*Dear colleagues,*
*I have some comments to make and questions to ask :*
*1. **If we consider the definition of the term
"Alliance", this means that if you want to be member of an « Alliance » you
have to ask for it, and fulfil a paper and wait for a reply. It's important
to be sure about the willing of each member :NC. Within my experience in
Arab ICOM, NC were satisfied to know they were "de facto" member of the RO
and they were enthusiastic to collaborate in all projects. Sometimes people
hesitate or forget to make the request to be in a RO. *
*2. **Considering the meaning of the term
"Alliance", how will be the way (criteria) to choose your "allié". Can I as
an African or Arabian NC, ask to be member of the "Latin America Alliance or
the Europe one" ? if yes : why ? and if now : why ? Are there criteria to
accept or refuse NC in an "alliance"? And can we change from an RA to
another one depending off the themes or activities or … ?*
*3. **The past RO respected the division of the UN
and UNESCO and for Arab countries ALECSO, and other Arab organizations. When
I (ICOM Arab) ask for financial support from these organizations, I have to
ask it in the framework of their own structure and divisions (which are as
our RO were), do you think it'll not be difficult to make the same request
if we don't respect the same structures of these organisations ? It's just a
question ?*
*4. **By our experience within ICOM Europe, as Arab
ICOM we did a very good job, and I think that dividing these areas in
another way will not be for benefit to our activities. *
*5. **All around people are creating Unions, to
have more opportunity and facility to work and to be actively present. Why
are we dividing our RO in little pieces. What is the problem if ICOM Europe
has so many members ? I think they have more possibilities than divided in
numerous "alliances". Are we going à "contre courant "asking to be
minorities.*
* *
*It seems to me that Gary was at the origin of this new idea (or not ?) but
I did not notice his comments through the discussions*
*I know I missed many of the discussion and decision especially because I
did not attend the GA in Vienna, so please try to be indulgent and give me a
clear definition about the "Alliances" and it's new rules. *
*Best regards*
*Chedlia Annabi*
2008/4/23, Per Bjorn Rekdal <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> Dear Ieteke and colleagues,
>
> The Work Group of Regional Alliances and affiliated regional organisations
> will meet on Tuesday June 3 from 14.00 (2 pm) to 18.00 (6 pm). At this
> meeting, the consequences of the new definition of Regional Alliances will
> be one of the items on the agenda.
>
> The special question you rise, Ieteke, is interesting and not a detail, and
> certainly one of the questions that would be relevant to discuss within the
> Work Group on Regional Alliances and regional affiliated organisations.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Per
>
> Per B. Rekdal
> Member of the Executive,
> Chair, Work Group on Regional Alliances
> and regional affiliated organisations
>
>
> On 20.04.2008 23:02, ieteke witteveen wrote:
>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Can you please inform me if there any conclusion on below discussion on RO
>> or RA and its consequences?
>>
>> For MAC as Caribbean regional museum association we have the need to work
>> together through language and political barriers, as we still have to
>> overcome a common history of 500 years of colonial control and pieces
>> broken
>> off from the original context. The colonial heritage is even reflected in
>> the ICOM: Caribbean ICOM members of non independent countries of the
>> British, Dutch,
>> French, VS Caribbean are 'dependent' of their ICOM 'mother' countries.
>> It seems a detail, but it is a hindrance for shared regional action for
>> empowering our communities with an enriched, real and cultural diverse
>> Caribbean memory.
>> This situation will be discussed in a special meeting on June 3rd, 2008
>> during ICOM- Advisory Committee.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: International Council of Museums Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Damdin Tsedmaa
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:50 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: VS: ICOM Regionalisation
>>
>> Dear Colleagues, I think regional organisation has more
>> benefit for museus. We have
>> experenced emplementing the project by Samp. I'm agree with you. It is
>> more
>> easy to collabrate other museums. D. Tsedmaa
>> Mongolia
>> Violata Ekpo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Do we need to over-emphasize regions and regional
>> organizations?
>> I think that result-oriented project-based
>> associations would be much more productive that
>> regional ones.
>> Samp is an excellent example of cross-boundary
>> international museum collaboration based on specific
>> projects, which can be used by ICOM. Why create more
>> overlapping regional sub-divisions in stead of
>> project-based international collaborations, which
>> would ensure better utilization of the funding.
>>
>> I would like to see more financial allocations to
>> collaborative inter-museum or inter-national
>> committees projects.
>>
>> Violeta Ekpo --- Carlos Roberto Ferreira Brandao wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear colleagues
>>> If I understood right, the change from RO to RA
>>> enables committees to promote easier integration beyond the UNESCO
>>> official regions constraints, so perhaps the word Regional is the
>>> problem.
>>> For instance, following an idea born in Paris 2006
>>> Advisory Committee Meeting, the Portuguese speaking national committees
>>> met in Vienna and discussed future collaboration, starting with a
>>> consensual version of the Code of Ethics, but foreseeing a more dynamic
>>> and productive interaction. We considered the fact that East Timor,
>>> Mozambique and St. Tomé and Prince do not have ICOM national
>>> committees and that our recent efforts to contact ICOM Angola failed. In
>>> addition, there are thriving Portuguese speaking communities in
>>> different countries and we may enhance information and expertise sharing,
>>> and
>>> even exhibition exchanges among these communities if we join forces,
>>> perhaps in an institutional way.
>>> We are not proposing a RA now, nor I have the
>>> mandate to this, but we could in the future. This does not prevent
>>> ICOM-BR
>>> from being an active member of ICOM LAC and/or to develop other
>>> partnerships. In fact, we had a very nice meeting of Latin American
>>> and Caribbean ICOM national committees with ICOM US and ICOM Canada,
>>> although this was a very initial, though interesting contact. Also,
>>> Brazil recently hosted a pre-meeting of Latin American, Caribbean and
>>> Iberic countries (Andorra, Portugal and Spain) Ministers of Culture
>>> (or similar, depending on the taxonomy adopted by different
>>> parties), attended by different countries government officials, that
>>> happened to be ICOM members of these countries. The seminar resulted in
>>> the proposal of declaring 2008 the Iberic Year of Museums, to be
>>> officially announced by the Presidents or Prime Ministers in their next
>>> reunion in November, under the auspices of OEI (Ibero-American
>>> States Organization).
>>> The move from RO to RA should helps us to pursue the
>>> strategic objectives for 2008-2010, in special numbers 1 and
>>> 2.
>>>
>>> Carlos Roberto F. Brandão
>>>
>>> Presidente ICOM-BR
>>> (2006-2009)(http://www.icom.org.br/)
>>> fone/fax: 55-11-22732086
>>> Museu de Zoologia da USP (http://www.mz.usp.br)
>>> Av. Nazaré 481
>>> São Paulo SP, Brasil 04263-000
>>> fone: 55-11-61658138, 61600222
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>> Citando Inkyung Chang :
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Within ICOM-ASPAC the member countries do not have
>>>>
>>>
>>> any confusion about where
>>>
>>> to belong. Only concerns are Pacific region is not
>>>>
>>>
>>> well represented in
>>>
>>> ASPAC, since there are very few national
>>>>
>>>
>>> committees from that specific
>>>
>>> area. Nevertherless, PIMA is very active and it
>>>>
>>>
>>> is an affiliated
>>>
>>> organization in ICOM. I understand ICOM-Russia do
>>>>
>>>
>>> not join the activities
>>>
>>> in ASPAC which should be respected as indicated in
>>>>
>>>
>>> the model rule of RO.
>>>
>>> And also if we follow the definition of the
>>>>
>>>
>>> regions of UNESCO(if I remember
>>>
>>> correctly) USA belongs to Europe even though it is
>>>>
>>>
>>> located at the
>>>
>>> north-eastern part of the Pacific.
>>>>
>>>> Since RO has been already changed to Regional
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alliences, we can focus more
>>>
>>> on collaboration with specific goals within the
>>>>
>>>
>>> region(or sub-regions if
>>>
>>> needed) than deviding fine lines between the
>>>>
>>>
>>> States based on geographical
>>>
>>> boundaries.
>>>> As Prof. Boylan mentioned that these boundaries
>>>>
>>>
>>> are not only based on
>>>
>>> geographical areas, but also on cultural and
>>>>
>>>
>>> historical contexts.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Inkyung Chang
>>>> Chairperson/ICOM-ASPAC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/7/07, Perkko Mariliina
>>>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm for one and only ICOM Europe and no other
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> organizations in this small
>>>
>>> area with many members. We should stand together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariliina Perkko
>>>>> former Chair of the ICOM Costume Committee
>>>>> member still
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>> Lähettäjä: International Council of Museums
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Discussion List [mailto:
>>>
>>> [log in to unmask]] Puolesta Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Boylan
>>>
>>> Lähetetty: 5. syyskuuta 2007 21:26
>>>>> Vastaanottaja: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Aihe: Re: ICOM Regionalisation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mario, and subsequent contributors to this
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> discussion,
>>>
>>> There are many different and often overlapping
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> regional groupings around
>>>
>>> the worlds, not least in Europe and adjacent
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> areas.
>>>
>>> The European Union has a very effective
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Mediterranean Heritage programme,
>>>
>>> but this itself overlaps with its ROSTE programme
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> for south-eastern Europe
>>>
>>> excluding Greece, Turkey and Cyprus - i.e. mainly
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> the Balkan states),
>>>
>>> which is run out of the EU's Venice office. (I'm
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> on the advisory boards
>>>
>>> for both.)
>>>>>
>>>>> An ICOM Mediterranean would also overlap with
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> ICOM Arab, which broadly
>>>
>>> covers MENA Region (= Middle East and North
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Africa) of the United Nations
>>>
>>> and the World Bank. However, ICOM Arab in turn
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> overlaps with both
>>>
>>> ICOM-ASPAC and AFRICOM! There have also been
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> debates for many years about
>>>
>>> the exact limits of ICOM-ASPAC, since both Russia
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> and the USA are very
>>>
>>> obviously Pacific countries - as at today's
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> summit in Sydney.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the biggest question mark - and main
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> debate - ought be over the
>>>
>>> idea of ICOM Europe? Is it realistic to have a
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Regional Organisation (now
>>>
>>> "Alliance") which aims to cover the interests of
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> almost three-quarters of
>>>
>>> all current ICOM members, or should there be a
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> move towards some rational
>>>
>>> subdivision of Europe on geographical (or perhaps
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> even on cultural or
>>>
>>> language) lines?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick Boylan
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