David - I'm sooo glad you spoke up about this issue. Thank you. I have been
following this thread & was saddened by some of the comments of
"enlightened" individuals. Even tho I am an Anthropologist & a balagana
(white person) I understand & respect native american cultures. I have
experienced some beautiful supernatural (altho I would not consider them
"not natural") activities while on the Rez. I have also had a very scary
experience, so I have learned not to judge another's reality. One more
comment, I think science has become a religion & its dogma is-if it can't
be tested in the lab then it does not exist.
Well this should add some more fuel to the fire.

Gerri Green
Development Officer
Mesa Southwest Museum



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I'm the collections manager for the White Mountain
Apache Tribe -- and the belief in ghosts and
supernatural activities are commonly held by community
(and museum) members.  Not only is it intrinsic to the
spiritual nature of this culture, it is accepted as
common fact here.  I've already had several
interesting experiences here, some more amusing than
frightening, others just a bit too "Sixth Sense" for
me.

We have at our disposal, cultural traditions that deal
with the interactions of supernatural and merely
natural phenomena, and how to put "them" at rest.
These events are considered as real as the grass or
trees around us, and "enlightened" individuals who
scoff at such things should come and spend some time
here with me and listen to the stories others tell
with supreme conviction.

David Bingell
Collections Manager
Nohwike' Bagowa White Mountain Apache Cultural Center
and Museum

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