Dear ICOM Members,
The Youth Group discussion I have found to be very interesting.
I would like to offer a suggestion;
Make the term Young Professionals into Young Museum Professionals. This
would not infringe on any age sensitive issues ;-)
Someone who joins the Museum Profession at a later age is still a Young
Museum Professional (YMP). Maybe, membership to the YMP group can be
limited, to 5 years or so. This way the YMP group doesn't become too grey
and it will, hopefully, be a great resource of fresh ideas for ICOM.
Just a thought,
Roeland
Roeland Stulemeijer
Art Care
Conservation and Collection Specialist
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From: "Naomi Grattan" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Youth Groups etc
> Hello!
>
> I have been reading this discussion with much interest, for three reasons.
> First, I am one of those 'young professionals' -- I'm 28 and work for the
> Cdn Museums Association as editor of our publication MUSE and am
> responsible
> for much of our communications. Second, it seemed to me (though apologies
> if
> I'm wrong on this) that there weren't any of 'us' involved in this
> discussion. And third, there are a number of 'us' in our offices, and we
> have been discussing getting some sort of young professionals committee up
> and running for Canada. A lot of our initial discussion has centred around
> the issue of defining what qualifies as a 'young professional' and we
> struggled with all the same issues that have come up here.
>
> Our conclusion was that 'young professional' was a good place to start
> (and
> Claudia Polley nicely clarified the distinction between this and student
> in
> her post). However, in the end, we felt it was better to move to 'new
> professionals' to include those coming into the field who have many of the
> same issues that us 'young professionals' face. We also felt that it
> wasn't
> constructive to bother with defining an age range.
>
> Just thought you'd be interested to know how a group of 'us' feels about
> this in Canada. So what next? How do we move this forward?
>
> Naomi
>
>
>
> Naomi Grattan
> Director of Communications/Directrice des communications
> Canadian Museums Association/Association des musees canadiens
> Tel./Tel.: (613) 567-0099 x223; Fax/Telec.: (613) 233-5438
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: International Council of Museums Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Claudia Polley
> Sent: August 10, 2005 9:19 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Youth Groups etc
>
>
>
> All,
>
> So many good ideas are voiced here it's daunting to add anything.
> However,
> I think a critical clarification should be made. In Mario's initial
> email
> he
> refers to young people as "youth", which then was re-interpreted by
> several
> respondents as "students". And then a couple of wiser heads used the
> term
> "young professionals". I believe we must have some good definition of
> this
> group we all know ICOM is leaving out of its communications and activity
> loop.
> To my way of thinking "young professionals" is the intent if not the
> exact
> description necessary.
>
> Perhaps wiser heads with a greater grasp of language could assist here.
> We
> are not talking about student involvement for the most part here...that
> is
> already addressed by many national committees whether well done or not.
> We
> need to act to have our younger colleagues become excited and involved in
> this
> organization that purports to serve the world. As Per Rekdal says, those
> active in ICOM are greying a bit (if not a lot like myself), and our
> future
> depends on those who will actively shape this organization for today and
> the
> future...not the past.
>
> So, let's get on with it. The technology exists where we all talk to one
> another via Skype and other internet-based communications. Visual and
> audio
> links are easy to be had. And information is the key here, as Ms.
> Cockett
> so
> rightfully points out. Even some of us elders want more direct
> information
> and involvement. Why not find a way to make it so?
>
> It's time.
>
> Claudia Polley
> Arts Associates LLC
> Washington DC & Caino, Italy
>
>
> In a message dated 8/10/2005 9:04:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've only recently joined this list, I joined ICOM/ICOM-UK last year and
> have some thoughts regarding this issue. I feel the main issues (for me
> at
> least) has been around poor communication/marketing of ICOM itself and
> its
> events. I haven't been to any ICOM events even though I am an active
> member
> of a number of UK-based museums organisations, and my workplace will
> support national travel to events (though rarely international).
>
> I joined two committees when I signed up to ICOM but no-one has ever
> communicated to me what I need to do to be active on them.
>
> I think that the ICOM magazines are visually quite dull, mainly black and
> white (maybe with a single colour), the ICOM news has an incredibly small
> typeface making it difficult to read (I have no visual impairment). There
> are no other mailings or extra information included with them. They do
> not
> make me want to read them.
>
> I just looked through my last ICOM-UK magazine and there is nothing about
> up-and-coming events. Details of the meetings listed in ICOM news are
> very
> brief, just the title/theme but no further information - obviously we can
> email to find out but the communication is bad as nothing grabs you and
> makes you think 'oh, that sounds interesting' etc.
>
> The websites of ICOM and ICOM-UK are not up to the visual quality or
> intuitive accessible structure of other organisations - the new ICOM
> website does look like it might be a very significant improvement
> visually
> and structurally this may help. The events page of ICOM-UK currently
> lists
> events from 2003, the calendar page of ICOM does not make it immediately
> clear what each event.
>
> I use the websites/magazines of a number of Museum organisations
> regularly
> to find out all sorts of information. I think the main issue is that when
> compared to other organisations (in the UK - Museums Association, Museum
> Documentation Association, Regional MLA's etc...) ICOM simply does not
> compete well in the fields of communication or marketing. I always seem
> to
> know, with minimal effort what the UK organisations are up to (via
> emails,
> websites, publications sent to me at home, and to my workplace) and I
> have
> gone to meetings, taken part in panels/committees etc. I feel I learn
> more
> about what is going on internationally in museums from UK Museums
> publications and UK newspapers.
>
> I also wonder about your definition of 'youth' as under 40? I'm 30 and I
> don't think I am young any more, certainly too old to join anything
> labelled 'youth-organisation'. To me (and marketing organisations) the
> youth age group is 16-25.
>
> Aside from the free entry to every museum I have tried using it in - a
> very
> considerable benefit I admit - I have felt that ICOM has not added
> anything
> to my knowledge of museums/ the museum world. I hope this can change.
>
> Rachel Cockett
> Birmingham, UK
>
>
>
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