the professors in my field of
study who have been more than willing to assist me. My rsume, etc has been
created by the advisors in my programs  for which im
          ---- Original Message -----
From: "John Martinson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Applications and such


> It has been said that employers have 200-400 applicants for each job and
do
> not have the
> time and resources to deal with responding back to each and every
applicant.
> However,
> there are the hearts and souls of the applicants, who spend hours/days
> putting together 11 to 12 pages of answers for the required 11 to 12
> questions that are often said to be "detailed".   Then you receive a 100%
> (plus you are a veteran so you get an additional 5%), but then you never
> even get a call back or an interview.  There is the cost of time, the cost
> of paper, postage (priority, UPS, etc.) the cost of envelopes,
> printer/toner, etc.  There is the time applicants takes
> off work to fly to interviews and often many positions have you pay 1/2
way,
> or your hotel room, or reimburses you (months later).
>
> It think it is a case of "professionalism" on the part of employers.   How
> do they want to
> "brand" themselves as professionals?   It is also called "consideration"
and
> ethics to me to send a reply back when I am in that position.
>
> Call it as you like it, but to many it is simply bad taste and rude.
True,
> it is not just with museums, but state jobs or any job you apply for
today.
> Employers have their "pick of the crop" and they can be very selective to
> get the right person for the position.   However, in the process, they
need
> to hold some professionalism standards by responding back to each and
every
> applicant.
>
> If they cannot do this, they should not be advertising the job.  It should
> be part of the budget and expense......and simply their job.   If five or
> ten people are interviewed -- how expensive are 5 or 10 letters and
stamps?
> Many employers don't even respond back to those they interview, let alone
to
> each and every applicant who applied.
>
> Personally, for me -- when I do not get an answer back it puts a big
> "negative" in my mind about the museum or employer.   Call it human
nature.
> Yes --- it means, it was probably the best that I did not get the position
> with them, if that is the way they handle their public relations.
However,
> I am also a possible "visitor" to their museum or business in the future.
> Do you think I would go there or pay an admission charge to see their
> museum?   Not on your life.
>
> And I am only one ~~~ what are the 400 applicants going to say "positive"
> about that museum or employer?
>
> "Hey Frank, do you know of any museums I can visits why passing through
ZXY
> town?  I
> heard that ZXY museum was were wanting to work in the area."
>
> Frank just so happened applied at ZXY museum and never heard a word back
> from them, after he spent $200 on a flight for an interview, and hours
> filling out their questions, cost of sending a letter overnight---with
time
> had $300 to $400 in costs, plus having to miss work for the interview.
> What would Frank's response be?
>
> "Bob, I don't know about that museum...the staff is not to friendly there,
> and I heard it
> was not that great of a museum.....not very professional in their
standards
> which reflects
> badly on their exhibits and staff's attitude.  My opinion of course, take
it
> or leave it...but the
> ABC museum, in the town of ABC, I heard has an excellent exhibit on
"Humming
> Bird Feeding"
> that you are interested in and you don't want to miss that!  Bob, too,
their
> staff and docents are great!  In fact, I recently sent a job application
to
> them.  And do you believe this......they responded back that they received
> it.  Then a few weeks later, I got a call from a Board member and they are
> very interested in me....and I have an interview next week!  They are
paying
> my way down on the weekend, so I will not miss any work"
>
> Maybe that is over-doing it..but is a form of bad and good PR museums can
> receive.   And negative words do spread.
>
> IMHO, I would not like that sort of negativity to get out about the museum
I
> was directing or worked.  In fact, I would have the consideration to reply
> back to each and every applicant that applied.  I'm sure ABC Museum would
be
> sending out letters to those who applied for the position Frank
interviewed
> for.
>
> As I mentioned before, the applicants who apply for positions with YOUR
> museum, could be possible donors or maybe even your boss later on in life.
> It is just a "win win" situation to always put your best foot forward.
> Treat each applicant with respect..and it will return two-fold back to
you.
>
> Too, when the market changes, museums and employers will be searching for
> good, professional people, but do you think Frank is going to want to work
> for you or apply for the position if it is offered again?   Frank is
likely
> going to be working instead at ABC museum and your direct competition.
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
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