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Ana Conceicao <[log in to unmask]>
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I can understand what jennifer is going throw. I have a degree in
Anthropology and the most difficult part of doing my final work, was not
doing the research itself, but choosing the subject. And unfortunately my
teacher wasn’t very helpful. Sometimes experienced teachers don’t understand
that if we are their students that mean that we don’t have the experience
they have and we often feel lost. Giving a hand/support is not doing our
work.

You pass several years of your life studying the big subjects of your
degree, normally in a generalist way and then you are asked to choose a very
small limited subject from all that. Obviously you do not know were to
start. Well, it might be helpful if someone could make a list of possible
subjects. But even that is not enough.

I think it won’t be a bad idea if you think about the places where you would
like to work after finishing you degree (That will guarantee that it’s a
subject that you like). What could be useful for them? Is there any research
that you can do that would improve that institution? My advice is, after
thinking about this, go and speak with them. Expose your ideas and who knows
if that isn’t the opportunity to find a future job?

I wish you all the luck

Ana Teresa da Conceicao
Portugal


>From: Aaron Marcavitch <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Thesis Topic
>Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:31:43 -0700
>
>Way to go Amy.  I love the discussion on this list and
>it has helped a great deal.  (I will be contacting a
>few people soon about my own research and a possible
>internship, just because of suggestions I had gotten
>on this list.)
>
>But, there is no need, and I have seen it on WAY too
>many other lists, to tell someone to go bugger off
>when they ask for a few ideas. Our ideas may be crap
>but at least it gets the juices flowing.  These
>people, like Jennifer, are not asking for you to
>outline the six books they should read on this topic
>and then write a paragraph for her, but they are
>asking you--as the EXPERTS in the field--where to go
>to start the process.  All too often advisors are
>difficult to consult with.  Why not ask the group of
>people, who collectively have a knowledge better than
>a library, about the next steps to take.  I dont
>expect Jennifer is writing her paper from our
>suggestions.  Instead she hears about a topic "NAGPRA
>policy and musuems" and goes off to find out about all
>the books on NAGPRA. Suddenly she is vaulted to a
>discussion on museums and native americans and her
>thesis topic is only tangently associated with what we
>discussed.
>
>Us folks in the Masters programs are intellegent
>people.  We aren't asking for the world from you.  We
>are asking for a bit of help.  My last job was found
>through a discussion group like this one.  I put out
>my name, said HI! and asked if anyone knew of any
>jobs.  I had looked at all the other listings.  Most
>of them said "masters and 5 years required" when I had
>a bachelors and SQUAT for experience beyond an
>internship.  But on that list someone said "well we
>are looking for a program assistant, would you be
>interested" and suddenly I am in the best job of my
>life.  They knew because they found me online, that I
>knew how computers work.  That meant they could ask me
>computer questions, something they were dying to know.
>
>Instead what those of you who push us away are doing
>is saying "leave us alone, go find your own job, but
>not mine" or "my ideas are my own, not yours, so go
>find someone else to bug"  I can get that kind of
>treatment in my own library or bookstore.  Instead I
>hope to come here in search of people who helped me
>find places like the Pink Palace in Memphis or
>Cheekwood in Nashville, places that will (hopefully)
>someday lead me in directions I need to go with course
>work.
>
>Dont get too full of yourselves by thinking that you
>are the first person we come to.  Far from it often
>times.
>
>Thank for listening, I hope I dont alienate my future
>boss, and please remember we are just trying to make
>it in the same world you are.
>
>Aaron
>
>=====
>Aaron Marcavitch
>www.aaronmarcavitch.com
>
>(current) M.A. in Public History
>Middle Tennessee State University
>
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