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ieteke witteveen <[log in to unmask]>
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Dear Colleagues, 


Can you please inform me if there any conclusion on below discussion 
on RO or RA and its consequences?

For MAC as Caribbean regional museum association we have the need to work
together through language and political barriers, as we still have to
overcome a common history of 500 years of colonial control and pieces broken
off from the original context. 
The colonial heritage is even reflected in the ICOM: 
Caribbean ICOM members of non independent countries of the British, Dutch,
French, VS Caribbean are 'dependent' of their ICOM 'mother' countries. 

It seems a detail, but it is a hindrance for shared regional action for
empowering our communities with an enriched, real and cultural diverse
Caribbean memory. 

This situation will be discussed in a special meeting on June 3rd, 2008
during ICOM- Advisory Committee.     







-----Original Message-----
From: International Council of Museums Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Damdin Tsedmaa
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:50 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: VS: ICOM Regionalisation

 
   
   Dear Colleagues, 
   
  I think  regional  organisation  has more benefit for museus. We have
experenced emplementing the project by Samp. I'm agree with you. It is  more
easy to collabrate other museums. 
  D. Tsedmaa
   Mongolia  

Violata Ekpo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  Dear Colleagues,

Do we need to over-emphasize regions and regional
organizations? 

I think that result-oriented project-based
associations would be much more productive that
regional ones. 

Samp is an excellent example of cross-boundary
international museum collaboration based on specific
projects, which can be used by ICOM. Why create more
overlapping regional sub-divisions in stead of
project-based international collaborations, which
would ensure better utilization of the funding.

I would like to see more financial allocations to
collaborative inter-museum or inter-national
committees projects.

Violeta Ekpo 
--- Carlos Roberto Ferreira Brandao 
wrote:

> Dear colleagues
> If I understood right, the change from RO to RA
> enables committees to 
> promote easier integration beyond the UNESCO
> official regions 
> constraints, so perhaps the word Regional is the
> problem.
> For instance, following an idea born in Paris 2006
> Advisory Committee 
> Meeting, the Portuguese speaking national committees
> met in Vienna and 
> discussed future collaboration, starting with a
> consensual version of 
> the Code of Ethics, but foreseeing a more dynamic
> and productive 
> interaction. We considered the fact that East Timor,
> Mozambique and 
> St. Tomé and Prince do not have ICOM national
> committees and that our 
> recent efforts to contact ICOM Angola failed. In
> addition, there are 
> thriving Portuguese speaking communities in
> different countries and we 
> may enhance information and expertise sharing, and
> even exhibition 
> exchanges among these communities if we join forces,
> perhaps in an 
> institutional way.
> We are not proposing a RA now, nor I have the
> mandate to this, but we 
> could in the future. This does not prevent ICOM-BR
> from being an 
> active member of ICOM LAC and/or to develop other
> partnerships. In 
> fact, we had a very nice meeting of Latin American
> and Caribbean ICOM 
> national committees with ICOM US and ICOM Canada,
> although this was a 
> very initial, though interesting contact. Also,
> Brazil recently hosted 
> a pre-meeting of Latin American, Caribbean and
> Iberic countries 
> (Andorra, Portugal and Spain) Ministers of Culture
> (or similar, 
> depending on the taxonomy adopted by different
> parties), attended by 
> different countries government officials, that
> happened to be ICOM 
> members of these countries. The seminar resulted in
> the proposal of 
> declaring 2008 the Iberic Year of Museums, to be
> officially announced 
> by the Presidents or Prime Ministers in their next
> reunion in 
> November, under the auspices of OEI (Ibero-American
> States 
> Organization).
> The move from RO to RA should helps us to pursue the
> strategic 
> objectives for 2008-2010, in special numbers 1 and
> 2.
> 
> Carlos Roberto F. Brandão
> 
> Presidente ICOM-BR
> (2006-2009)(http://www.icom.org.br/)
> fone/fax: 55-11-22732086
> Museu de Zoologia da USP (http://www.mz.usp.br)
> Av. Nazaré 481
> São Paulo SP, Brasil 04263-000
> fone: 55-11-61658138, 61600222
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> Citando Inkyung Chang :
> 
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > Within ICOM-ASPAC the member countries do not have
> any confusion about where
> > to belong. Only concerns are Pacific region is not
> well represented in
> > ASPAC, since there are very few national
> committees from that specific
> > area. Nevertherless, PIMA is very active and it
> is an affiliated
> > organization in ICOM. I understand ICOM-Russia do
> not join the activities
> > in ASPAC which should be respected as indicated in
> the model rule of RO.
> > And also if we follow the definition of the
> regions of UNESCO(if I remember
> > correctly) USA belongs to Europe even though it is
> located at the
> > north-eastern part of the Pacific.
> >
> > Since RO has been already changed to Regional
> Alliences, we can focus more
> > on collaboration with specific goals within the
> region(or sub-regions if
> > needed) than deviding fine lines between the
> States based on geographical
> > boundaries.
> > As Prof. Boylan mentioned that these boundaries
> are not only based on
> > geographical areas, but also on cultural and
> historical contexts.
> >
> >
> > Inkyung Chang
> > Chairperson/ICOM-ASPAC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/7/07, Perkko Mariliina
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear colleagues,
> >>
> >> I'm for one and only ICOM Europe and no other
> organizations in this small
> >> area with many members. We should stand together.
> >>
> >> Mariliina Perkko
> >> former Chair of the ICOM Costume Committee
> >> member still
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> >> Lähettäjä: International Council of Museums
> Discussion List [mailto:
> >> [log in to unmask]] Puolesta Patrick
> Boylan
> >> Lähetetty: 5. syyskuuta 2007 21:26
> >> Vastaanottaja: [log in to unmask]
> >> Aihe: Re: ICOM Regionalisation
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Mario, and subsequent contributors to this
> discussion,
> >>
> >> There are many different and often overlapping
> regional groupings around
> >> the worlds, not least in Europe and adjacent
> areas.
> >>
> >> The European Union has a very effective
> Mediterranean Heritage programme,
> >> but this itself overlaps with its ROSTE programme
> for south-eastern Europe
> >> excluding Greece, Turkey and Cyprus - i.e. mainly
> the Balkan states),
> >> which is run out of the EU's Venice office. (I'm
> on the advisory boards
> >> for both.)
> >>
> >> An ICOM Mediterranean would also overlap with
> ICOM Arab, which broadly
> >> covers MENA Region (= Middle East and North
> Africa) of the United Nations
> >> and the World Bank. However, ICOM Arab in turn
> overlaps with both
> >> ICOM-ASPAC and AFRICOM! There have also been
> debates for many years about
> >> the exact limits of ICOM-ASPAC, since both Russia
> and the USA are very
> >> obviously Pacific countries - as at today's
> summit in Sydney.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the biggest question mark - and main
> debate - ought be over the
> >> idea of ICOM Europe? Is it realistic to have a
> Regional Organisation (now
> >> "Alliance") which aims to cover the interests of
> almost three-quarters of
> >> all current ICOM members, or should there be a
> move towards some rational
> >> subdivision of Europe on geographical (or perhaps
> even on cultural or
> >> language) lines?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrick Boylan
> >>
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