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You could try contacting the Vermont Country Store and see where they get
their's from--they have lots of different kinds and they do have a mail
order catalog.

Alicia

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> There are 12 messages totalling 632 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. A reflection on employers and job seekers.
>   2. Interpreting historic house museums
>   3. ISBN Numbers
>   4. temporary registrar position available
>   5. Non-Profit Start-Up Resources (2)
>   6. old fashioned candy source
>   7. long distance job search (2)
>   8. working with graduate school museum studies programs
>   9. Non Profit Start-up Resources
>  10. old fashioned candy source ok
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 11:31:27 +0200
> From:    Star Meyer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: A reflection on employers and job seekers.
>
> Part of the anxiety of sending in a resume' is (a) "did it ever get
there?"
> (if not sent with a "return" card), and (b) "did anyone really look at
it?"
> Here's another good compromise between politeness and being swamped:
> pre-printed/stamped post cards with the message: "Thank you for your
> interest in the posted position. Your resume' has been received. You will
be
> contacted for an interview if deemed appropriate."
>
> If your office printer can handle post card size paper, pre-stamped post
> cards are available at the post office. All that would be necessary would
be
> to print out handfuls of this message on the text side, then dash out the
> address of the person by hand on the address side.  I know personally it
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Star Meyer
> home: [log in to unmask]
> work: [log in to unmask]
> BAGATTI VALSECCHI MUSEUM
> http://www.museobagattivalsecchi.org
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 11:43:53 +0200
> From:    Star Meyer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Interpreting historic house museums
>
> DEMHIST, ICOM's International Committee for Historic House Museums,
> addresses exactly these issues, and many more, which are pertinent to the
> special area of historic house museums. We hope you join as a voting
member,
> and participate actively in order to enrich us all. Please contact your
> national ICOM headquarters for membership. If you do not have this
> information already, you may find it on ICOM's central web site:
> http://www.icom.org
>
> The Acts of the Genova (2000) DEMHIST conference are available, and would
be
> of great help to you. The Acts of the Barcelona conference (2001) will be
> coming out in the next couple of months. The upcoming conference (14-16
> October 2002) in Amsterdam will be about this very topic from a number of
> points of view (presentation, methodology, practical): "Historic House
> Museums as a Witness of National and Local Identities." Information about
> the final program and travel details will be available shortly.
>
> Please contact DEMHIST for further information: [log in to unmask]
>
> By the way, there also is a discussion list dedicated to historic house
> museums which might be of help. Please contact Heather Parmenter:
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Hope this has been helpful, best regards, Star
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 12:16:24 +0200
> From:    Star Meyer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: ISBN Numbers
>
> I'm very glad to see this issue raised, because I need your advice for our
> museum, the Bagatti Valsecchi Museum, in Milan, Italy.
>
> When I tried to register our books with Amazon.com so that we could
increase
> our visibility (and, hopefully, sales), it turned out to be quite
> complicated because we are overseas. They require a U.S. address from
which
> the books are sent to them, and to which they may send the payments.
> Needless to say, since we are a small (but lovely!) historic house in
Milan,
> Italy, that posed a problem which still has not been solved. The same goes
> for Amazon.com.uk, etc. They require the book seller to have addresses in
> the countries where they are located, and Italy does not have an
Amazon.com
> of its own.
>
> The ISBN number issue introduces another wrinkle. Some of our books have
> been produced by both small (or very small) publishing companies and large
> international companies, and some have ISBN numbers, while others do not
> (not necessarily "large company equals book with ISBN number"). Since
> presence in Amazon.com wasn't foreseen as an issue, it was not dealt with
> during the contractual phase with the larger publishing companies with the
> result that even they have not followed through with Amazon.com
> registration. I will look up the sites recommended by others, but would
like
> to know if any one else has had to "retro-register" books which were
> published in past years, and even if this is possible, and if they have
been
> able to convince their publishers to pursue this.
>
> To further complicate matters, not only is the ISBN number necessary for
> registration in Amazon.com (and the other Amazon local sites), but the
book
> has to be registered with a "registration company" (for lack of a better
> term) which is like a registration middle man between the publisher and
> Amazon.com. They, too, require an address with which to deal in the
country
> in which they operate. Presumably, the publisher takes care of this phase
if
> it has been stipulated as part of the agreement.
>
> The upshot is that we are effectively blocked out of registering our books
> in any of the Amazon sites which have such good visibility (although one
> U.K. registration company may have what they call a "short register"
> possibility which I need to pursue which doesn't include the address
> requirement).
>
> It is clear that from now on we must deal only with large publishers who
> commit in the contract to registering us with Amazon.com (if this kind of
> stipulation is even possible). However, this doesn't help me for our books
> which we already have published. Has any one else confronted and
surmounted
> these problems?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Star Meyer
> home: [log in to unmask]
> work: [log in to unmask]
> BAGATTI VALSECCHI MUSEUM
> http://www.museobagattivalsecchi.org
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 24 May 2002 16:58:34 -0700
> From:    Bernard Barryte <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: temporary registrar position available
>
> Temporary Position
> Associate Registrar for Exhibitions and Loans
>
> Anticipated term :      Late July 2002  through January 2003
> Reports to:     Susan Roberts-Manganelli, Manager, Collections,
> Exhibitions & Conservation
> Salary:         To be determined
>
> Minimum qualifications:
>
> Possession of a BA degree from an accredited college or university in
> art, art history, museum studies, arts administration or a closely
> related field
>
> Two (2) years of verifiable museum registration experience or comparable
>
> Computer literacy in word processing, data base
> management/computerized registration system (FileMakerPro), Eudora,
> etc.
>
>
> CHARACTERISTIC TASKS
>
> Under supervision:
>
> o coordinates and manages incoming/outgoing loans; processes loan
> contracts; crating/packing, shipping arrangements; insurance, and
> condition reports.
> o coordinates and manages in-house temporary exhibitions and
> traveling exhibitions organized by other institutions.
> o coordinates and manages traveling exhibitions organized by CAC;
> compiles exhibition venue packets, compiles condition report binders
> o obtains budget estimates and final budget for the registration
> department for incoming/outgoing loans and CAC organized exhibitions.
> o coordinates customs arrangements
> o coordinates courier arrangements; acts as courier when necessary
> o other duties as assigned
> --
> ------------
> Bernard Barryte
> Chief Curator
> Iris & B. Gerald Cantor Center for Visual Arts
> Stanford University
> 328 Lomita Dr.
> Stanford, CA 94305-5060
> USA
>
> [log in to unmask]
> tel:  650/ 725-0466  fax: 650-725-1652
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 16:12:39 +0000
> From:    Tamara Grybko <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Non-Profit Start-Up Resources
>
> Dear Listers -
> I'm in search of good, solid resources on starting a non-profit. Having
not
> done this before, I need to know everything that must be done to meet
legal
> and tax status for such an organization.  "How To" guides and resources
are
> what I seek (I've already visited the AAM website and done searches with
> teoma and google).  Thanks for your assistance.
>
> Tamara Grybko
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 13:05:41 -0700
> From:    Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Non-Profit Start-Up Resources
>
> This topic has been covered at length in the Charity
> Channel fora, and you can find a list of info by
> searching their archives.  They can be found by going
> to http://www.charitychannel.com/forums
>
> Good luck!
>
> --- Tamara Grybko <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Dear Listers -
> > I'm in search of good, solid resources on starting a
> > non-profit. Having not
> > done this before, I need to know everything that
> > must be done to meet legal
> > and tax status for such an organization.  "How To"
> > guides and resources are
> > what I seek (I've already visited the AAM website
> > and done searches with
> > teoma and google).  Thanks for your assistance.
> >
> > Tamara Grybko
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 12:30:46 -0600
> From:    Huntley Project Museum <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: old fashioned candy source
>
> We are expanding and diversifying our gift shop.  I would like to add some
> "old fashioned" candy like those flavored sugar sticks (peppermint,
> sassafras, etc.), root beer barrels, and lemon drops.  I have seen these
> offered in many museum stores but never took the time to note the
> manufacturer's name.  An intensive web search has yielded nothing and as
we
> are in the wilds of Montana a food or gift trade show is out of the
> question.  Can anyone recommend a candy wholesaler?
>
> Sincerely,
> Anne L. Foster
> Director
> Huntley Project Museum of Irrigated Agriculture
> P O Box 353
> Huntley MT 59037
> phone: (406) 348-2533
> fax: (406) 348-2534
> email: [log in to unmask]
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 13:35:36 -0400
> From:    Belinda Nickles <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: long distance job search
>
> I should have clarified.  My last job search was when
> airplane fares were much higher.  For example, I had a
> museum in North Dakota who wanted me to interview.
> When I checked the price of a ticket, I found I would
> have to pay over $1,000 for round trip.  The reason
> given was that I wasn't booking at least two weeks
> ahead of time.  We were in northern Illinois at the
> time and it was cheaper to drive.
>
> Of course things are different now.  Still, when my
> husband and I drive to an interview, we ask
> for reimbursement on gas instead of a per mile amount
> that includes wear and tear on the car.  We consider
> it a chance to be alone and a chance to see some
> more of America.  But I don't advise that everyone
> do the same.
>
> I have negotiated with museums where I am interviewing.
> Often, they will pay for gas or lodging in a modestly-
> priced motel when they can't afford to pay for
> everything.
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 13:45:28 -0400
> From:    Belinda Nickles <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: working with graduate school museum studies programs
>
> One museum where I worked offered unpaid
> internships to history students.  We worked
> very closely with the head of the history
> department.  When we needed an intern we
> would give him a description of the job, the
> length of time it would take, etc.  He
> would then pick out several students who
> he thought would be interested and would do
> a good job.  We then interviewed the
> candidates and picked the one most suited to
> what we needed.  If I remember correctly,
> the student got college credits for the
> work he/she did for us.  Hope this helps.
>
> Belinda Nickles
> Museum Consultant
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> Date:    Sun, 26 May 2002 07:05:25 +1000
> From:    Camilla McRae <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Non Profit Start-up Resources
>
> Tamara
> you should go to Charity Channel  at http://charitychannel.com
> there is a lot of information about non profit organisations, set-up,
> management etc
> Regards
> Camilla McRae
> CAMILLA McRAE
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 18:17:46 -0400
> From:    Susan Hanson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: old fashioned candy source ok
>
> Anne -
> Green Mountain Studios has old fashioned stick candy available in a
variety
> of flavors. They have a web site.
>
> Susan A. Hanson
> History Behind the Scenes
> www.historybehindthescenes.com
> At 12:30 PM 5/25/02 -0600, you wrote:
> >We are expanding and diversifying our gift shop.  I would like to add
some
> >"old fashioned" candy like those flavored sugar sticks (peppermint,
> >sassafras, etc.), root beer barrels, and lemon drops.  I have seen these
> >offered in many museum stores but never took the time to note the
> >manufacturer's name.  An intensive web search has yielded nothing and as
we
> >are in the wilds of Montana a food or gift trade show is out of the
> >question.  Can anyone recommend a candy wholesaler?
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Anne L. Foster
> >Director
> >Huntley Project Museum of Irrigated Agriculture
> >P O Box 353
> >Huntley MT 59037
> >phone: (406) 348-2533
> >fax: (406) 348-2534
> >email: [log in to unmask]
> >
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> Date:    Sat, 25 May 2002 21:53:42 -0400
> From:    "Scott D. Peters" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: long distance job search
>
> Heck, I had a bunch of out of state interviews at a time when I really
> needed to get a job anywhere in the field, as well as an excuse to get
away
> from a job that I really hated. (Long story short: left a job at a living
> history site for a variety of reasons, personal as well as professional
and
> wound up back in retail when job offers didn't come in as I had sort of
> hoped.) In all cases, I did preliminary interviews by phone. We talked and
> we got a fairly good idea of each other from the phone interview. One
place
> really wanted me, and I would have gone to work for them in a heartbeat.
But
> I knew what they were offering and couldn't move my family nearly 1,000
> miles for what they were paying. It would have been a great opportunity if
I
> was younger and single.
> The places that did ask me to come out for a face to face were a mixed bag
> of who paid what. One site, for which I interviewed for a director
position,
> paid my airfare and took care of my lodging. They asked me to get the
> cheapest airfare I could find. I managed to get a decent fare, which they
> picked up, and I was put up in a $200+ suite. Very nice.
>
> Another place, for which I interviewed for an assistant director position,
> put me up in their on-site guest site for two nights, but I had to pay my
> own airfare. They met me at the airport.
> Fortunately, I got a good fare again.
> When all was said and done, it didn't matter whether I got offers or not
as
> a result of these interviews. The positions and locations would not have
> been the right situations for my family, and the interviews allowed me to
> better make that judgment. But the trips also gave me a chance to get away
> and have badly needed mini-vacations just to clear my head.
>
> I did have one other out of state interview. This time it was for an
> interpretation director's position at a state park in a place I thought I
> would like to move my family too. In this case, the state park couldn't
pick
> up the airfare, but they did spring for a hotel room. The airfare,
however,
> would have been near $1000, which was just not going to happen from my
> wallet. So the decision was made to drive. Since it was a position that
> sounded very good and in a location we thought would be good for us as a
> family, and the phone interview seemed to go very well, we decided that my
> wife and son would come with me. The site said no problem and we made the
> trip a long family weekend. The high hopes we had going down were
> disappointed once we had a chance to visit and look around the area. The
> position and the site were not quite what I expected, and I wasn't
> comfortable with the idea of working there after I visited the site. We
also
> had pictured the area a bit differently and were very disappointed to see
> that the surrounding communities were very similar to what we didn't like
> about county in which we were already living. The opportunity to go down
and
> see the place, as a family and for only the price of food and gas, was
> invaluable in giving me a better idea of where to focus my job search and
> what to expect in the future.
> I desperately needed a job, but as we learned, we would be better off just
> getting by until the right position came along than to make what could
later
> prove to be a big mistake if we moved to the wrong place for the wrong
> position.
>
> Scott D. Peters
> Research Director/Archivist
> Ocean County Historical Society
> 26 Hadley Ave., P.O. Box 2191
> Toms River, NJ 08754-2191
> (732) 341-1880
> [log in to unmask]
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> frequently the baubles of imbecility, or
> the sparkling decorations of meretricious pageantry"
>
> William Griffith, on behalf, and by order of the New-Jersey Society for
> promoting the gradual Abolition
> of Slavery, Twelfth Month (December) 20th, 1803
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Belinda Nickles" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: long distance job search
>
>
> > I should have clarified.  My last job search was when
> > airplane fares were much higher.  For example, I had a
> > museum in North Dakota who wanted me to interview.
> > When I checked the price of a ticket, I found I would
> > have to pay over $1,000 for round trip.  The reason
> > given was that I wasn't booking at least two weeks
> > ahead of time.  We were in northern Illinois at the
> > time and it was cheaper to drive.
> >
> > Of course things are different now.  Still, when my
> > husband and I drive to an interview, we ask
> > for reimbursement on gas instead of a per mile amount
> > that includes wear and tear on the car.  We consider
> > it a chance to be alone and a chance to see some
> > more of America.  But I don't advise that everyone
> > do the same.
> >
> > I have negotiated with museums where I am interviewing.
> > Often, they will pay for gas or lodging in a modestly-
> > priced motel when they can't afford to pay for
> > everything.
> >
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