Hi all, I have been asked why I said that both terms do not mean the same and making the statement Gown 2) is the same as dress 1). To my logical understanding, two word mean the same only if they denote completely the same object. As both terms refer to different objects, they do not mean "the same". My conclusion would be the same, if only one of both terms in question would refer to different objects. Christian Am 04.08.2018 um 08:16 schrieb C. Müller-Straten: > > Hi, > > > to my personal understanding the terminological question is difficult, > because both terms do not mean the same - and both have different > meanings. In most cases, the context will solve the problem. > > *Dress* > > 1) a female garment, covering//the body above OR below the waist (1-3 > or more pieces) see ICOM definition > > 2) the same as a (traditional) costume, libery, array, garb. But for > both, men and women. > > *Gown* has even more meanings is mostly in use for female garments, > but quite different ones: > > 1) the same as a lab coat, work coat, smock, pinafore, frock... > > 2) the same as dress 1) = an general or generic term. > > 3) the same as a (plastic) cape used in a barber's shop (=a special cape) > > 4) the same as a cape = a general or generic term > > 5) the same as a festive (long) evening gown= ball gown = a special > dress 1), in contrary to the little black dress or so-called cocktail > dresses. > > By the way: The historical ICOM vocabulary should be used with > caution; it contains lots of omissions and errors. > > Best > > > Christian Mueller-Straten > > See also http://www.museum-aktuell.de/index.php?site=kwb&TM=8 > > > > Am 03.08.2018 um 08:24 schrieb Margaret Geiss-Mooney: >> >> Good evening, MuseumLers – Take a look at the Terminology resource >> offered online by the ICOM – Committee for Costume via their webpage: >> >> http://network.icom.museum/costume/publications/terminology/ >> >> Document what and why your final decision in writing so future >> generations can follow your reasoning. >> >> Regards, >> >> Meg >> >> . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___________ >> >> Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney >> >> Textile/Costume Conservator & >> >> Collections Care/Management Consultant >> >> Professional Associate – AIC >> >> National Heritage Responder - AIC >> >> 1-707-763-8694 >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> | Linked-In <https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaretgeissmooney> >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Josh Jordan >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> I have a question regarding how institutions differentiate >> between a "dress" and a "gown" in their catalogs. Does it have >> to do with the material it is made from? Is it the event the >> garment would be worn to? What criteria is used? I did see in >> Chenhall's Nomenclature that a gown is a type of dress. >> >> Want to know how institutions in the field define the terms. >> Thanks >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-HOME.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> > > -- > *Verlag Dr. Christian Müller-Straten* > Crossmedia-Spezialverlag für die Bewahrung von Kultur und Natur > Redaktion: Dr. Adelheid Straten ([log in to unmask]) > Herausgeber: Dr. Christian Mueller-Straten > Kunzweg 23, 81243 München, Germany > http://www.museum-aktuell.de T. 0049-(0)89-839 690 43, Fax -44, > [log in to unmask] > Üblicherweise erreichbar: 7-20 h MEZ > Media: MUSEUM AKTUELL print und MUSEUM AKTUELL Online (mit Tausenden > von Jobs in MUSC-Jobs), EXPOTIME!, > RESTAURATORENBLÄTTER - Papers in Conservation, das große > Restauratoren-Wörterbuch KONSERVATIV, Europäisches Museumsportal > www.museum-aktuell.de > Kommerzielle Anliegen: Medienberatung Lutz F. 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