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Nancy Hushion <[log in to unmask]>
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Dear Roger and Jean-Marcel

I am collapsing my responses on this issue into a single message, perhaps 
to save us all time and to respond quickly so a meeting in Barcelona may be 
set up as soon as possible, if desired.

The question of Committee web sites is a long standing issue which ICOM 
does not seem to be able to resolve - yet.  At the Advisory meeting in 
1999, a strong wish was expressed by the meeting that ICOM itself host (but 
NOT develop or integrate) the various web sites.  The Secretary General 
said ICOM was too short staffed but he would look into it, and report to 
the next meeting (as noted in the amended Minutes).  However, at the 2000 
Advisory there was still no report, although the Secretary General again 
said he would look into it.  I am therefore concerned by Jean-Marcel's 
comment that the Secretary General recently told him he was going to look 
into this.  Surely there should also be some consultation with Cary Karp, 
ICOM's IT specialist.

For INTERCOM (and perhaps others) the problem is not lack of skills.  The 
issue (and INTERCOM is facing it right now as we try to get our site on 
line) is that we must select a web-hosting service somewhere (in the 
absence of ICOM doing anything) and, for practical reasons, this typically 
turns out to be in the Committee president's own country.  But presidents, 
and therefore countries, change.  Similar complication with International 
Committee bank accounts - but that is another issue.

Either ICOM will host its Committees sites - or it will not - for whatever 
reason.  Please stop 'looking into it' and make a decision!!

I am very interested in INTERCOM attending a meeting in Barcelona if it 
addresses  - and resolves - the issue of hosting - but not if it is about 
skills development and technicalities.

Nancy Hushion
Chair, INTERCOM
489 King Street West, Suite 303
Toronto, Ontario M5V 1K4
Canada

Tel.    1 416 351 0216
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At 11:20 AM 4/25/01 +1200, Roger Smith wrote:
>thinking that we are, has brought us to where we have already been. In order
>to go somewhere else, we must think in a different way. --Albert Einstein
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Marie-Françoise,
>
>Thankyou for conveying Jean-Marcel Humbert's thought on the future of ICOM's
>websites.  Whilst appreciating that not every committee has been able to
>establish a web presence or in some cases produce a 'sophisticated' site, I
>believe that the proposal to "integrate the web sites of all the committees
>on the ICOM web"  runs contrary to the dynamic nature and philosophy of the
>Web as a medium.
>
>There are two issues to be addressed and neither relates to a centralised
>control ( which I suspect, based on recent ICOM initiatives, is what is
>meant by the phrase "integrate the web sites") .
>
>The first is assistance for those who have not got the facilities nor skills
>to produce a web site.  The second is the issue of content management and
>the ability to provide self-moderated sites so that designated web
>communicators can regularly update material and ensure relevance.
>
>The first could easily be achieved by making available publishing software
>  sponsorship support opportunity here!) and providing online tutorials.
>There are some VERY simple and effective packages available and our aim
>should be to de-mystify the 'techno-babble' that surrounds IT enterprises!
>
>The second could also be achieved by providing instruction on issues such as
>content management, writing for the web etc.  Providing communicators and
>not technicians provide this advice you should be on the right track.
>
>The STRENGTH of ICOM can always been the individual identity of its
>committee and interest group structures, supporting an overall presence.  I
>actually LIKE visiting the various sites, both good and bad, as each impart
>a different perspective.
>
>As an ICOM member of long standing and a champion of web freedom I would be
>absolutely opposed to any course of action that attempted to negate this
>individuality through a centalised control mechanism,  for one thing the
>history of ICOM has clearly shown that it is it satellite operations that
>are nimble and able to capitalise on the immediacy of communication.  This
>could not be said for the centre of the organisation (and this statement is
>NOT an indictment of our hardworking staff in Paris)
>
>As a professional web manager at a university and successful web publisher
>in my own right, I remain concerned that the only strategy ICOM seems to be
>able to come up with to share the communication abilities of the Web is to
>talk about centralising!
>
>If you truly want a DYNAMIC ( in all senses of the word) web then you
>empower ICOM committee members by giving them the tools to do the job, at
>their own workplace and in their own time.  If only 18% of national
>committees and 54% of international committees have operative sites then
>surely the answer is to provide instruction to nominated representatives and
>maintain an online teaching presence for this purpose.  Provide them with
>templates, images, logos by all means but DON'T attempt to stifle their
>individualism or amalgamate everything into an amorphous mass
>
>Roger Smith
>Former Chair of ICOM MPR and ICOM New Zealand
>Manager - Web Centre Auckland University of Technology
>Founder and Publisher of Global Museum
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DELVAL Marie-Françoise" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, 23 April 2001 3:59
>Subject: ICOM Committees and Internet - Barcelona
>
>
> > Jean-Marcel Humbert
> > Président d'AVICOM
> > e-mail : [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Letter directed to all the presidents of the national, international and
> >
> > local committees.
> >
> > Lettre destinée à tous les présidents des comités nationaux,
> > internationaux et régionaux.
> >
> > ___________________________________
> >
> >
> > Madam President, Mister President, dear Colleague,
> >
> > Web sites are currently on the increase within the ICOM. However, all
> > the committees do not dispose of any yet : at the moment, only 19
> > national committees out of 105, and 15 out of 28 international
> > committees have their own web site. Also, a lack of financial and
> > technical knowledge means are one of the reasons why part of them are
> > not brought up to date.
> >
> > Following the remarks I was told about it, I met Manus brinkman who
> > confirmed that he would think of the possibilities to realize and to
> > integrate the web sites of all the committees on the ICOM web. He also
> > agreed that AVICOM should organize a round table event on the subject
> > during the meeting in Barcelona.
> > The matter would particularly deal with the evaluation of your
> > considerations, the definition of the contents regarding these web
> > sites, and also the technical side of the production.
> >
> > In order to help us to prepare the round table, a date will be soon
> > decided, I would be grateful if you let me know your wishes and
> > suggestions regarding the web site of your committee. Besides, in case
> > your cares and suggestions in this field should be particularly strong,
> > you are kindly invited to participate in the round table as a speaker ;
> > if so, thank you to let me know as soon as possible. On the contrary,
> > you will of course have the opportunity to attend the meeting that will
> > be opened to all the members of the congess.
> >
> > Looking forward to your reply and the pleasure to meet you in Barcelona.
> >
> > Sincerely yours,
> >
> > Jean-Marcel Humbert
> > Président d'AVICOM
> > e-mail : [log in to unmask]
>
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